Series Discussion: Calgary Flames vs Dallas Stars (Flames win Series 4-3 in OT)
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Deen
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Sports don't work that way. I expect a hard fought series with our size being the difference. Robertson is going to be a handful and they are legit on the back end. I want to say Flames in 5, but it depends on Oettinger. If he stands on his head it's going to be a goalie duel and could go 6 or 7.
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Flames in 5. I think Dallas gets one home win, also because I will miss most of game 4 because of stupid softball so I would rather watch them close it out in 5 (at home) then miss game 4, although I would welcome the sweep.
Dallas has a negative goal differential and the fewest ROW of anyone in the playoffs, the Flames should not lose this series.
Dallas has a negative goal differential and the fewest ROW of anyone in the playoffs, the Flames should not lose this series.
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TheHudlinator
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We better f***ing beat these guys. No excuses.
Nanuuk
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It is hard to predict. Flames in 7.
I know that is an outlier prediction, but we always have trouble with trapping, heavy teams.
The Stars have way more size up front than we do and they've got pretty good size on the D as well.
Pavelski is a Flames killer, Radulov is too.
Oettinger is the wildcard. While his stats can't match Markstrom he is only 23. Meaning if he is feeling his oats, Dallas could be a tough out, TSN talking heads notwithstanding.
I know that is an outlier prediction, but we always have trouble with trapping, heavy teams.
The Stars have way more size up front than we do and they've got pretty good size on the D as well.
Pavelski is a Flames killer, Radulov is too.
Oettinger is the wildcard. While his stats can't match Markstrom he is only 23. Meaning if he is feeling his oats, Dallas could be a tough out, TSN talking heads notwithstanding.
Anglesmith
Setting up the play?
Yeah, as much as we are the better team, Dallas is going to clog things up and make every game a slog. It's going to be very important to play with the lead.
Mobiandi
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They don't create much but they always convert their chances
Bounces R Way
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Wonder if Darryl matches up our top line against these guys or puts Backlund on it.
We struggle getting to the inside against this blueline, I don't expect a ton of rush chances. Bowness is a conservative coach, the Stars force dump ins and counter punch. They're a big team but not especially fast outside a couple players. Need Johnny and Tkachuk to step up and be the superstars they have been all season.
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Dertell
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These are the Stars. Like it or not, they'll at least win one game 3-2, take a 4-0 beating, and two games will end with a 4-1 score.
Game #1: Flames 4-1
Game #2: Stars 3-2
Game #3: Stars 4-1
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This is where we'll see people come up with reasonable takes about Gaudreau and Tkachuk.
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Game #4: Flames 5-4
Game #5: Flames 4-3
Game #6: Flames 4-0
I bet the Flames in 6, but this is only because the Stars kind of suck, not because I'm oozing confidence. The flames have been consistently elite defensively over the year (45-48 CA60, outside of a slump in December/early January), but their xGF60 is free falling.
They were 3rd in January (3.45). <- a completely unsustainable number
1st in February (3.09)
8th in March (2.81)
13rd in April (2.64). Somewhere around 3.56 xGF60 in the first five games, but that is a very small sample size involving many bad possession teams (minus the kings, but they had low 5-on-5 numbers during that time).
31st in the last ten games (2.17). Some of this could be attributed to not playing for a whole lot, but between their not-goaltending lineup decisions and watching them play, nothing substantiates they weren't trying.
I'm just hoping they don't lose against the Oilers because that would be embarrassing. I bet they'll win in 7 against the kings, so we'll end up facing them in all likelihood.
Game #1: Flames 4-1
Game #2: Stars 3-2
Game #3: Stars 4-1
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This is where we'll see people come up with reasonable takes about Gaudreau and Tkachuk.
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Game #4: Flames 5-4
Game #5: Flames 4-3
Game #6: Flames 4-0
I bet the Flames in 6, but this is only because the Stars kind of suck, not because I'm oozing confidence. The flames have been consistently elite defensively over the year (45-48 CA60, outside of a slump in December/early January), but their xGF60 is free falling.
They were 3rd in January (3.45). <- a completely unsustainable number
1st in February (3.09)
8th in March (2.81)
13rd in April (2.64). Somewhere around 3.56 xGF60 in the first five games, but that is a very small sample size involving many bad possession teams (minus the kings, but they had low 5-on-5 numbers during that time).
31st in the last ten games (2.17). Some of this could be attributed to not playing for a whole lot, but between their not-goaltending lineup decisions and watching them play, nothing substantiates they weren't trying.
I'm just hoping they don't lose against the Oilers because that would be embarrassing. I bet they'll win in 7 against the kings, so we'll end up facing them in all likelihood.
TheHudlinator
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This is series I'd want Backlund and Coleman back together and against their top line. I'd put Dube with them as he has good counter attack speed. Put Mangiapane, toffoli, and Ruzicka against their 3rd line and let them feast
Wonder if Darryl matches up our top line against these guys or puts Backlund on it.
We struggle getting to the inside against this blueline, I don't expect a ton of rush chances. Bowness is a conservative coach, the Stars force dump ins and counter punch. They're a big team but not especially fast outside a couple players. Need Johnny and Tkachuk to step up and be the superstars they have been all season.
I kind of am hoping the Preds really beat up on Colorado. They are the team I don't think we can beat. Let them enjoy the Preds and Wild before they play us.
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I'd be pretty surprised to see Ruzicka in this series but you never know. Little too up and down in his games this year, especially defensively.
They seem set on making Jarnkrok the 3C even though both Dube and Ruz have been better there this year.
Volica
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Flames in 4 or 5.
Don’t like that Stars forward depth, goaltending or defensive corps.
Again, Calgary can and will shit the bed come playoff time.
Don’t like that Stars forward depth, goaltending or defensive corps.
Again, Calgary can and will shit the bed come playoff time.
TheHudlinator
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I think it's really going to come down to penalties, we have seen this team get into penalty trouble before and let teams get back into games we should have been in control of.
Mazatt
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Just using last series as a reference point; injuries, defensive coverage of the points/house, and goaltending is what killed the Flames imo. I genuinely think a fully healthy Flames in 2020 takes Dallas out, given the tight games w/o Tkachuk being able to impact them.
The major thing that's different this year by my eye is that the Flames are going to be more capable of gameplanning to cover the Stars defensemen from getting free point shots in (the Sutter vs. Ward difference is going to be astounding) as well as new personnel like Coleman are going to be able to cover that assignment better. That's kind of where I'm wary of Toffoli sticking with a guy like Klingberg but we'll see.
Otherwise game 6 goaltending was a letdown (as was Ward's decision-making/the teams own clutch ability). I think all of those facets are much improved this season. It's going to come down to being able to execute game plans to take Dallas' D out of the play, and having either Backlund/Lindholm's lines outplay or break even with the Hintz line, since after that point the Flames have the on-paper advantage.
Kind of think they should use Mangiapane - Backlund - Coleman deployment to matchup hard against Hintz defensively in home games but it is what it is, I got faith in Sutter
The major thing that's different this year by my eye is that the Flames are going to be more capable of gameplanning to cover the Stars defensemen from getting free point shots in (the Sutter vs. Ward difference is going to be astounding) as well as new personnel like Coleman are going to be able to cover that assignment better. That's kind of where I'm wary of Toffoli sticking with a guy like Klingberg but we'll see.
Otherwise game 6 goaltending was a letdown (as was Ward's decision-making/the teams own clutch ability). I think all of those facets are much improved this season. It's going to come down to being able to execute game plans to take Dallas' D out of the play, and having either Backlund/Lindholm's lines outplay or break even with the Hintz line, since after that point the Flames have the on-paper advantage.
Kind of think they should use Mangiapane - Backlund - Coleman deployment to matchup hard against Hintz defensively in home games but it is what it is, I got faith in Sutter
Bjornar Moxnes
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One thing I want to note is based on stat checking and going on Dallas Stars forum section, Benn, Seguin, Klingberg, and Faksa have all gotten worse since the 2020 run, while Heiskanen's offense hasn't been as strong as back then either. Radulov has more or less just completely lost it. It also seems Bowness' system is worse. So while Stars added Robertson, Pavelski, and Hintz having a fantastic season, ultimately the consensus from them is the team is worse than 2020. Not to mention goaltending isn't as much of a strength as 2020 either.
Flames have been much more improved since 2020 as well. So while I still don't think we should take them lightly by any means, the truth is Dallas as a whole is not as good as 2020, while Flames have much improved.
Flames have been much more improved since 2020 as well. So while I still don't think we should take them lightly by any means, the truth is Dallas as a whole is not as good as 2020, while Flames have much improved.
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Hoping the Flames take this one. You've got all the pieces for a solid run. Would love to see a BoA in round 2.
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