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Sbisa had the worst advanced stats here and the worst in Vegas. Also the worst in the playoffs.
Then again this is the same distraction technique certain people use to derail threads when they don't have an argument.
Confirmed with Link: (June 26th, 2018) Canucks re-sign D Derrick Pouliot to 1-year Deal ($1.1M AAV)
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Sbisa had the worst advanced stats here and the worst in Vegas. Also the worst in the playoffs.
Then again this is the same distraction technique certain people use to derail threads when they don't have an argument.
[MOD] Ive got about a hundred posts here. I dont waste much time posting here because this place is an echo chamber where people with opposing views are dog piled on and implicitly insulted by some individuals who have an inflated perception of their own intelligence (not saying you, I actually think you are one of the more decent posters even with your drama and unrealistic expectations). Out of all the major Canuck related message boards out there this is the only one where the management team and the players that they have acquired are mocked, ridiculed, and ripped apart to the extent that they are. Of course the thousands of fans on the other boards dont know the truth like the 20 or so regulars that run the asylum here.
He is a 5,6,7 guy who was put in over his head with the number of injuries the team had. You think he sucks, thats fine, I think you dont know how to assess players in terms of their role on the team in light of what the cost was to obtain the particular player.
uhhhhh, because top 4 guys come at a cost that this team can not afford? He could go down the trade route, but his (non core) roster players arent exactly the type of guys that will get you legit top 4 dmen. Up till about now he didnt have enough prospects to trade. He could go down the UFA route, but that would require a massive over payment...and - despite what some in here think - obtaining ufa players is not like picking produce at a grocery store...the other guy actually has to want to come here.
It was a great calculated risk that cost very little. He has not failed. If the top 4 stays healthy, and his role is reduced , he can be a valuable contributor. The fact that you expect 40 points and need to be pleased immediately is on you.
Let me slow this down for you because you seem to have a problem grasping the concept. For every 4th rounder you name that made an impact, i can probably name 25 that failed. It was a calculated risk to give up a 4th for a guy that was a high draft pick who still had a chance of being revived by his former coach. The chances of Pouliot panning out are higher than the 4th panning out.
My statement "if he obtains a high calibre d man" was hypothetical. But connect the dots here...all the d men you list, outside of Guddy, came at a low cost. Filler fodder while the team develops their prospects. The fact that you thought they were brought in to make a meteoric rise in the standings is on you.
[MOD] Not sure what you are talking about here, and right about now im starting to think im wasting even more time that i should not have been wasting.
You are complaining because you had the unrealistic expectation that this team could be some sort of playoff challenger by now. In 2013 this team had arguably the worst prospect pool in the NHL and was mired with horrible NT/NM contracts. They had a prima donna player - who had some value - but destroyed any leverage they had in dealing him by demanding a trade to one of two teams. If you expected something other than crap in less than 5 years thats on you.
What the hell else do you expect them to say? We are going to be horrible for the next half decade or so, but hang in there? In my mind the initial direction of this team, and subsequent announcements by the team regarding direction they were taking, was hampered by a meddling owner. He had just agreed to dedicate 14 million a year to two players. Do you really think he wanted to tear it down at that point?
JB has had a few years to build the d in the prospect pool. There were so many holes that no matter what he did the pool would be incomplete. He has acquired Juolevi, Hughes, Tryamkin( i wont mention that muffin he drafted and the traded to Chicago..that gets some people too riled up). It would have helped a bit if the glorious leader of the previous regime didnt leave him with only CRUMBS in the cupboard.
Nothing abnormal about guys picked a couple years ago needing 2-3 years to develop. I realize that you might think that you are entitled to instant gratification, but thats on you.
Really, you have to go back to 1980 to make your point. lol. Whats next 1971? My point still stands. The odds of a second rounder working out to be a Baertschi calibre player are lower than the player busting.
He has made the team better than Shinkaruk would have...you do know that Shinkaruk rides an AHL bus to work right? The coaches and management realized that Shinkaruk's cream puff AHL goals would not translate well in the NHL and they traded him for a serviceable NHL player that managed to get 19 goals. I know you expect a first liner with 60 points every trade, but you do not have normal expectations.
I hate to break this to you but this team will probably be bad for another year. while your [MOD], ill be happy knowing that we have Pettersson, Dahlen, Gaudette, Hughes, Juolevi, Brock ready to take the next steps in their career. Hell, we might even get the other Hughes brother. Ive been watching this team since the 70s and i dont recall a wave of young players like this before. But go ahead, carry on wasting your energy complaining about the Pouliots and the Gagners...lol...
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Billy Kvcmu
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Pouliot deserves some praise
He’s been decent for a little while now
Amazing how having a mobile partner (Stecher) instead of Gud can do to a defenceman.
He’s been decent for a little while now
Amazing how having a mobile partner (Stecher) instead of Gud can do to a defenceman.
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Gud is worse than Sbisa ever was. God help whatever young defenseman that gets paired with him. Hughes is probably good enough to carry him but I worry about Juolevi if he gets paired up with Gud
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We’re seeing Hutton suffering right in front of our eyes
Totally agree with this post. Pouliot a favorite whipping boy on these Boards, but you have to give credit where credit is due. He's been solid so far this year. Looks a bit quicker and is superb at headmanning the puck. Also looks stronger in his own zone. He could easily slide backward I suppose, but so far so good.
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Well at this salary it's ok if he has ups and downs. He just can't suck continually like he did last season.
Why the hell would anyone try to separate passing and vision. In order to be a good passer you need to have good vision. Yikes.
He’ll get a new contract if he continues on like this. He’s our best offensive dman and he’s improving defensively.
Maybe they should try Pouliot on the point of the first PP instead of Edler. Love Edler, but he is just not great at that position anymore.
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Well I think he's earned his nickname Poo except for the last few games. It just goes to show you that when a player is on a reasonable contract it's a lot easier to change your mind about them.
All you’re really showing me that you made up your mind about him and you’re not budging.
Whatever....
TBH i dont see what you guys are seeing in Pouliot now where you think hes an ok dman. Last year he was awful, like a #9 dman who clearly should have been in the AHL or lower. This year hes like a 7/8, i mean i guess thats improvement but lets not kid ourselves, on a competitive playoff team theres no way hes in their top 6. And even on our team id argue he should be our #7
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