CerebralGenesis
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Can he pass Maclean with 702 points? He needs 501 points to do so, if he play another 10 years he will likely do it in my opinion.
How bout can he crack -100 on the +/- scale? Currently a -33 with the squad.
kovy will get 100 points the next couple of seasons
That's a given(I think).....
BTW, a lousy playoffs for your namesake's. So sad for them.
If Kovy continues to play the way he is now and Lou does not get him some big time help then no. He will have injury or just wear down.
Why do people mock Kovy on here?
Here is the thing, This goes for any player...You can't sign a player to a huge dollar contract then make the claim he needs help. While it maybe 100% true that the player needs to be surrounded by quality in order to perform at his best, in most cases it is just not feasible to have one player taking 11 Million in payroll and surround him with quality unless you have a vibrant pipeline of young talented players on first or second year contracts. New Jersey doesn't.
when your other pastimes include fishing and archery, what do you expect?
Why do people mock Kovy on here?
Is it a running joke considering if he isn't in the lineup the team is literally pitiful and when he is in the lineup we are cup contenders? We just nit pick little things about him but nobody else?
You'll never hear these things about Elias and Kovy is much better than Elias...
They aren't as far apart as you think. Kovy was a sprinter that has slowed down a lot. Elias is a marathon runner.
While I do see what you're saying and agree with a lot of it, we should still be able to provide him with a better winger than Ponikarovsky, or whoever else was playing with him. Not saying he needs Malkin, but if the coach is gonna continue playing him on the right then he needs better talent than that.
oh really?
Shifted stats by age then a comparison. We won't bring up the plus minus stats because those aren't "real stats" to so many people (but Elias wins by a differential of over +300).
They aren't as far apart as you think. Kovy was a sprinter that has slowed down a lot. Elias is a marathon runner.
Here is the thing, This goes for any player...You can't sign a player to a huge dollar contract then make the claim he needs help. While it maybe 100% true that the player needs to be surrounded by quality in order to perform at his best, in most cases it is just not feasible to have one player taking 11 Million in payroll and surround him with quality unless you have a vibrant pipeline of young talented players on first or second year contracts. New Jersey doesn't.
Why do people mock Kovy on here?
Is it a running joke considering if he isn't in the lineup the team is literally pitiful and when he is in the lineup we are cup contenders? We just nit pick little things about him but nobody else?
You'll never hear these things about Elias and Kovy is much better than Elias...
Those stats are pretty wide if you examine it. Besides that, Elias played on the Devils team that won 2 cups and went to the finals 3 times in his prime. He got to play with guys like Arnott and Sykora and have teams try to shut down all the other Devils top lines.
Kovy had nobody in Atlanta so teams would play shutdown on him the whole game and his team went to the playoffs just once in his career. Even then, when looking at the stats Kovy had more points. Besides that, goal scoring is simply more valueable and you did not include that in the stats.
It isn't close and it can really be evidenced not only by stats but by just watching them play. In the short time Kovy has been here he has been significantly better than Elias. Kovalchuk is a game breaker and Elias is a really good #2 guy but he could never take over a game/series like Kovalchuk because he doesn't have the puck handling or goal scoring ability.
I think Kovy is definitely going to play out his contract. With his shot he can easily be a PP specialist in his 40s. He gets $7 million dollars in the last 2 years of the deal plus there is a chance he will likely be breaking some huge career milestones (ie 700 goals and top 10 in pts all-time).
Should be noted Kovy has been here 3.5 years. We did not make the playoffs in 2 of those years, and got booted in the 1st rnd in the 1/2 year. He also missed a grand total of 11 games this year. So it is certainly not as easy as "we are cup contenders with him and pitiful without him". Honestly If I'm looking at what was different between our 2 recent non playoff years and our one cup run it would appear to be Parise.
I agree Kovy is a game breaker. On pure physical ability it's Kovy by a wide stretch. But Elias imo, is clearly a more cerebral player, a much better defensive player, and a player who gives a more consistent effort. So he closes that pure physical gap by a decent amount.
As to why Kovy gets grief while Elias gets the love. Elias is a homegrown talent who has won 2 cups. Kovy was traded from an awful team and has been the "best player" on 2 teams that has not made the playoffs while in NJ.
Not trying to attack Kovy here either. I'm a fan. Just trying to give an honest critque.
And if he ever learned to use his size and leg strength the way Jagr does that would help his longevity as well.
Should be noted Kovy has been here 3.5 years. We did not make the playoffs in 2 of those years, and got booted in the 1st rnd in the 1/2 year. He also missed a grand total of 11 games this year. So it is certainly not as easy as "we are cup contenders with him and pitiful without him". Honestly If I'm looking at what was different between our 2 recent non playoff years and our one cup run it would appear to be Parise.
Kovy and Jagr are completely different players. It is embarrassing how much fans on here and those who sat near me in the arena criticize every little thing Kovy does "wrong".