Pld and tkachuk are so common sense in this draft I don't know why anyone even brought up juolevis name. Benning would be a moron to pass up on the better player for a dman in this draft. I doubt any scout has a dman in the top 5. mckenzie doesnt have a dman In the top 6. And button doesn't have one in the top 8.
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If they had ended up 6th and Dubois and Tkachuk were gone, I'm sure they would definitely looked at a defenceman.
That said, I voted Dubois, but I have a sinking feeling he'll be gone and we'll end up with Tkachuk... which won't be the worst thing ever. I guess
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Hall was the better player at the time, and pretty much every scouting service agreed with it. Hall was also wildely considered the better player up until 2 years ago.
Hall over Seguin might look slightly bad in hindsight right now but it was nowhere near something that warrants such a response, Hall is a franchise winger.
This morning on Hockeycentral, Jeff Marek said that the Canucks have to take a defenseman because it is a position of need. I couldn't disagree more with that line of thinking. If you examine the Canucks number one need it is goal scoring. That means they have to take either Dubois or Tkachuk. There is no Aaron Ekblad available on defense in this years draft so drafting a skilled forward is the priority.
Great! Liked Debois in the prospect game more but Thachuk's playoff stats are insane. If Marner is a star what does that say about Thachuck who is scoring just a smidge less in his draft year compared to Marner plus one while having physical responsibilities shown by the 24 Pim's. He has raised his goals and shot totals in the playoffs as well and is 7 points up on Dvorak for second leading scorer on team in playoffs.
How does Thachuck compare to Marner as a prospect? Marner was picked 4th last year when he scored the same rate as this year. If he was a Canuck prospect that would be called stagnating or even regression. If he was in this draft would he be picked 4 th? Of course the new Leaf management does no wrong so the 4th leading scorer in the Ohl in his draft plus 1 year who is 160 pounds is bound to become a top 10 scorer in the Nhl no question, right? I haven't watched him play much so maybe he is, the second coming to Nylander but Nylander has proven more and still hasn't proven enough to be a nhl difference maker. My rant vs all things Leafs as their management gets blessed for being the worse team in the league, then winning a lottery. Also for having 11 picks starting in the late 20's in this year draft, which is suppose to drop off after the low 20's, but many here assume this will turn the Maple Leafs into the new Chicago Blackhawks. I guess if the leafs tank for long enough they will be good eventually but should they really be praise for that.
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I should note that I voted for Tkachuk for the #5 pick.
Wingers aren't usually as sought after but I just think we NEED a player like him on our team. Has a nose for the goal and has that arrogance and grit that is just so necessary to beat teams in the playoffs.
We have such a kind team right now, that is a team that loses.
Wingers aren't usually as sought after but I just think we NEED a player like him on our team. Has a nose for the goal and has that arrogance and grit that is just so necessary to beat teams in the playoffs.
We have such a kind team right now, that is a team that loses.
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Benning sounds like Dubois or Tkachuk are the guys at this point, via this mornings interview on 1040.
Ya it's such small thinking. This isn't the NFL or NBA. These kids, for the most part, won't be making the NHL for 2-3 years and likely won't be impact players for 4-5 years. So just because we need a D TODAY we should draft a lesser player to fill that need in 2-4 years??? It makes no sense. Besides, we have a decent collection of (potential) Top 4 D that are under 30 - Tanev, Hutton, and Tryamkin. We also just signed Stetcher who may have top 4 upside as well. Sure we don't have a high end 1D but none of the D in this draft project to that anyway. So does Juolevi massively change our D prospects in 2-4 years? Whereas I could see Tkachuk or Dubois making the team in 2 years and having a Horvat-like impact right away. Plus they are simply the better player (projected) so I don't understand the "fill a need" thinking at all. It just makes no sense for the NHL draft, esp when we technically have massive needs everywhere (except goal I suppose).
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If it is Tkachuk, one of the reasons we'll be happy to have him on our side is that he's probably the biggest personality in the draft. He'd be a lovable bigmouth for us, and a complete **** to the opposition.
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Dubois and Tkachuk are great rewards for this season, but not what we should have gotten.
Much better than Juolevi or Nylander though.
Much better than Juolevi or Nylander though.
Benning is a poker player.....of course he's going to say he's interested in those two players on the radio, even if he wasn't really sold on them.....still think there's a possibility the 'Nucks trade back in the draft and take the d-man they want....apparently the 'Yotes are set on Tkachuk....what would they offer to move from 7th to 5th in the draft?
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I'd either want the 37th or maybe Rieder if he's an odd man out, I really like his game.
There seems like a few tiers in this draft:
1-3
4-5
6- whatever.
While it would have really sped up the rebuild to be in the top three, it's a big plus to be in the second tier and not the third.
Hard to say which of Dubois and Tkachuk ends up as the better player, but that choice will likely be taken out of our hands unless Edmonton takes a defenseman at fourth.
Given where we were at the half way point of the season, I'd be fine getting either of Tkachuk or Dubois, with a preference for Dubois.
1-3
4-5
6- whatever.
While it would have really sped up the rebuild to be in the top three, it's a big plus to be in the second tier and not the third.
Hard to say which of Dubois and Tkachuk ends up as the better player, but that choice will likely be taken out of our hands unless Edmonton takes a defenseman at fourth.
Given where we were at the half way point of the season, I'd be fine getting either of Tkachuk or Dubois, with a preference for Dubois.
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Or Dvorak maybe.
Though I would rather have A top line forward like Tkachuck or Dubois that brings skill and physicality than this offer.
We need quality not quantity and I don't want Juolevi anyways.
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Tier 1
Matthews
Laine
Puljujarvi
Tier 2
Dubois
Tkachuk
Tier 3
Chychrun
Nylander
Juolevi
Sergachev
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