Calgary Parallels

[greasy goals]

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/2013/03/28/cox_jarome_iginla_trade_get_calgary_flames_too_little_too_late.html

Read this article about the Iginla trade. Use a mental filter to pretend they're talking about the Canucks, our GM, and our failure to trade our vets. Everything matches. Everything!

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[FroshaugFan2]

Hanowski and Agotino helped their age gap though.

 

[DL44]

There's a stretch.
People love the Flames of 4-5 yrs ago vs Canucks today comparison tho...

Canucks are starting from a much better prospect pool tho...

 

[opendoor]

There's a stretch.
People love the Flames of 4-5 yrs ago vs Canucks today comparison tho...

Canucks are starting from a much better prospect pool tho...

Better depth, sure. But I don't see any current Canucks prospects equivalent to Gaudreau. Not to mention they'd get Monahan a few months after that article.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Better depth, sure. But I don't see any current Canucks prospects equivalent to Gaudreau. Not to mention they'd get Monahan a few months after that article.

meh one could argue Demko is just as important a prospect. The Flames are in goaltending hell. I'm just glad they passed on Demko.

 

[Eddy Punch Clock]

Miller rhymes with Hiller.

 

[Addison Rae]

meh one could argue Demko is just as important a prospect. The Flames are in goaltending hell. I'm just glad they passed on Demko.

Jon Gillies is actually very comparable to Demko. But, yeah passing on Demko for MacDonald was pretty funny.

 

[DL44]

Better depth, sure. But I don't see any current Canucks prospects equivalent to Gaudreau. Not to mention they'd get Monahan a few months after that article.

That's true.

August 2012 - Flames prospect list by Pronman..

Calgary Flames Top 10 Prospects

1. Sven Baertschi, Left Wing
2. Roman Cervenka, Center
3. John Gaudreau, Left Wing
4. Markus Granlund, Center
5. Mark Jankowski, Center
6. Max Reinhart, Center
7. Bill Arnold, Center
8. Brady Lamb, Defense
9. Greg Nemisz, Right Wing
10.Michael Ferland, Left Wing


At least we are working from a solid NHL caliber base of Horvat, Hutton, Virtanen, and McCann...
Gaunce we're seeing now...
The next tier of potential is Demko, Boeser, Tryamkin, Pedan.

A few NHL caliber 23 yrs olds in Baertschi, Granlund, Etem...

After this season Edler will be our oldest dman.


Current Flames top 10 :
1. Shinkaruk
2. Poirier
3. Klimchuk
4. Gilles
5. Wotherspoon
6. Kylington
7. Hickey
8. Andersson
9. Jankowski
10. Mangiapane

Prime graduated prospects- Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett..

 

[Josepho]

its a lazy comparable tbh. its like comparing every bottom feeder to edmonton. i think we have a much better youth pool, and i dont think benning will trade a 1st for a guy like olli jokinen.

 

[fancouver]

That's true.

August 2012 - Flames prospect list by Pronman..

Calgary Flames Top 10 Prospects

1. Sven Baertschi, Left Wing
2. Roman Cervenka, Center
3. John Gaudreau, Left Wing
4. Markus Granlund, Center
5. Mark Jankowski, Center
6. Max Reinhart, Center
7. Bill Arnold, Center
8. Brady Lamb, Defense
9. Greg Nemisz, Right Wing
10.Michael Ferland, Left Wing


At least we are working from a solid NHL caliber base of Horvat, Hutton, Virtanen, and McCann...
Gaunce we're seeing now...
The next tier of potential is Demko, Boeser, Tryamkin, Pedan.

A few NHL caliber 23 yrs olds in Baertschi, Granlund, Etem...

After this season Edler will be our oldest dman.


Current Flames top 10 :
1. Shinkaruk
2. Poirier
3. Klimchuk
4. Gilles
5. Wotherspoon
6. Kylington
7. Hickey
8. Andersson
9. Jankowski
10. Mangiapane

Prime graduated prospects- Gaudreau, Monahan, Bennett..

Shinkaruk is now their top prospect?

 

[DL44]

Shinkaruk is now their top prospect?

You see their list? Yeah... apparently he is (from one source at least - HF)


I personally like the Hockeywriters list that has Gilles as their top prospect. (pre-Shink)
I don't think they would put Shink ahead of Gilles on their list..

from pre season..

 

[VanJack]

The Flames of five years ago versus the Canucks today?..hmm....well we do have Weisbrod...if Jay Feaster isn't far behind, then you could be right.

 

[fancouver]

You see their list? Yeah... apparently he is (from one source at least - HF)


I personally like the Hockeywriters list that has Gilles as their top prospect. (pre-Shink)
I don't think they would put Shink ahead of Gilles on their list..

from pre season..

I don't know if that tells more about Calgary than what we should have gotten back in the trade.

 

[CorySchneids]

I don't know if that tells more about Calgary than what we should have gotten back in the trade.

Hopefully we went after Kylington..

 

[The Drop]

That flames prospect list is no different than the current Canuck list.

Every prospect looks great a year or 2 after they're drafted. Let's come back to this in 3 years when almost all of them aren't in the NHL

 

[Seattle Totems]

The parallel is that the Flames core was getting old and it was time to rebuild but management refused to do anything which meant no playoffs and middling draft picks. Exactly the same situation the Canucks are currently in.

 

[Nucker101]

The parallel is that the Flames core was getting old and it was time to rebuild but management refused to do anything which meant no playoffs and middling draft picks. Exactly the same situation the Canucks are currently in.

To be fair, they tried to sell this year but failed to execute(Hamhuis) and didn't have interest(Vrbata).



But to add to the similarities, Hamhuis situation was eerily similar to the Mike Cammalleri one with Calgary.

 

[Fat Tony]

Phaneuf and Kesler were both traded for spare parts which include 3rd rate Dmen that were then resigned to bizarre contracts.

 

[Hit the post]

The parallel is that the Flames core was getting old

They didn't have two legit 1st liners like the Sedins. Even if their past their prime, they can still carry a team for a period of time during a season IMHO.

 

[me2]

The parallels are good. Our only hope is we outdraft of general mangers incoherence incompetence at actual management. When you look at what this team could have looked like with competent managing adding a lot more quality picks and pickups vs what it is now it is incredibly frustrating. At least fate is conspiring to mitigate some of Benning's incompetence.

 

[Jack Tripper]

the guy on the left is the most relevant comparable

 

[oyvey]

Johnny Gaudreau was a fourth-round pick. I would hope Benning could at least out-draft Jay Feaster?