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Here’s my spreadsheet for upcoming UFAs, each team’s cap situation, and a trade tracker. I update the spreadsheet daily. I use CapFriendly to create this list and AFP Analytics for the contract projections.

Edit: Spreadsheet has been updated with AFP's latest projections and I added a new section for RFAs.

Spoiler: UFAs By Position

Top-6 Forwards
Sam Reinhart	RW	28	8y/10.25m
Jake Guentzel	W	29	6y/7.94m
Steven Stamkos	LW/C	34	3y/6.30m
Jonathan Marchessault	W	33	3y/6.25m
Joe Pavelski	RW	39	1y/3.94m
Matt Duchene	RW/C	33	3y/6.46m
Sean Monahan	FW	29	3y/2.87m
Tyler Toffoli	W	32	5y/6.53m
Jonathan Drouin	W	29	4y/4.46m
Teuvo Teravainen	W	29	5y/6.13m
Vladimir Tarasenko	RW	32	3y/5.64m
Adam Henrique	LW/C	34	2y/4.60m
Chandler Stephenson	C/LW	30	5y/5.77m
Max Domi	C/RW	29	3y/4.17m
Patrick Kane	RW	35	2y/5.51m
Elias Lindholm	C/RW	29	7y/8.04m
Anthony Mantha	W	29	3y/4.40m
Daniel Sprong	W	27	3y/3.89m
Jake DeBrusk	W	27	5y/5.92m
David Perron	W	36	2y/2.80m
Tyler Bertuzzi	W	29	5y/6.00m
Anthony Duclair	W	28	3y/3.22m
Jason Zucker	W	32	3y/5.46m
Jack Roslovic	C/RW	27	3y/3.11m
Max Pacioretty	LW	35
Alexander Barabanov	W	30	3y/3.03m

Top-4 Defecemen
Shayne Gostisbehere	LD/RD	31	3y/4.38m
Brady Skjei	LD	30	6y/7.39m
Noah Hanifin	LD	27	7y/7.69m
Brandon Montour	RD	30	7y/8.71m
Oliver Ekman-Larsson	LD	32	3y/3.67m
Dylan DeMelo	RD	31	4y/5.07m
Sean Walker	LD/RD	29	4y/4.87m
Matt Roy	RD	29	4y/5.58m
TJ Brodie	LD/RD	34	3y/4.91m
Brenden Dillon	LD	33	2y/3.91m
Alexandre Carrier	RD	27	3y/3.57m
Nikita Zadorov	LD/RD	29	4y/5.10m
Chris Tanev	RD	34	3y/4.68m
Brett Pesce	RD	29	6y/6.72m
Matt Grzelcyk	LD	30	3y/4.07m
Oliver Kylington	LD/RD	27

Bottom-6 Forwards
James van Riemsdyk	W	35	1y/1.50m
Warren Foegele	W	28	4y/3.58m
Stefan Noesen	W	31	2y/3.23m
Danton Heinen	W	28
Tyler Johnson	FW	33
Alexander Wennberg	C	29	4y/4.21m
Jordan Martinook	W	31	2y/2.79m
Dakota Joshua	LW	28	3y/3.00m
Michael Amadio	W	28
Teddy Blueger	C/LW	29	2y/2.56m
Sam Lafferty	FW	29	2y/1.72m
Kiefer Sherwood	W	29
Mike Hoffman	LW	34	1y/1.86m
Tomas Tatar	W	33	1y/2.21m
Kyle Okposo	RW	36	1y/1.96m
Kasperi Kapanen	RW	27
Andrew Cogliano	LW	37
Jakob Silfverberg	W	33	2y/2.78m
Cal Clutterbuck	RW	36
Corey Perry	RW	39
Patrick Maroon	W	36
Yakov Trenin	LW/C	27	3y/3.33m
Dominik Kubalik	W	28	2y/1.34m
Anthony Beauvillier	W	27
Sam Carrick	C/RW	32
Tanner Pearson	LW	31
Zemgus Girgensons	LW/C	30	2y/1.74m
Colin Blackwell	C/RW	31
Brandon Duhaime	W	27
Nick Cousins	LW/C	30
Connor Brown	W	30
Joel Kiviranta	W	28
William Carrier	LW	29	3y/2.68m
Tyler Motte	W	29	3y/2.55m
Samuel Blais	W	28	1y/0.94m
Tyson Jost	C	26

Bottom-Pairing Defencemen
Erik Gustafsson	LD	32	3y/4.99m
Tyler Myers	RD	34	2y/2.67m
Justin Schultz	RD	33	2y/3.81m
Kevin Shattenkirk	RD	35	1y/1.37m
Jalen Chatfield	RD	28	3y/2.77m
Mike Reilly	LD	30	1y/1.24m
Dmitry Kulikov	LD/RD	33
Alec Martinez	LD	36	1y/1.7m
Tyson Barrie	RD	32	2y/3.72m
Jani Hakanpaa	RD	32	2y/2.38m
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Ian Cole	LD/RD	35	2y/3.09m
Matt Dumba	RD	29	3y/3.73m
Colin Miller	RD	31
Mark Giordano	LD	40	1y/3.11m
Marco Scandella	LD	34
Calvin De Haan	LD/RD	33
Josh Brown	RD	30
Ilya Lyubushkin	RD	30	1y/1.31m
Joel Edmundson	LD/RD	31
Troy Stecher	RD	30
Derek Forbort	LD	32
Erik Johnson	RD	36	1y/1.13m

Forward Depth
Christian Fischer	W	27
Craig Smith	RW	34
Victor Olofsson	W	28
Trevor Lewis	RW/C	37
Justin Bailey	RW	29
Kevin Stenlund	C/RW	27
Jeff Carter	RW/C	39
Ryan Carpenter	RW/C	33
Nicolas Aube-Kubel	RW	28	2y/1.53m
AJ Greer	W	27
Liam O'Brien	W	29
Chris Tierney	C	30
Mattias Janmark	W	31
Sam Gagner	RW/C	34
Brendan Smith	LD/RD	35
Eric Robinson	LW	29
Zach Parise	LW	39
Kevin Labanc	W	28	2y/1.94m
Fredrik Olofsson	C/LW	28
Alex Barre-Boulet	W	27
Matt Martin	W	35
Radim Zohorna	W	28
Pierre-Edouard Bellemare	C/LW	39
Tyler Pitlick	RW	32
Austin Watson	W	32
Tomas Nosek	LW/C	31
Jansen Harkins	LW	27
Rourke Chartier	C	28
Steven Lorentz	FW	28

Defensive Depth
Jack Johnson	LD	37
Vincent Desharnais	RD	28	2y/1.41m
Anthony Deangelo	RD	28	2y/1.80m
Jarred Tinordi	LD	32
Sebastian Aho	LD	28
Dakota Mermis	LD/RD	30
Jacob MacDonald	LD/RD	31
Dennis Gilbert	LD	27
Nikita Zaitsev	RD	32
Nick DeSimone	RD	29
Travis Dermott	LD/RD	27
Caleb Jones	LD/RD	27
Chad Ruhwedel	RD	34
William Lageson	LD/RD	28

Goaltenders
Cam Talbot	G	36	1y/1.89m
Ilya Samsonov	G	27	2y/3.26m
Alex Nedeljkovic	G	28	2y/2.00m
Kaapo Kahkonen	G	27	2y/2.93m
Scott Wedgewood	G	31	2y/1.57m
Casey DeSmith	G	32	1y/2.02m
Anthony Stolarz	G	30	2y/1.91m
James Reimar	G	36
Antti Raanta	G	35	1y/1.31m
David Rittich	G	31
Kevin Lankinen	G	29	1y/1.58m
Laurent Brossoit	G	31	2y/1.95m
Calvin Pickard	G	32
Martin Jones	G	34

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[MS]

He'll probably end up going for a 2nd and another pick given how much the Hurricanes love draft picks and the amount of 2nds that the Utah Hockey Clubs and Blackhawks have. His 71 point season last year is better than anything Bjorkstrand or Boeser were able to accomplish when they were put on the block.

That's probably about exactly what will happen.

Bjorkstrand's no-fans year he scored at a 64-point pace while leading his team in scoring by a wide margin. I don't think it was hugely different.

 

[JAK]

Mikheyev + 2nd for 5th + prospect.

 

[Vector]

That's probably about exactly what will happen.

Bjorkstrand's no-fans year he scored at a 64-point pace while leading his team in scoring by a wide margin. I don't think it was hugely different.

I don't think smart NHL teams put a lot of value on that season. He also fit the mold of a good scorer on a bad team while Necas, last season, lead a playoff team in scoring. I think a team will convince themselves these are important differences and why he's worth more.

Hurricanes also don't make trades unless they feel they are 100% winning the trade.

 

[JohnHodgson]

You guys are actually insane if you think Carolina will ship him off for a 2nd round pick.

They could literally just go to arbitration with him and have him for another year at a reasonable cost.

A contending team is not going to ship off a young top six forward for a 2nd. Cmon now, let's exercise some common sense yeah?

Using the Bjorkstrand trade just furthers the point - Columbus made a massive mistake to acquire JG and trade Bjorkstrand for peanuts in a flat cap world. The Bjorkstrand trade only happens because of the flat cap and the last minute decision by JG to sign with the Jackets - it wouldn't have happened otherwise.

Bjorkstrand trade was an anomaly (that turned out to be one of the bigger steals in the last 5 years). Why would you guys use that as a baseline?

None of what you guys said made any sense at this point.

Comparing Necas to Boeser makes no sense since Boeser was coming off a terrible season and he's slow. Necas had 71 points the year before and is a speedster.

 

[JohnHodgson]

Which transactions?

They got off Dickinson. They got off Beauvillier (though no extra term) for free. Hall was supposed to be a cap dump but Boston paid nothing to move him. COL got off RyJo for a 1st, but a large part of that cost was acquiring Walker, so maybe the actual "sweetener" value was a 2nd or 3rd. When TOR had to ditch Mrazek it cost them moving down like 10 slots in the draft.

At this point, I'm not saying they'll get off Mik for free. But it won't be "a fortune".

Mikheyev's contract is twice as bad as Dickinnson's. And we had so many people here complaining about giving up a second round pick to get rid of Dickinson.

Chicago desperately needed a goalie and still got a lot of value out of picking up Mrazek. He's been great for them.

From a value/production to contract standpoint, Mikheyev is far worse than the players you are referencing as examples. It'll likely cost a late first or two seconds to dump him, which is not worth it when the org is not exactly stocked with assets.

The more I think about it, the more likely I think the team keeps him to see if he bounces back and deals him at the deadline with a pick if he continues to suck.

 

[Josepho]

The only hope of being able to reasonably get out of Mikheyev's deal (ie less than a 1st) is if SJ feels like adding veterans like Chicago did last offseason, but even then I don't think Mikheyev has the pedigree for any sort of mentor role that Perry/Hall/Foligno have.

 

[bossram]

Mikheyev's contract is twice as bad as Dickinnson's. And we had so many people here complaining about giving up a second round pick to get rid of Dickinson.

Chicago desperately needed a goalie and still got a lot of value out of picking up Mrazek. He's been great for them.

From a value/production to contract standpoint, Mikheyev is far worse than the players you are referencing as examples. It'll likely cost a late first or two seconds to dump him, which is not worth it when the org is not exactly stocked with assets.

The more I think about it, the more likely I think the team keeps him to see if he bounces back and deals him at the deadline with a pick if he continues to suck.

So what you're saying is you actually can't provide any recent examples of expensive cap dumps, and are grasping at straws to say that Mik is not analogous to any of these examples.

The cap dump pricing is going to decrease purely because the scarcity of cap space is going to decline with the rapidly increasing cap.

 

[JohnHodgson]

So what you're saying is you actually can't provide any recent examples of expensive cap dumps, and are grasping at straws to say that Mik in not analogous to any of these examples.

The cap dump pricing is going to decrease purely because the scarcity of cap space is going to decline with the rapidly increasing cap.

I literally just provided an example for Dickinson. What are you talking about bud lol?

Dickinson's deal is half the price as Mikheyev and cost a second round pick to dump. It's going to cost double that price or a late first round pick.

Paying that price to dump off Mikheyev when he can still be an effective top nine forward is a "fortune" to me.

The examples you're bringing up don't make any sense. Beauvillier didn't have any term left and was just a stop-gap. They also traded him at the deadline to Nashville so they basically just rented him for free.

Hall is a legit top six forward who just came off a great playoffs with 8 points in 7 games. Mrazek filled a position of need for Chicago and has been great for them so far.

None of "your examples" that you provided are even close to the reality of Mikheyev's situation.

Avalanche gave up a first round pick to get a 3rd pairing depth defenseman and to dump RyJo. That sounds pretty darn expensive to me.

Cap going up is not going to change the prices - that's not how it works at all. Players will ask for more money and UFA's will get paid more - that will eat up the available cap space. Dumping players will still cost a lot.

 

[JohnHodgson]

The only hope of being able to reasonably get out of Mikheyev's deal (ie less than a 1st) is if SJ feels like adding veterans like Chicago did last offseason, but even then I don't think Mikheyev has the pedigree for any sort of mentor role that Perry/Hall/Foligno have.

This is bang on.

It's like Canucks fans think the rest of league wasn't paying attention since Christmas. Mikheyev might be washed at this point. There would be little to no value in bringing in someone like him from a rebuilding standpoint - in fact he would just be blocking a roster spot and opportunity for a young player to play.

Guys like Hall/Foligno/Perry brought leadership, production, and pedigree to the team. MIkheyev is not going to provide any of these at this point.

 

[bossram]

I literally just provided an example for Dickinson. What are you talking about bud lol?

Dickinson's deal is half the price as Mikheyev and cost a second round pick to dump. It's going to cost double that price or a late first round pick.

Paying that price to dump off Mikheyev when he can still be an effective top nine forward is a "fortune" to me.

The examples you're bringing up don't make any sense. Beauvillier didn't have any term left and was just a stop-gap. They also traded him at the deadline to Nashville so they basically just rented him for free.

Hall is a legit top six forward who just came off a great playoffs with 8 points in 7 games. Mrazek filled a position of need for Chicago and has been great for them so far.

None of "your examples" that you provided are even close to the reality of Mikheyev's situation.

Avalanche gave up a first round pick to get a 3rd pairing depth defenseman and to dump RyJo. That sounds pretty darn expensive to me.

Cap going up is not going to change the prices - that's not how it works at all. Players will ask for more money and UFA's will get paid more - that will eat up the available cap space. Dumping players will still cost a lot.

I already mentioned Dickinson as a player they got off of in short order. Now you're trying to retcon that was your example, lmao. He was horrible in Vancouver and everyone knew that. Wasn't impossible to dump.

Yes, cap going up will affect prices. It's supply and demand. There is going to be an artificially induced increase in the supply of cap space. Therefore, the value of buying cap space will decrease. We've already seen the prices of the most recent cap dumps be less than what we've seen in the past (e.g. Marleau, Marc Staal, etc.).

And once again, you have not provided any novel, recent examples.

 

[Diversification]

The only hope of being able to reasonably get out of Mikheyev's deal (ie less than a 1st) is if SJ feels like adding veterans like Chicago did last offseason, but even then I don't think Mikheyev has the pedigree for any sort of mentor role that Perry/Hall/Foligno have.

The other way it might play out is in an offseason change of scenery type trade - money in money out. But those are tougher to pull off. Would have to be returning a player that suits our needs while the other side needs a speedy winger with a defensive conscience.

But the list of players with matching contracts is not appealing (Chiarot, Gudbransen, Murphy) or not realistic (Tuch, Backlund).

The only player I could find that might be suitable (but not really) is JG Pageau.

 

[TruGr1t]

I now think you prioritize keeping Lindholm and Zadorov, and then work from there. Need to ditch salary to do it, and probably lose Joshua and Hronek.

 

[JohnHodgson]

I now think you prioritize keeping Lindholm and Zadorov, and then work from there. Need to ditch salary to do it, and probably lose Joshua and Hronek.

Servalli said that Zadorov thinks he can get 6 x 6 in the offseason.

That would be too much for my taste.

I hope the management team keeps a flexible outlook instead of a "keep someone at all costs" approach.

Zadorov has been great for us but we also need to be able to walk away if the price gets too crazy.

With that said, I feel like they have to keep Dakota Joshua because he won't be that expensive on an annual average basis, but he's a big body that's great on the PK and the forecheck. He's a bottom six guy who's never had any contractual stability. We can easily offer a 3.5M deal for 4/5 years - this would be fair on both sides. Joshua also has great chemistry with Garland - can plug in any centre in between them to make that a formidable third line.

 

[Blue and Green]

Dumping Dickinson's $2.65M x 2 cost a 2nd-round pick plus taking the $1.35M x 2 owed to Riley Stillman.

 

[TruGr1t]

Servalli said that Zadorov thinks he can get 6 x 6 in the offseason.

That would be too much for my taste.

I hope the management team keeps a flexible outlook instead of a "keep someone at all costs" approach.

Zadorov has been great for us but we also need to be able to walk away if the price gets too crazy.

With that said, I feel like they have to keep Dakota Joshua because he won't be that expensive on an annual average basis, but he's a big body that's great on the PK and the forecheck. He's a bottom six guy who's never had any contractual stability. We can easily offer a 3.5M deal for 4/5 years - this would be fair on both sides. Joshua also has great chemistry with Garland - can plug in any centre in between them to make that a formidable third line.

I think you can get him for slightly less because he likes playing here and the fans, and clearly has a good relationship with Tocchet. I'd hope for something closer to $5M AAV over 6.

I think they'll sign him, it's Lindholm I'm not convinced they'll be able to find the room. Especially if he's still looking for around $8M AAV. I also think if push comes to shove in terms of cap space, you go find another Joshua.

 

[racerjoe]

Dumping Dickinson's $2.65M x 2 cost a 2nd-round pick plus taking the $1.35M x 2 owed to Riley Stillman.

Stillman ended up being an asset...

 

[Blue and Green]

Stillman ended up being an asset...

Yeah, Allvin did get rid of Stillman for nothing more than the contract slot that washed-out Bloom is occupying, so effectively the entire remainder of Dickinson's contract was removed for a 2nd-round pick.

I think he'd be lucky to move Mikheyev at that cost but I was happily surprised by the Beauvillier trade so maybe I will be happily surprised again.

 

[racerjoe]

Yeah, Allvin did get rid of Stillman for nothing more than the contract slot that washed-out Bloom is occupying, so effectively the entire remainder of Dickinson's contract was removed for a 2nd-round pick.

I think he'd be lucky to move Mikheyev at that cost but I was happily surprised by the Beauvillier trade so maybe I will be happily surprised again.

Yeah I have no clue what Mik will cost to lose... the landscape around the league has changed.... but we don't know by how much.

 

[arttk]

Stillman ended up being an asset...

And Chicago decided to give Dickinson even more money lol

 

[racerjoe]

And Chicago decided to give Dickinson even more money lol

How could you not resign a 35 point guy when playing with Bedard....

 

[Joe Rogan]

Mikheyev for Nichushkin + . Avs will pay through the nose to get rid of him, and we keep our picks

 

[Vector]

Mikheyev for Nichushkin + . Avs will pay through the nose to get rid of him, and we keep our picks

Avs will almost certainly be permitted to void his contract when/if he finishes his suspension and the Player Assistance Program approves his reinstatement.

 

[lawrence]

Not sure how legit this is.

Me personally, I’m not a fan of players calling their shots. 1st line pp or 1st line has to earned.

 

[Jerry the great]

Not sure how legit this is.

Me personally, I’m not a fan of players calling their shots. 1st line pp or 1st line has to earned.

I want nothing to do with this player, or his dad. I think he'd be a great fit in Toronto though: they can swap Marty and his dad for Mitch and Paul!

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Should the Canucks do the unthinkable and trade Superstar Goalie Thatcher Demko? Think about the haul they’d get for him, the return would be incredible. He’s had a few injuries already and his durability is a bit of a concern going forward. We can sign a cheap veteran goalie to split starts with King Silovs, we should sign Silovs to a 1M x 7 year deal this offseason. Fortune favours the Bold.