Proposal: CAR/VAN

[canucksfan100]

TO VAN
Dougie Hamilton
Brock McGinn
3rd Round Pick
Conditional 1St Round Pick(If Car Wins CUP or Hamilton doesnt resign)

TO CAR
JT Miller
Tanner Pearson / Brandon Sutter (2M Retained)
Olli Juolevi

Canucks get their top 4 defenseman to play alongside Quinn Hughes, while Carolina adds a young defenseman that they dont have to protect In the expansion draft, a top 6forward to play alongside Trocheck and another depth scorer for their playoff run.

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[north49er]

Yikes....

 

[Jerkbait]

TO VAN
Dougie Hamilton
Brock McGinn
3rd Round Pick
Conditional 1St Round Pick(If Car Wins CUP or Hamilton doesnt resign)

TO CAR
JT Miller
Tanner Pearson / Brandon Sutter (2M Retained)
Olli Juolevi

Canucks get their top 4 defenseman to play alongside Quinn Hughes, while Carolina adds a young defenseman that they dont have to protect In the expansion draft, a top 6forward to play alongside Trocheck and another depth scorer for their playoff run.

Why would Carolina do this ?

 

[Diamonddog01]

Yuck. Hard pass from this Vancouver fan.

 

[spockBokk]

Why does CAR consider this at all? They significantly weaken their team and give up a 1st (even though the OP doesn’t know picks conditional on player signings are no longer allowed, it’s in the trade) for JT Miller and scraps.

 

[dellzor]

if hamilton extends yes

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I thought you couldn’t do conditional picks based on if a player signs or not anymore.

 

[YP44]

just awful for Carolina

 

[zar]

TO VAN
Dougie Hamilton
Brock McGinn
3rd Round Pick
Conditional 1St Round Pick(If Car Wins CUP or Hamilton doesnt resign)

TO CAR
JT Miller
Tanner Pearson / Brandon Sutter (2M Retained)
Olli Juolevi

Canucks get their top 4 defenseman to play alongside Quinn Hughes, while Carolina adds a young defenseman that they dont have to protect In the expansion draft, a top 6forward to play alongside Trocheck and another depth scorer for their playoff run.

Canucks Fan 100... how appropriate of a username?!

Brutal for the Canes and Juolevi does have to be protected, based on CapFriendly

 

[Mal Reynolds]

This is change for the sake of change for the Hurricanes, they could add scoring for the playoff run without giving up one of their better D. Just doesn't make much sense, although I'm sure Miller at his contract would be an appealing asset

Not sure it makes much sense for the Canucks either. Who plays in the top 6 then? I mean, I get the rationale behind getting a partner for Hughes (is Hamilton really the right complement though?) and selling high on Miller. In the case of the latter, sure it makes some sense to get value for a guy who might not be there when your window *truly* opens.... but there's also already been rumors of the departures of Markstrom & Tanev in particular causing a depletion of morale in the room, and now you sell off a quality first liner? I don't know, it just seems like a bit of a risky move when you can probably recoup similar assets for Miller down the road, should you elect not to keep him beyond his current contract

Oh, and Juolevi isn't exempt

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Terrible for Carolina.

Juolevi not needed.
Pearson/Sutter def not needed.
Giving up a 3rd or 1st to go from Dougie to JT Miller is quite the honour though...

 

[innitfam]

The deal is OK for Vancouver I guess (arguable) but the uncertainty with Hamilton going to UFA makes this untenable.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

The deal is OK for Vancouver I guess (arguable) but the uncertainty with Hamilton going to UFA makes this untenable.

Well Canes fans can tell you it’s terrible for us so take that for what you will.

I will say, it doesn’t really make sense for Vancouver though. It’s pretty unlikely Van makes the playoffs or make any noise this year so why trade for a pending UFA in Dougie as the main piece?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Why does CAR consider this at all? They significantly weaken their team and give up a 1st (even though the OP doesn’t know picks conditional on player signings are no longer allowed, it’s in the trade) for JT Miller and scraps.

They don't.

 

[innitfam]

Well Canes fans can tell you it’s terrible for us so take that for what you will.

I will say, it doesn’t really make sense for Vancouver though. It’s pretty unlikely Van makes the playoffs or make any noise this year so why trade for a pending UFA in Dougie as the main piece?

Yeah, I agree. If Hamilton was extended I could see the rationale.

For Canes fans, yeah it's not a good deal for them. Pearson would be nice for you guys for a playoff run though IMO, maybe in a different deal.

 

[M2Beezy]

Id do OPs proposal IF Hamilton signs a contract with us and that 3rd becomes a 2nd and make the stipelations on the conditional 1st just a straight up 1st for us of course lol

 

[elitepete]

TO VAN
Dougie Hamilton
Brock McGinn
3rd Round Pick
Conditional 1St Round Pick(If Car Wins CUP or Hamilton doesnt resign)

TO CAR
JT Miller
Tanner Pearson / Brandon Sutter (2M Retained)
Olli Juolevi

Canucks get their top 4 defenseman to play alongside Quinn Hughes, while Carolina adds a young defenseman that they dont have to protect In the expansion draft, a top 6forward to play alongside Trocheck and another depth scorer for their playoff run.

I wouldn't do it without the first being guaranteed, but Carolina likely doesn't do it no matter what. Is this accurate Canes fans?

Why not simplify it to Pearson for 2nd or Miller for 1st+something significant

 

[elitepete]

Well Canes fans can tell you it’s terrible for us so take that for what you will.

I will say, it doesn’t really make sense for Vancouver though. It’s pretty unlikely Van makes the playoffs or make any noise this year so why trade for a pending UFA in Dougie as the main piece?

Yup. Bad for both teams.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Yeah, I agree. If Hamilton was extended I could see the rationale.

For Canes fans, yeah it's not a good deal for them. Pearson would be nice for you guys for a playoff run though IMO, maybe in a different deal.

If we’re adding another forward it’s gonna be more of an impact variety. Not saying Pearson is bad but we’ve got depth. To put us over the edge we need to go more big game hunting.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Id do OPs proposal IF Hamilton signs a contract with us and that 3rd becomes a 2nd and make the stipelations on the conditional 1st just a straight up 1st for us of course lol

If Hamilton’s extended then he’s not getting traded so there’s that as well

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

How about this

Foegele
Bean
Prospect

for
Boeser
Benn @ 50 %

no? Of course not.

 

[innitfam]

If we’re adding another forward it’s gonna be more of an impact variety. Not saying Pearson is bad but we’ve got depth. To put us over the edge we need to go more big game hunting.

Well, best of luck with that, might be tough. Always had a soft spot for the Canes, hopefully you guys do well.

Hall would like nice fleshing out the top 6

 

[M2Beezy]

How about this

Foegele
Bean
Prospect

for
Boeser
Benn @ 50 %

no? Of course not.

Thats not bad. Just take out Boeser and replace him with Virtanen in that deal and Id do that for sure

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Thats not bad. Just take out Boeser and replace him with Virtanen in that deal and Id do that for sure

Lol. Virtanen doesn’t even have Bean’s value at this point. Not the point of my post though

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Well, best of luck with that, might be tough. Always had a soft spot for the Canes, hopefully you guys do well.

Hall would like nice fleshing out the top 6

Yeah, he’s been discussed on our board but we’ll see. If TT comes back and is playing like his usual self we have a pretty deep forward core especially with Trochek, Staal, and Necas playing so well.