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He is not a good D
He's not an elite or even a great player, but he's definitely better than Russell and he'd be at least the second best d-man on the Oilers right now.
He is not a good D
Called this the moment Holland and Tippet were announced.
****ing morons.
He's not an elite or even a great player, but he's definitely better than Russell and he'd be at least the second best d-man on the Oilers right now.
I vehemently disagree with the notion that he'd be better than Klefbom or Nurse, whichever you're suggesting he's better than. I honestly think he's an average second pairing defenseman with huge holes in his game. He makes more errors than ANY Oiler defender.
Neither Klef nor Nurse are consistent either. Gardiner brings more consistent offense than either of them and is probably on par with Nurse in terms of defensive brainfarts (Klef is more consistent in that regard).
I watched a ton of the Leafs the last two years (not my idea) and I don't agree. Gardiner is one of the most awe-inspiring mess-up machines going.
There is obviously offensive dimension there, but he's not a strong puck mover. He's really one dimensional in ways that Klefa and Nurse aren't. I'm not even sure I would trade Adam Larsson for him at the same money because I don't think he was that much better than Adam Larsson this year. They hated him until they lost him and replaced him with nothing, but even then...
People really underestimate how assy the Leafs defense was. I believe it was worse than the Oilers, at least until Muzzin.
Nyquist to a contract people aren't going to like
Nichushkin on a 1 year
Roslovic for Puljujarvi
Are my guesses.
Smith, Chiasson, filpulla and Nyquist.
That would be a decent haul.
Why are so many people saying Alex Chiasson.
I really don't see it unless that ask is way down from what people are thinking. He's more likely to score less than 10 next year than he is to score 20. His number would have to be in the 1 range.
Chiasson, Filpulla, Nyquist.
Hopefully we have a better DVD this time.
Dallas getting Pavelksi AND Corey Perry? how slow are they trying to get?