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Here’s my spreadsheet for upcoming UFAs, each team’s cap situation, and a trade tracker. I update the spreadsheet daily. I use CapFriendly to create this list and AFP Analytics for the contract projections.

Edit: Spreadsheet has been updated with AFP's latest projections and I added a new section for RFAs.

Spoiler: UFAs By Position

Top-6 Forwards
Sam Reinhart	RW	28	8y/10.25m
Jake Guentzel	W	29	6y/7.94m
Steven Stamkos	LW/C	34	3y/6.30m
Jonathan Marchessault	W	33	3y/6.25m
Joe Pavelski	RW	39	1y/3.94m
Matt Duchene	RW/C	33	3y/6.46m
Sean Monahan	FW	29	3y/2.87m
Tyler Toffoli	W	32	5y/6.53m
Jonathan Drouin	W	29	4y/4.46m
Teuvo Teravainen	W	29	5y/6.13m
Vladimir Tarasenko	RW	32	3y/5.64m
Adam Henrique	LW/C	34	2y/4.60m
Chandler Stephenson	C/LW	30	5y/5.77m
Max Domi	C/RW	29	3y/4.17m
Patrick Kane	RW	35	2y/5.51m
Elias Lindholm	C/RW	29	7y/8.04m
Anthony Mantha	W	29	3y/4.40m
Daniel Sprong	W	27	3y/3.89m
Jake DeBrusk	W	27	5y/5.92m
David Perron	W	36	2y/2.80m
Tyler Bertuzzi	W	29	5y/6.00m
Anthony Duclair	W	28	3y/3.22m
Jason Zucker	W	32	3y/5.46m
Jack Roslovic	C/RW	27	3y/3.11m
Max Pacioretty	LW	35
Alexander Barabanov	W	30	3y/3.03m

Top-4 Defecemen
Shayne Gostisbehere	LD/RD	31	3y/4.38m
Brady Skjei	LD	30	6y/7.39m
Noah Hanifin	LD	27	7y/7.69m
Brandon Montour	RD	30	7y/8.71m
Oliver Ekman-Larsson	LD	32	3y/3.67m
Dylan DeMelo	RD	31	4y/5.07m
Sean Walker	LD/RD	29	4y/4.87m
Matt Roy	RD	29	4y/5.58m
TJ Brodie	LD/RD	34	3y/4.91m
Brenden Dillon	LD	33	2y/3.91m
Alexandre Carrier	RD	27	3y/3.57m
Nikita Zadorov	LD/RD	29	4y/5.10m
Chris Tanev	RD	34	3y/4.68m
Brett Pesce	RD	29	6y/6.72m
Matt Grzelcyk	LD	30	3y/4.07m
Oliver Kylington	LD/RD	27

Bottom-6 Forwards
James van Riemsdyk	W	35	1y/1.50m
Warren Foegele	W	28	4y/3.58m
Stefan Noesen	W	31	2y/3.23m
Danton Heinen	W	28
Tyler Johnson	FW	33
Alexander Wennberg	C	29	4y/4.21m
Jordan Martinook	W	31	2y/2.79m
Dakota Joshua	LW	28	3y/3.00m
Michael Amadio	W	28
Teddy Blueger	C/LW	29	2y/2.56m
Sam Lafferty	FW	29	2y/1.72m
Kiefer Sherwood	W	29
Mike Hoffman	LW	34	1y/1.86m
Tomas Tatar	W	33	1y/2.21m
Kyle Okposo	RW	36	1y/1.96m
Kasperi Kapanen	RW	27
Andrew Cogliano	LW	37
Jakob Silfverberg	W	33	2y/2.78m
Cal Clutterbuck	RW	36
Corey Perry	RW	39
Patrick Maroon	W	36
Yakov Trenin	LW/C	27	3y/3.33m
Dominik Kubalik	W	28	2y/1.34m
Anthony Beauvillier	W	27
Sam Carrick	C/RW	32
Tanner Pearson	LW	31
Zemgus Girgensons	LW/C	30	2y/1.74m
Colin Blackwell	C/RW	31
Brandon Duhaime	W	27
Nick Cousins	LW/C	30
Connor Brown	W	30
Joel Kiviranta	W	28
William Carrier	LW	29	3y/2.68m
Tyler Motte	W	29	3y/2.55m
Samuel Blais	W	28	1y/0.94m
Tyson Jost	C	26

Bottom-Pairing Defencemen
Erik Gustafsson	LD	32	3y/4.99m
Tyler Myers	RD	34	2y/2.67m
Justin Schultz	RD	33	2y/3.81m
Kevin Shattenkirk	RD	35	1y/1.37m
Jalen Chatfield	RD	28	3y/2.77m
Mike Reilly	LD	30	1y/1.24m
Dmitry Kulikov	LD/RD	33
Alec Martinez	LD	36	1y/1.7m
Tyson Barrie	RD	32	2y/3.72m
Jani Hakanpaa	RD	32	2y/2.38m
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Ian Cole	LD/RD	35	2y/3.09m
Matt Dumba	RD	29	3y/3.73m
Colin Miller	RD	31
Mark Giordano	LD	40	1y/3.11m
Marco Scandella	LD	34
Calvin De Haan	LD/RD	33
Josh Brown	RD	30
Ilya Lyubushkin	RD	30	1y/1.31m
Joel Edmundson	LD/RD	31
Troy Stecher	RD	30
Derek Forbort	LD	32
Erik Johnson	RD	36	1y/1.13m

Forward Depth
Christian Fischer	W	27
Craig Smith	RW	34
Victor Olofsson	W	28
Trevor Lewis	RW/C	37
Justin Bailey	RW	29
Kevin Stenlund	C/RW	27
Jeff Carter	RW/C	39
Ryan Carpenter	RW/C	33
Nicolas Aube-Kubel	RW	28	2y/1.53m
AJ Greer	W	27
Liam O'Brien	W	29
Chris Tierney	C	30
Mattias Janmark	W	31
Sam Gagner	RW/C	34
Brendan Smith	LD/RD	35
Eric Robinson	LW	29
Zach Parise	LW	39
Kevin Labanc	W	28	2y/1.94m
Fredrik Olofsson	C/LW	28
Alex Barre-Boulet	W	27
Matt Martin	W	35
Radim Zohorna	W	28
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare	C/LW	39
Tyler Pitlick	RW	32
Austin Watson	W	32
Tomas Nosek	LW/C	31
Jansen Harkins	LW	27
Rourke Chartier	C	28
Steven Lorentz	FW	28

Defensive Depth
Jack Johnson	LD	37
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Anthony Deangelo	RD	28	2y/1.80m
Jarred Tinordi	LD	32
Sebastian Aho	LD	28
Dakota Mermis	LD/RD	30
Jacob MacDonald	LD/RD	31
Dennis Gilbert	LD	27
Nikita Zaitsev	RD	32
Nick DeSimone	RD	29
Travis Dermott	LD/RD	27
Caleb Jones	LD/RD	27
Chad Ruhwedel	RD	34
William Lageson	LD/RD	28

Goaltenders
Cam Talbot	G	36	1y/1.89m
Ilya Samsonov	G	27	2y/3.26m
Alex Nedeljkovic	G	28	2y/2.00m
Kaapo Kahkonen	G	27	2y/2.93m
Scott Wedgewood	G	31	2y/1.57m
Casey DeSmith	G	32	1y/2.02m
Anthony Stolarz	G	30	2y/1.91m
James Reimar	G	36
Antti Raanta	G	35	1y/1.31m
David Rittich	G	31
Kevin Lankinen	G	29	1y/1.58m
Laurent Brossoit	G	31	2y/1.95m
Calvin Pickard	G	32
Martin Jones	G	34

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[Mr. Canucklehead]

My hunch is that we sign only one of our big three pending UFAs - Lindholm, Zadorov, Joshua.

I would guess we retain Myers and let Cole go.

And I think we pursue some other pieces in free agency.

Just my guess.

 

[TruGr1t]

To me it comes down to whether you keep Hronek or Lindholm, and what the subsequent trade value of Hronek is if you go in that direction, because that will largely dictate what you're looking to address. I like the three-deep centre setup we have currently, but you probably take a bigger hit on defense if you go in that direction.

If all our free agents use the playoffs as leverage on contracts we're in trouble because we cannot afford many of these guys at market value. For example, if Hronek and Lindholm both still think they're worth $7.5-8M AAV and we lose both we're pretty screwed. Then if Zadorov is stuck on 6x6 and Joshua thinks he can get 4x4ish ... yikes man.

There's a scenario where you're looking for a new Hughes partner, a new second-pair RSD, a new 3C, and building a second line around Pettersson. The return on Hronek had better be significant, and you better find some value in free agency.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

My hunch is that we sign only one of our big three pending UFAs - Lindholm, Zadorov, Joshua.

I would guess we retain Myers and let Cole go.

And I think we pursue some other pieces in free agency.

Just my guess.

This franchise will need a few prospects to make massive leaps in their development over the next 2 years. You really just hope Raty, Lekkerimaki and Bains transition into NHLers and offset losses in the bottom 6. Likewise, you hope guys like Pettersson (D), McWard and Willander push their way onto the Canucks blueline.

Really sucks that Podkolzin and Klimovich took steps back the past 2 years.

Part of JR's success in Pittsburgh was having young guys like Dumoulin, Rust, Sheary, Wilson and Maata push their way onto the roster.

 

[arttk]

In looking at the numbers this morning, we're kind of one expensive guy away from flexibility. This is what I would like to see:

Hronek @ 7mil
Zadorov @ 5.8mil
Lindholm @ 7mil
Joshua @ 3mil
Blueger @ 2mil
Myers @ 3mil

We could technically afford all of that IF we found a way to move Mikheyev. But, we would have only 3.8mil left to sign a right side defenseman and ideally another forward that could slip into the top 6 (at that rate, likely a reclamation project).

		Pettersson	11.6	Hoglander	1.1
Boeser	6.65	Miller	8	Suter	1.6
Garland	4.95	Lindholm	7	Joshua	3
Aman	0.88	Blueger	2	Podkolzin	1
13F	0.8
Hughes	7.85	Hronek	7
Soucy	3.25
Zadorov	5.8	Myers	3
Demko	5
Silovs	0.79
Ferland LTIR	0
Poolman LTIR	0
OEL Buyout	2.35
Estimated Salary Cap	87.5​	Mil
Total Cap		83.612​	Mil
Cap Space		3.888​	Mil

That would be our best "run it back" option. The thing about Mikheyev is, I don't know, he could rebound next year... But even still, he's just really expensive for what he brings. A buyout really isn't an option, and it would probably cost us a 2nd round pick to move him. If we have to keep him, then we could let Blueger and Myers walk instead. We'd have to role Aman or a prospect at 4C, and we'd only have about 3.25mil to add two defensemen.

Like I said, we're one heavy contract away from flexibility. Our management team likely has some other ideas on what we need as well though, so I imagine this template is far off from what they'll actually do haha.

Probably better to not sign Zadorov, Joshua. Doubt Bluegar will sign for that cheap. we should try to run like 3-4M under the cap so we have more room to maneuver around TDL.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

This franchise will need a few prospects to make massive leaps in their development over the next 2 years. You really just hope Raty, Lekkerimaki and Bains transition into NHLers and offset losses in the bottom 6. Likewise, you hope guys like Pettersson (D), McWard and Willander push their way onto the Canucks blueline.

Really sucks that Podkolzin and Klimovich took steps back the past 2 years.

Part of JR's success in Pittsburgh was having young guys like Dumoulin, Rust, Sheary, Wilson and Maata push their way onto the roster.

While I agree, I also think we are still at least a year out from Lekkerimaki or Willander making an impact with the big club. Willander will be back in college next year, and Lekkerimaki will be in Abbotsford - will be good to more closely follow him and his development.

 

[arttk]

This franchise will need a few prospects to make massive leaps in their development over the next 2 years. You really just hope Raty, Lekkerimaki and Bains transition into NHLers and offset losses in the bottom 6. Likewise, you hope guys like Pettersson (D), McWard and Willander push their way onto the Canucks blueline.

Really sucks that Podkolzin and Klimovich took steps back the past 2 years.

Part of JR's success in Pittsburgh was having young guys like Dumoulin, Rust, Sheary, Wilson and Maata push their way onto the roster.

Need Pod to replace Joshua on the 3rd line.

 

[TruGr1t]

While I agree, I also think we are still at least a year out from Lekkerimaki or Willander making an impact with the big club. Willander will be back in college next year, and Lekkerimaki will be in Abbotsford - will be good to more closely follow him and his development.

Yeah, the guys needed next year are Raty, Podz and Bains. Aman will likely be needed on a more full-time basis. I don't hold out much hope we have any young defensemen poised to take a regular shift in the NHL.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Yeah, the guys needed next year are Raty, Podz and Bains. Aman will likely be needed on a more full-time basis. I don't hold out much hope we have any young defensemen poised to take a regular shift in the NHL.

I think Podkolzin and Aman are basically with the team unless they get replaced by free agent acquisitions - I believe both are waiver eligible.

The Canucks are very high on Bains and his development curve has gone up each season - I was surprised Raty didn't get a look this year despite having a breakthrough AHL season in the second half.

 

[iceburg]

I would be surprised if they don't take a run at signing Lindholm and Zadorov before July 1st. They'll need to trade Hronek's rights or dump Mikheyev's contract in order to do so.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

While I agree, I also think we are still at least a year out from Lekkerimaki or Willander making an impact with the big club. Willander will be back in college next year, and Lekkerimaki will be in Abbotsford - will be good to more closely follow him and his development.

This really feels like 2006-2008 again where we were waiting for guys like Burrows, Kesler, Raymond, Edler and Hansen to either further develop or make their way onto the roster. It would be massive if we had a bumper crop of youth contribute at a low cap hit during the OEL dead cap years. Part of me is optimistic and hopes we avoid any lengthy term deals to the older UFA's, but another part of me knows Miller isn't getting any younger.

 

[theguardianII]

These playoffs could be used to prioritize who to sign.

First off defence is harder to find than forwards.
A good example is this group essentially lost over 70 goals off the roster since the allstar break.
Moving Kuzmenko and Pettersson game taking a nose dive.
And still they went this far and not even with their Vezina candidate goalie.

So on defence in order of resigning
Zadorov, no dman had as much attention from the other side, played left side and right side and was the team's leading goal scorer. Hi priority to sign, I have posted 6-7 for 7 years with clause. That might not be enough now with what TO i likely to offer him.
Myers, paired with Soucy to face the two of the best players on the planet and held their own as much as any pairing in the league would. 3-4 for 3/4 years
Hronek, a good RHD for the easy season and was tasked with playing with Hughes a lot. In the easy season not so bad but not good enough to make up for Hughes not being able to handle the big boys so he had to and it wore him down. Can't have two little guys on one pairing. He might need to be sacrificed to keep others.
Cole, time has started catching up to him, the slowest dman on the roster, a one year deal maybe at 1 mil.

At forward
Joshua, but not at more than 3 mil. He is a journeyman that had a good 3/4 of a season. 3X4.
Lindholm, great a center and looked better than EP, but EPcan't be used as a comparison, his playoffs were so un EPish. 6X4 yrs.

A number of others will need to be dealt to keep the defence and Lindholm and Joshua.

The team showed that scoring was not Tocchet's first priority, from the all star break on he changed the system to tight low event hockey. Boeser had a GREAT playoff run, he does seem to be better then, but was out scored by Kuzmenko in the same number of games, scoring a 25 goal per year rate from the Allstar game on. The entire team scoring dropped like a rock but then maybe all that goal scoring also had to do with unrealistically high shooting percentages earlier on in the easy season. I think I posted that over 10% of the goals came in 5% of the games, or something like that.

I still think Boeser should be moves while the kettle is hot. There will be other cheaper, faster, bigger and younger players that fit Tocchet's board battle warrior style. And with his playoff play he will get a very good return.

If Garland decided to move on now I don't think he would have any trouble at all. But he might be a keeper now, he can drive a line by himself.

And now probably 3+ years of hearing "find a winger for Pettersson" or partner for Hughes.

Up to the draft it ought to be interesting.

I await the signing news and the draft for trade action, this is Rutherford/Allvin combo does make waves in the market.

I would not be upset with Zadorov making over 7 mil.
I could work out the cap hit for the defence squad to keep it pretty close to what it is now.

Hronek's 4.75, Myers' 6, Cole's 3 and Zadorov's 3.75. Added together, 17.5 mil.
Zadorov 7 mil
Myers 3.5 mil
Juulsen .9mil
Leaving almost 7 mil to replace Hronek or resign him BUT if he is traded then the return might bolster the forward group and there are 30 large humans that play defence on the market this year.

The team also has to start hunting down replacements for Pettersson and JTMiller very soon. EP isn't in that inexperienced "young" core anymore. True still only 26 next season but in his 7/8th year since drafted. It took Miller over 4 years for him to establish himself. The Canucks don't have many high end top six prospects. They do have a few middle six guys.

Great and surprising season, I truly expected a one and done.
I hope this isn't a replay of Seattle but they will/could be hard pressed to improve the results of this season.

 

[Izzy Goodenough]

Canucks hold the Magic of the 8 year term for incumbent UFA signings.

Use it.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

Bring up Raty to replace Lafferty. Hopefully we can find some grit if Joshua walks.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Bring up Raty to replace Lafferty. Hopefully we can find some grit if Joshua walks.

Lafferty is gone in free agency, methinks - hot start to the season, and a little bump in March, but way too many ineffectual games.

Priority 1 this off-season is jettisoning Mikheyev's contract somehow. We need the space and flexibility to deal with our other concerns.

 

[StickShift]

I think re-signing Zadorov is going to come down to a decision of keeping him or Soucy.

They cannot afford to commit that much salary to LD2 and LD3.

Priority 1 this off-season is jettisoning Mikheyev's contract somehow. We need the space and flexibility to deal with our other concerns.

A Mikheyev trade is going to be particularly onerous. It will cost picks or assets that the Canucks simply don’t have.

The most likely outcome is still a buyout—even if Dhaliwal says Vancouver doesn’t want to do that. They said the same thing about OEL last year, too.

The only other outcome I could see is if Vancouver chooses to trade Mikheyev for a player like Kotkaniemi where there is still potential upside but significant long-term risk.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I think re-signing Zadorov is going to come down to a decision of keeping him or Soucy.

They cannot afford to commit that much salary to LD2 and LD3.

All depends on how you plan to deploy him. Canucks ran him as their third pairing guy with Cole most of the post-season. If that's the case, you simply can't commit his asking price and use him like that.

If you plan on him being on your second pairing, however, the price is a lot more palatable.

 

[ManVanFan]

These playoffs could be used to prioritize who to sign.

First off defence is harder to find than forwards.
A good example is this group essentially lost over 70 goals off the roster since the allstar break.
Moving Kuzmenko and Pettersson game taking a nose dive.
And still they went this far and not even with their Vezina candidate goalie.

So on defence in order of resigning
Zadorov, no dman had as much attention from the other side, played left side and right side and was the team's leading goal scorer. Hi priority to sign, I have posted 6-7 for 7 years with clause. That might not be enough now with what TO i likely to offer him.
Myers, paired with Soucy to face the two of the best players on the planet and held their own as much as any pairing in the league would. 3-4 for 3/4 years
Hronek, a good RHD for the easy season and was tasked with playing with Hughes a lot. In the easy season not so bad but not good enough to make up for Hughes not being able to handle the big boys so he had to and it wore him down. Can't have two little guys on one pairing. He might need to be sacrificed to keep others.
Cole, time has started catching up to him, the slowest dman on the roster, a one year deal maybe at 1 mil.

At forward
Joshua, but not at more than 3 mil. He is a journeyman that had a good 3/4 of a season. 3X4.
Lindholm, great a center and looked better than EP, but EPcan't be used as a comparison, his playoffs were so un EPish. 6X4 yrs.

A number of others will need to be dealt to keep the defence and Lindholm and Joshua.

The team showed that scoring was not Tocchet's first priority, from the all star break on he changed the system to tight low event hockey. Boeser had a GREAT playoff run, he does seem to be better then, but was out scored by Kuzmenko in the same number of games, scoring a 25 goal per year rate from the Allstar game on. The entire team scoring dropped like a rock but then maybe all that goal scoring also had to do with unrealistically high shooting percentages earlier on in the easy season. I think I posted that over 10% of the goals came in 5% of the games, or something like that.

I still think Boeser should be moves while the kettle is hot. There will be other cheaper, faster, bigger and younger players that fit Tocchet's board battle warrior style. And with his playoff play he will get a very good return.

If Garland decided to move on now I don't think he would have any trouble at all. But he might be a keeper now, he can drive a line by himself.

And now probably 3+ years of hearing "find a winger for Pettersson" or partner for Hughes.

Up to the draft it ought to be interesting.

I await the signing news and the draft for trade action, this is Rutherford/Allvin combo does make waves in the market.

I would not be upset with Zadorov making over 7 mil.
I could work out the cap hit for the defence squad to keep it pretty close to what it is now.

Hronek's 4.75, Myers' 6, Cole's 3 and Zadorov's 3.75. Added together, 17.5 mil.
Zadorov 7 mil
Myers 3.5 mil
Juulsen .9mil
Leaving almost 7 mil to replace Hronek or resign him BUT if he is traded then the return might bolster the forward group and there are 30 large humans that play defence on the market this year.

The team also has to start hunting down replacements for Pettersson and JTMiller very soon. EP isn't in that inexperienced "young" core anymore. True still only 26 next season but in his 7/8th year since drafted. It took Miller over 4 years for him to establish himself. The Canucks don't have many high end top six prospects. They do have a few middle six guys.

Great and surprising season, I truly expected a one and done.
I hope this isn't a replay of Seattle but they will/could be hard pressed to improve the results of this season.

Paying 7M a year to a defender that gets 20 points a season and plays 19 minutes a game would be absolutely f***en bonkers. In your post you admitted he played 3rd pairing. He's lucky if he gets 5M a year.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I think re-signing Zadorov is going to come down to a decision of keeping him or Soucy.

They cannot afford to commit that much salary to LD2 and LD3.



A Mikheyev trade is going to be particularly onerous. It will cost picks or assets that the Canucks simply don’t have.

The most likely outcome is still a buyout—even if Dhaliwal says Vancouver doesn’t want to do that. They said the same thing about OEL last year, too.

The only other outcome I could see is if Vancouver chooses to trade Mikheyev for a player like Kotkaniemi where there is still potential upside but significant long-term risk.

Franchise needs to keep their assets.

Potentially near 6-7 mil of dead cap for 25/26 and 26/27 is a massive killer.

Kotkaniemi flat out sucks.

We can discuss many solutions when it comes to Mikheyev but the harsh reality is we are likely stuck with him. If you want to make a point you can maybe bury him in the AHL which saves us about 1,150,000.

 

[theguardianII]

My hunch is that we sign only one of our big three pending UFAs - Lindholm, Zadorov, Joshua.

I would guess we retain Myers and let Cole go.

And I think we pursue some other pieces in free agency.

Just my guess.

I think they make a run for Lindholm but he is a FA and might want to go home to Calgary, he will also be 30 yr old at the start of any contract and I don't think I team like the Islanders is the type of team that is too successful, the window is shortened.
Zadorov, defence is different especially for big guys, they are useful much longer. He should be priority one, try to get him signed before July 1 even if it 7X8.
Myers at 34 still has game but a shorter lifespan, up to 4 X 3 with signing bonus AND he wants to stay here so maybe 3.5 X 4 or something like that.
Both of those guys have been durable.

To me it comes down to whether you keep Hronek or Lindholm, and what the subsequent trade value of Hronek is if you go in that direction, because that will largely dictate what you're looking to address. I like the three-deep centre setup we have currently, but you probably take a bigger hit on defense if you go in that direction.

If all our free agents use the playoffs as leverage on contracts we're in trouble because we cannot afford many of these guys at market value. For example, if Hronek and Lindholm both still think they're worth $7.5-8M AAV and we lose both we're pretty screwed. Then if Zadorov is stuck on 6x6 and Joshua thinks he can get 4x4ish ... yikes man.

There's a scenario where you're looking for a new Hughes partner, a new second-pair RSD, a new 3C, and building a second line around Pettersson. The return on Hronek had better be significant, and you better find some value in free agency.

Hronek might be the largest asset the team has to trade, he would certainly be wanted by several teams and there are some that will want him. IMO make a deal with Utah before Utah make Zadorov an offer that can't be met.
In FA there are 31 defencemen over 6'3" that are UFAs and another 31 that are RFA's 10.2c's.
Plus what might be traded for.

I would be surprised if they don't take a run at signing Lindholm and Zadorov before July 1st. They'll need to trade Hronek's rights or dump Mikheyev's contract in order to do so.

Agree, but not too long or too much for another 30yr old player in Lindholm.
Hronek will get a good return.
Zadorov should get close to Hughes type money 6.5-7ish
Mikheyev could be bought out but that is trading on tomorrows cap and they have done that already.

This really feels like 2006-2008 again where we were waiting for guys like Burrows, Kesler, Raymond, Edler and Hansen to either further develop or make their way onto the roster. It would be massive if we had a bumper crop of youth contribute at a low cap hit during the OEL dead cap years. Part of me is optimistic and hopes we avoid any lengthy term deals to the older UFA's, but another part of me knows Miller isn't getting any younger.

IMO there are 5 prospects that can meet Tocchet's board battler guys and save some cap space, they need 5 for next year. Aman, Podkolzin, Karlsson,
Gone will be Lafferty, Suter, Blueger maybe.
I think the forward group will look much different next year.
I think the entire group could look different next year or at least 5 or 6 new faces.

 

[ManVanFan]

19-20 after the bubble. Benning could sign 2 out of the 3.
Tanev, Toffoli, Markstrom. In terms of need back then it should have went in that order.

This year Lindholm, Myers, Hronek, Zadorov and you can only sign 3 to of 4. In terms of order this time it should be Hronek, Myers, Zadorov, Lindholm. They need a right side top pair defender, they need a right side 2nd pair defender. They could use some size and toughness on the left side of defence.

Pius Suter is playing in the top 6. Do they really need to spend money on another center if Suter, Hoglander and Mikheyev are in the top 6?

 

[theguardianII]

Paying 7M a year to a defender that gets 20 points a season and plays 19 minutes a game would be absolutely f***en bonkers. In your post you admitted he played 3rd pairing. He's lucky if he gets 5M a year.

The Edmonton Oilers commented many, many times "that defence is hard to get around, they are huge" talking about Hughes? Hronek? You know sometimes playing defence is about playing defence. How much PP time did Zadorov get or Soucy or Myers? Yet they all out scored Hughes 5 on 5 in the real season.
You don't build a team just for entertainment, for that there is wrestling. The goal of this team is to be better and a cup contender.
When two of the best players in the word are complimenting the Canuck huge defence and how hard is to get past them do you really think they are talking about Hughes?
You build a cup contender, size matters and when a player attracts that much attention and the other team tries to keep their best players away from him that isn't worth something? And he is 28 yrs old, he has another 7 good years left in him.
Did you not think or realize he was the only defenceman that was shuttled all over, playing with Hughes mostly when trying to keep a lead. Versitile. And he out scored Hughes in the playoffs 5 on 5 but then so did Soucy and Myers the other large humans.
You paying him 7 mil jut means he is now top 4 defence maybe even a top two. That is what is ranked now in the league by CF.
His game didn't evaporate, neither did his scoring if anything it went up in the playoffs. Your hate for him isn't justified.
And what do you think 7 mil will be in 3 more years when the cap hits over 100 mil? Average for a top 4 dman, hell Hronek wants 8 mil now.

Just to add Chara didn't get many points until he was put on the PP regularly. Not that Zadorov is Chara 2.0 but he is Zadorov, big Z.

 

[Jerry the great]

All depends on how you plan to deploy him. Canucks ran him as their third pairing guy with Cole most of the post-season. If that's the case, you simply can't commit his asking price and use him like that.

If you plan on him being on your second pairing, however, the price is a lot more palatable.

he logged 3rd most minutes in the post season. 3rd total, 3rd ES, 3rd SH. He's a 2nd pair defender all day long IMO.

we have $26.25 MM in cap space $31MM if we can jettison Mikheyev.

Hughes-Tanev
Zadorov - Chatfield
Soucy - Myers
Juulsen

Running with this D probably eats up $16MM (5+5+3.25+2.75)

 

[ManVanFan]

The Edmonton Oilers commented many, many times "that defence is hard to get around, they are huge" talking about Hughes? Hronek? You know sometimes playing defence is about playing defence. How much PP time did Zadorov get or Soucy or Myers? Yet they all out scored Hughes 5 on 5 in the real season.
You don't build a team just for entertainment, for that there is wrestling. The goal of this team is to be better and a cup contender.
When two of the best players in the word are complimenting the Canuck huge defence and how hard is to get past them do you really think they are talking about Hughes?
You build a cup contender, size matters and when a player attracts that much attention and the other team tries to keep their best players away from him that isn't worth something? And he is 28 yrs old, he has another 7 good years left in him.
Did you not think or realize he was the only defenceman that was shuttled all over, playing with Hughes mostly when trying to keep a lead. Versitile. And he out scored Hughes in the playoffs 5 on 5 but then so did Soucy and Myers the other large humans.
You paying him 7 mil jut means he is now top 4 defence maybe even a top two. That is what is ranked now in the league by CF.
His game didn't evaporate, neither did his scoring if anything it went up in the playoffs. Your hate for him isn't justified.
And what do you think 7 mil will be in 3 more years when the cap hits over 100 mil? Average for a top 4 dman, hell Hronek wants 8 mil now.

Do you think the Canucks make the playoffs with Myers, Zadarov, Soucy as their top 3 D?

 

[Jerry the great]

Do you think the Canucks make the playoffs with Myers, Zadarov, Soucy as their top 3 D?

who TF has them there?

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

Your ass is reporting contract details now?

Still probably more reliable than 90% of reporters and insiders.