Prospect Info: Canucks 2018 Prospect Rankings #15 TIEBREAKER

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BACK AGAIN with the Tiebreaker

Lockwood v. Rathbone. Both had 25 votes. 24 hours to vote.

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[thelittlecoon]

Lockwood easily. Brisebois is a much better D prospect than Rathbone. Was anybody actually impressed by Rathbone's play at the Summer Showdown? I thought he looked great in the practices and skills testing leading up to it but kinda dumb when it came to the game. His positioning is whack and he doesn't defend very well.

 

[ziploc]

If Lockwood didnt have such big injury concerns he would be higher on this list. As it stands he is still a better prospect I think than The Wrath of Bone.

 

[bossram]

I'm not really fan of either (I think MacEwen and Utunen should be long before both), but I'll go with Rathbone because it looks like Lockwood's shoulder issues may become career-debilitating.

 

[Josepho]

If Lockwood didn't have health issues I would've voted for him a whole hell of a lot higher.

 

[M2Beezy]

Locky should have gone sooner, hes a beauty. Gonna SHOCK the hockey world this coming year

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Lockwood easily. Brisebois is a much better D prospect than Rathbone. Was anybody actually impressed by Rathbone's play at the Summer Showdown? I thought he looked great in the practices and skills testing leading up to it but kinda dumb when it came to the game. His positioning is whack and he doesn't defend very well.

I voted Lockwood, but I think Rathbone should get the benefit of the doubt due to the piss poor level of LQ he has played at so far. He has some very good tools, but it's going to take a year or two at Harvard before we see if he has any kind tool box or not.

 

[StrictlyCommercial]

A guy who made the US J20 team vs. A guy who played high school hockey for his D+1 season. Jeez, tough choice. The Rathbone love based on some practices is Ron Delorme levels of scouting ineptitude.

 

[Megaterio Llamas]

Locky the Lockmonster I guess...

 

[ziploc]

Both these guys have last names that could either be British aristocrats or horrible diseases that existed before vaccinations.

 

[Cupless44]

I think MacEwen is a better prospect than both. His game and skating is vastly improving and he already had a very solid rookie season in professional hockey in the AHL.

 

[Siludin]

Lockwood easily. Brisebois is a much better D prospect than Rathbone. Was anybody actually impressed by Rathbone's play at the Summer Showdown? I thought he looked great in the practices and skills testing leading up to it but kinda dumb when it came to the game. His positioning is whack and he doesn't defend very well.

Honestly, if Rathbone's deficiencies are as you say, I predict college will iron many of those out. Your statement is pretty favorable.

I chose Lockwood for now. I expect him to have a strong year on the bounce-back, but I will be patient with his development on account of it. Whenever a prospect has a tough injury like Lockwood, I just pretend they're 1/2 a year younger.

 

[ziploc]

Honestly, if Rathbone's deficiencies are as you say, I predict college will iron many of those out. Your statement is pretty favorable.

I chose Lockwood for now. I expect him to have a strong year on the bounce-back, but I will be patient with his development on account of it. Whenever a prospect has a tough injury like Lockwood, I just pretend they're 1/2 a year younger.

So Sami Salo is still like 9 years old in your eyes?

 

[M2Beezy]

I think MacEwen is a better prospect than both. His game and skating is vastly improving and he already had a very solid rookie season in professional hockey in the AHL.

Just vote one of the two AVAILABLE options pal

 

[Icebreakers]

Lockwood here. Such a great skater, bad finisher. He's basically a skinny Hansen whose got injury concerns lol.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Locky should have gone sooner, hes a beauty. Gonna SHOCK the hockey world this coming year

I notice you like to heavily pump the tires on our B prospects (Jasek, Lockwood, Brassard), and then brag about how you've supported them all along (Gaudette). Issue is, if you throw enough crap to a wall, something will eventually stick. Your predictions carry a lot less weight when you think half of our prospects will pan out. The issue with Lockwood is similar to Rodin, injuries could very well derail his career.

I voted Lockwood because of his versatility, but man do I hope his shoulder holds up over the next few years.

 

[Melvin]

I notice you like to heavily pump the tires on our B prospects (Jasek, Lockwood, Brassard), and then brag about how you've supported them all along (Gaudette). Issue is, if you throw enough crap to a wall, something will eventually stick. Your predictions carry a lot less weight when you think half of our prospects will pan out. The issue with Lockwood is similar to Rodin, injuries could very well derail his career.

I voted Lockwood because of his versatility, but man do I hope his shoulder holds up over the next few years.

Half?

 

[M2Beezy]

Half?

Yeah exactly i think itll be more than half with how good our prospects look now, and lots others were pretty high on Gaudette early on

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Yeah exactly i think itll be more than half with how good our prospects look now, and lots others were pretty high on Gaudette early on

People also thought our prospects looked good with Jensen, Schroeder, Hodgson, Rodin, etc. Granted, we have different scouts now and higher picks, but still. Any prospect that is not a top 10 pick has a pretty high chance of not making the NHL. I'm optimistic, but we'd be lucky if 1 or 2 of the remaining prospects from these polls make it to the NHL.

 

[M2Beezy]

People also thought our prospects looked good with Jensen, Schroeder, Hodgson, Rodin, etc. Granted, we have different scouts now and higher picks, but still. Any prospect that is not a top 10 pick has a pretty high chance of not making the NHL. I'm optimistic, but we'd be lucky if 1 or 2 of the remaining prospects from these polls make it to the NHL.

Yeah but those guys were different, they couldnt have made it. Things a lot brighter now, were at 15 and still some good guys on board

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Yeah but those guys were different, they couldnt have made it. Things a lot brighter now, were at 15 and still some good guys on board

Jensen and Schroeder would have been like #5 or 6 on this list. You’re too young to remember their hype.

 

[M2Beezy]

Jensen and Schroeder would have been like #5 or 6 on this list. You’re too young to remember their hype.

I guess so but i do remember Jensen never really doing much

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I guess so but i do remember Jensen never really doing much

You can’t use hindsight for one example (Jensen) when comparing him to prospects that are still developing.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

2017	2018
10. Jonah Gadjovich	10. Michael DiPietro
11. Will Lockwood	11. Jonah Gadjovich
12. Jordan Subban	12. Petrus Palmu
13. Guillaume Brisebois	13. Lukas Jasek
14. Michael DiPietro	14. Tyler Madden
15. Zack MacEwen	15. Will Lockwood
16. Evan McEneny	16.
17. Jalen Chatfield	17.
18. Petrus Palmu	18.
19. Jack Rathbone	19.
20. Philip Holm	20.

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Likely see a battle royale between Rathbone - MacEwen - Brisebois next...

S_C

 

[WetcoastOrca]

People also thought our prospects looked good with Jensen, Schroeder, Hodgson, Rodin, etc. Granted, we have different scouts now and higher picks, but still. Any prospect that is not a top 10 pick has a pretty high chance of not making the NHL. I'm optimistic, but we'd be lucky if 1 or 2 of the remaining prospects from these polls make it to the NHL.

I agree with your last two sentences especially.

But their is a difference between this prospect group and the old ones.
The difference is that in those earlier years that was just Canuck fans overrating our prospects. Most third party prospect rankings still had the Canucks bottom third.

Now third party prospect ranking lists have us quite how. Sporting News for example has us third. So it’s not just the typical home town bias this time. Whether it works out better is still an open question but at least objective sources believe it will.

But I agree that we’d be lucky to get 1 or 2 hits with the remaining guys.