Proposal: CGY-BUF

[Rowley Birkin]

You may but in reality, there is really not much difference between Reinhart and Monahan

neither has capability to help their current club and have similar production

Note, I am not saying Buffalo should do the deal. Just value

I agree that Monahan / Reinhart have similar value in a vacuum.

The thing is - if we're trading Reinhart it is very likely for the following reasons:

- we are extending Hall & cannot also fit Reinhart in to the long term cap landscape

- we are hitting the reset button & building around a 'new' core of Dahlin/Cozens/Quinn etc.

Monahan is neither younger or much cheaper than an extended Reinhart.

 

[DFF]

I agree that Monahan / Reinhart have similar value in a vacuum.

The thing is - if we're trading Reinhart it is very likely for the following reasons:

- we are extending Hall & cannot also fit Reinhart in to the long term cap landscape

- we are hitting the reset button & building around a 'new' core of Dahlin/Cozens/Quinn etc.

Monahan is neither younger or much cheaper than an extended Reinhart.

No problem. I agreed

 

[RasmusAndersson]

Mittlestadt is the last Sabre I want on this team. Especially in a swap for Bennett.

Really? I do see some upside in his game. I could see him thriving in a different system but fair he isn't my first choice either

 

[DJN21]

Fair, we couldn't trade our first this year cause it very well could be a top-10 pick but would u do Monahan+2nd for Reinhart+Middlestat

no sorry. Getting Bennett's energy on the team is more important to me if I'm building the future sabres roster. I think Sam has more value than Monahan but that value is offset by the center vs wing debate.

 

[RasmusAndersson]

I agree that Monahan / Reinhart have similar value in a vacuum.

The thing is - if we're trading Reinhart it is very likely for the following reasons:

- we are extending Hall & cannot also fit Reinhart in to the long term cap landscape

- we are hitting the reset button & building around a 'new' core of Dahlin/Cozens/Quinn etc.

Monahan is neither younger or much cheaper than an extended Reinhart.

I mean I feel like the purpose of this trade is for the reset button and keeping Eichel. Build around Eichel/Dahlin/Cozens and you guys are stuck with Skinner is what I would do. Trade Hall at the deadline for some good futures and depth pieces and get Monahan and Bennett to be 2C and 3C behind until Cozens is ready and then look for wingers and dmen. I really don't think it's that crazy if Buffalo continues to struggle. Who else is gonna bring back prime top-6 forward and another top-9 forward other than moving your 1st or Eichel?

 

[RasmusAndersson]

no sorry. Getting Bennett's energy on the team is more important to me if I'm building the future sabres roster. I think Sam has more value than Monahan but that value is offset by the center vs wing debate.

Thats fair. Monahan and Bennett for Reinhart and Middlestat?

 

[Rowley Birkin]

I mean I feel like the purpose of this trade is for the reset button and keeping Eichel. Build around Eichel/Dahlin/Cozens and you guys are stuck with Skinner is what I would do. Trade Hall at the deadline for some good futures and depth pieces and get Monahan and Bennett to be 2C and 3C behind until Cozens is ready and then look for wingers and dmen. I really don't think it's that crazy if Buffalo continues to struggle. Who else is gonna bring back prime top-6 forward and another top-9 forward other than moving your 1st or Eichel?

If we are trading Hall then it is a no brainer for us to extend Reinhart & make him part of that core. There is enough cap room even with Skinner. Just not enough room for BOTH Hall & Reinhart.

 

[DJN21]

Thats fair. Monahan and Bennett for Reinhart and Middlestat?

I'd still want a 2nd going my way but at the end of the day it's not a bad offer at all. It's one of those I dont wanna do it but should moves. the reason I ask for the pick is because Mitts might unleash his potential and make this trade lopsided whereas Bennett is likely the guy he is at this point (which is a player I like but he's a 3rd liner lets be honest)

 

[RasmusAndersson]

If we are trading Hall then it is a no brainer for us to extend Reinhart & make him part of that core. There is enough cap room even with Skinner. Just not enough room for BOTH Hall & Reinhart.

I feel like Reinhart is not gonna wanna sign long-term in Buffalo this off-season based on everything going on with the team honestly. I guess I could be wrong but I definitely don't see him taking a discount either, very unlikely you're going to get him at anything under like 7.5 if he even agrees to a long-term deal. And then you can't make additions anywhere else

 

[RasmusAndersson]

I'd still want a 2nd going my way but at the end of the day it's not a bad offer at all. It's one of those I dont wanna do it but should moves. the reason I ask for the pick is because Mitts might unleash his potential and make this trade lopsided whereas Bennett is likely the guy he is at this point (which is a player I like but he's a 3rd liner lets be honest)

Ya thats fair I would probably do a 3rd. Don't think I could do a 2nd with the expansion draft and knowing we're likely gonna have to expose Bennett/Middlestat anyway

 

[Rowley Birkin]

I feel like Reinhart is not gonna wanna sign long-term in Buffalo this off-season based on everything going on with the team honestly. I guess I could be wrong but I definitely don't see him taking a discount either, very unlikely you're going to get him at anything under like 7.5 if he even agrees to a long-term deal. And then you can't make additions anywhere else

Your projection of 7.5m/per is about where i am at. So adding Monahan doesn't really save a lot.

Cozens looks like the real deal. We arent as desperate for a future 2C as we probably were a year ago.

 

[RasmusAndersson]

Your projection of 7.5m/per is about where i am at. So adding Monahan doesn't really save a lot.

Cozens looks like the real deal. We arent as desperate for a future 2C as we probably were a year ago.

Fair I like Reinhart a lot I prob wouldn't trade him for Monahan if I was you either

 

[DJN21]

Ya thats fair I would probably do a 3rd. Don't think I could do a 2nd with the expansion draft and knowing we're likely gonna have to expose Bennett/Middlestat anyway

damn expansion draft! As i wear my Kraken hat lol. Cheers for the good talk, we are close! Maybe our GM's make one of us look dumb anyways....

 

[Sparky93]

There's really only 3-4 possible reasons that Buffalo would consider moving Reinhart, one of their few bright spots.
1) They feel this is his peak value and don't consider him a core piece moving forward.
2) He wants out and will not sign longterm
3) They're gearing up for a full scale rebuild, moving lesser players before a huge Eichel trade in the offseason
4) They've decided to give Hall his money, in which case you have to continue to question the Sabres management.