Post-Game Talk: CAPTAIN MORGAN!!! | LEAFS WIN 4-3 IN OVERTIME

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@Mess isn't wrong. Leafs were quite significantly outplayed and probably should been down by 2. Three games down and leafs have been outplayed 2-0 and overall Samsonov has looked shaky. Fine to enjoy it... But memories are short. Go back to the gdt with 5 minutes remaining in the game and see what posters were saying about this team.
 
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In Game 3, Steven Stamkos went after Auston Matthews when Matthews was picking up stray sticks following the Point injury. Keefe said Tampa was manipulating the referees because since Nikita Kucherov was already getting a penalty for attacking Rielly, every other fracas would result in evenly applied penalties. So, Stamkos attacked his fellow No. 1 pick, which would take Matthews off the Toronto power play, along with Ryan O’Reilly, who wound up fighting Kucherov. Strategy.

“The fight itself, it’s a classic example of a veteran championship team like Tampa Bay manipulating the officials and taking advantage of a situation,” said Keefe, biting off his words as he went. “Brilliant play by the Lightning there in manipulating that situation.”

The Toronto organization? There has been an undercurrent of resentment about how often their goaltender, Ilya Samsonov, has spoken to reporters compared to his Lightning counterpart, Andrei Vasilevskiy.
It doesn’t seem to matter that Samsonov seems unbothered by media duties, while Vasilevskiy has never enjoyed them. So, despite Samsonov’s game-saving brilliance in Game 3, the organization refused to make him available to the media either immediately after Game 3 or on Sunday’s off day. Asked about it, Keefe repeated something that has been a quiet organizational drumbeat all series: “Have you been talking Vasilevskiy at all in the series? Let (Samsonov) play goal.”

Team president Brendan Shanahan hasn’t shown up to reprise the fighting days of his NHL career, but there’s still time. It all adds up to a picture of a franchise that is in a hell of a battle for the second straight year, under terrific pressure, and is responding with some eff-you aggression. So, Cooper and Keefe are litigating through the media and the GM is showing some fire, and the organization is buttoning up. And this is with a team that leads the series two games to one.

And really, it’s not that the Leafs are wrong. On Sunday, Cooper said, “Manipulated the referees? I’m not sure what that means,” and argued the Lightning figured Rielly would get a boarding major. To which Keefe would surely respond that no boarding major had been called on Rielly, but a two-minute penalty was coming to Kucherov when Stamkos, son of Toronto and Tampa’s captain, just starting whaling away on Matthews, who had never been in a fight at any level of hockey. (Rielly was briefly given a five-minute major after the fights, which was then reversed.)

It sure looked like the Lightning recognized that taking Toronto’s best goal scorer off the ice for five minutes in the third period of a game the Lightning led 3-2 was good strategy. This wasn’t Tampa’s first playoff game, you know?

“Everyone was there and, listen, it is what it is,” said Stamkos, who claimed it was only about standing up for a teammate. “It’s nothing personal.”
 
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In Game 3, Steven Stamkos went after Auston Matthews when Matthews was picking up stray sticks following the Point injury. Keefe said Tampa was manipulating the referees because since Nikita Kucherov was already getting a penalty for attacking Rielly, every other fracas would result in evenly applied penalties. So, Stamkos attacked his fellow No. 1 pick, which would take Matthews off the Toronto power play, along with Ryan O’Reilly, who wound up fighting Kucherov. Strategy.

“The fight itself, it’s a classic example of a veteran championship team like Tampa Bay manipulating the officials and taking advantage of a situation,” said Keefe, biting off his words as he went. “Brilliant play by the Lightning there in manipulating that situation.”

The Toronto organization? There has been an undercurrent of resentment about how often their goaltender, Ilya Samsonov, has spoken to reporters compared to his Lightning counterpart, Andrei Vasilevskiy.
It doesn’t seem to matter that Samsonov seems unbothered by media duties, while Vasilevskiy has never enjoyed them. So, despite Samsonov’s game-saving brilliance in Game 3, the organization refused to make him available to the media either immediately after Game 3 or on Sunday’s off day. Asked about it, Keefe repeated something that has been a quiet organizational drumbeat all series: “Have you been talking Vasilevskiy at all in the series? Let (Samsonov) play goal.”

Team president Brendan Shanahan hasn’t shown up to reprise the fighting days of his NHL career, but there’s still time. It all adds up to a picture of a franchise that is in a hell of a battle for the second straight year, under terrific pressure, and is responding with some eff-you aggression. So, Cooper and Keefe are litigating through the media and the GM is showing some fire, and the organization is buttoning up. And this is with a team that leads the series two games to one.

And really, it’s not that the Leafs are wrong. On Sunday, Cooper said, “Manipulated the referees? I’m not sure what that means,” and argued the Lightning figured Rielly would get a boarding major. To which Keefe would surely respond that no boarding major had been called on Rielly, but a two-minute penalty was coming to Kucherov when Stamkos, son of Toronto and Tampa’s captain, just starting whaling away on Matthews, who had never been in a fight at any level of hockey. (Rielly was briefly given a five-minute major after the fights, which was then reversed.)

It sure looked like the Lightning recognized that taking Toronto’s best goal scorer off the ice for five minutes in the third period of a game the Lightning led 3-2 was good strategy. This wasn’t Tampa’s first playoff game, you know?

“Everyone was there and, listen, it is what it is,” said Stamkos, who claimed it was only about standing up for a teammate. “It’s nothing personal.”

That's certainly a lie from Stamkos...what teammate was he standing up for by wailing away at Matthews who was picking up sticks? He should have gotten an instigator penalty...the ref literally saw the whole thing developed and let him off the hook.
 

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Sit kerfoot. I'd prefer we used holmberg in his spot. Holmie was impressive in his time with the big club, and he's got decent size to handle the playoff grind.
 

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I believe he got the 2 for roughing in the aftermath of Point falling down, not for "boarding"
I'm not sure. If they called a 5 minute boarding which was going to be a match, then they could only reduce it to 2, not eliminate it.

Otherwise the rule was changed this year to allow other 5 minutes, eg. high sticking, to be reduced or eliminated.
 

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I'm not sure. If they called a 5 minute boarding which was going to be a match, then they could only reduce it to 2, not eliminate it.

Otherwise the rule was changed this year to allow other 5 minutes, eg. high sticking, to be reduced or eliminated.
I didn't think they could either....but they did. He didn't get a penalty for the hit.
 

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Leafs were fortunate for the quick whistle which resulted in Points and TB 4th goal not counting while the puck was still clearly loose and sitting at Sammy's pads.

Once the whistle blew if was the correct call to overrule the goal, the blowing the whistle was the mistake that cost TB the game. In fact it happened twice in the game only the other TB goal after the whistle was allowed to stand because of the continuation rule.

If this had happen to our Leafs we would be furious we got cheated by the Refs. Refs miss penalty calls all the time in games and certainly Leafs could have had more PP opportunities but Leafs didn't have any actual goals called back. Leafs were very fortunate to come away with a win as Rielly OT goal really should have only tied the game at 4-4, and of course OT wouldn't have even been possible with Leafs losing 4-3 in regulation even with ROR buzzer beating included.
And Tampa shouldn't have been allowed to dress Kucherov either.

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Barring injuries/suspensions we're past the point of playing Simmonds. You only dress him if you go down 2-0 or 3-1 in the series and need to do anything to change momentum
 

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That's certainly a lie from Stamkos...what teammate was he standing up for by wailing away at Matthews who was picking up sticks? He should have gotten an instigator penalty...the ref literally saw the whole thing developed and let him off the hook.
He was standing up for Point and the real reason for taking on Matthews was to remove him from the upcoming PP.

As a Leaf fan I was wondering why all this chaos was going on why was Matthews picking up sticks?
 
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He was standing up for Point and the real reason for taking on Matthews was to remove him from the upcoming PP.

As a Leaf fan I was wondering why all this chaos was going on why was Matthews picking up sticks?
Presumably so he could keep his nose clean and rip one past Vasi's ear on the PP
 

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He was standing up for Point and the real reason for taking on Matthews was to remove him from the upcoming PP.
As a Leaf fan I was wondering why all this chaos was going on why was Matthews picking up sticks?
He wasn't standing up for Point. Matthews hadn't done anything against Point. Kucherov had already come and drove Rielly's face into the ice by the neck in response to Rielly doing nothing and Point faking an injury. The chaos was over, and you literally answered your own question - Matthews was more valuable on the PP to score a tying goal.
 

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Rielly has been pretty good every year in the playoffs.

I never worry about him.
We need him to be the quality player he can be, EVERY GAME, not just ok, but dominate. He must be our Ray Bourque, someone the Lightning fear, not the inconsistent guy he was all year.
 
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