C Samuel Helenius - JYP Jyväskylä, Liiga (2021, 59th, LAK)

[ChicagoBullsFan]

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[JabbaJabba]

Samuel is going to be a huge player, that's for sure. Is he any good though?

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Helenius is making his Liiga debut tonight as 3C for JYP

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Hoping he is not another Teemu Riihijärvi...

 

[JJTT]

Gotta love this kid, 17 year old and clearly the most physical player on the ice. His skating actually looks very solid for someone 199cm tall. Playing on the pk in his first game as well.

True dark horse prospect for 2021.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[JabbaJabba]

2021 draft is actually looking pretty good for the Finns.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

Son of the old Flame?

 

[CLW]

Son of the old Flame?

Yes. Sami Helenius.

 

[FLAMESFAN]

I liked him, but hopefully he doesn't have his old man's feet

 

[CLW]

I liked him, but hopefully he doesn't have his old man's feet

He was the fastest player on his team (men's league) as a 17 yo last night according to some metric program.

 

[JabbaJabba]

He was the fastest player on his team (men's league) as a 17 yo last night according to some metric program.

That is pretty crazy when you take into account his size.

 

[Kiekura]

That is pretty crazy when you take into account his size.

Fast straight skating. He isn't super explosive

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

mtv
Samuel Helenius's 2nd SM liiga goal.

 

[Lotusflower]

Finndros. Hope this guy blows up.

 

[APVJ]

Better than Aatu Räty!

 

[Pardus]

Will be interesting to see how high he goes in the draft. Now leading Finnish league 2021 prospects in scoring with 2+1 while the others remain with zero points.

 

[Albatros]

Can't see that much interesting apart of the size, limited bottom six potential in the NHL if he learns to use it well.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Helenius is playing big minutes and scoring decently for his age, but i dont see any top 6 potential. No clue where he ends up in draft. Gonna be fun to see

 

[Ippenator]

It’s so stupid how this nowadays skating fetish has turned around player evaluation close to blindness towards many other player abilities. In reality a player of Helenius’s size, with his skating and otherwise quite good skills should definitely go in the 1st or 2nd round, at least if he can continue scoring with the pace that he is scoring at the moment.

This waterbug hockey admiring is honestly really starting to get on my nerves. Seems like almost every hockey fan only looks at skating and even can’t judge that at all right. When the player is big, fans almost always judge the skating somehow weak and the player not interesting.

Sure it’s impossible for a really big player to ever be as agile as some smaller waterbug type of a player is. But on the other hand they compensate a lot with their long reach and also with the straight line speed that bigger sized players very often have better than a bit smaller players. And anyway the most important ability for any player by a mile is hockey IQ which doesn’t have anything to do with what size the player is.

If the bigger player has good hockey IQ, he will be always the better player than a smaller player, if the smaller player has the worse hockey IQ. Even their skating doesn’t matter much then.

Helenius seems to have pretty good hockey IQ and his skating is also surprisingly good for a huge 197 cm tall player. I think it is in fact pretty unlikely that all the NHL teams are so mesmerized with the silly waterbug-fetish that not a single one of the teams wouldn’t be willing to take a bit of a risk with drafting a player like Helenius around the end of the 1st round or at least in the 2nd round.

 

[Legend Leinonen]

So, another goal today. Played also PK at dying minutes of third, in a game JYP eventually lost on shootouts, 2-1.

 

[DropTheGloves]

It’s so stupid how this nowadays skating fetish has turned around player evaluation close to blindness towards many other player abilities. In reality a player of Helenius’s size, with his skating and otherwise quite good skills should definitely go in the 1st or 2nd round, at least if he can continue scoring with the pace that he is scoring at the moment.

This waterbug hockey admiring is honestly really starting to get on my nerves. Seems like almost every hockey fan only looks at skating and even can’t judge that at all right. When the player is big, fans almost always judge the skating somehow weak and the player not interesting.

Sure it’s impossible for a really big player to ever be as agile as some smaller waterbug type of a player is. But on the other hand they compensate a lot with their long reach and also with the straight line speed that bigger sized players very often have better than a bit smaller players. And anyway the most important ability for any player by a mile is hockey IQ which doesn’t have anything to do what size the player is.

If the bigger player has good hockey IQ, he will be always the better player than a smaller player, if the smaller player has the worse hockey IQ. Even their skating doesn’t matter much then.

Helenius seems to have pretty good hockey IQ and his skating is also surprisingly good for a huge 197 cm tall player. I think it is in fact pretty unlikely that all the NHL teams are so mesmerized with the silly waterbug-fetish that not a single one of the teams wouldn’t be willing to take a bit of a risk with drafting a player like Helenius around the end of the 1st round or at least in the 2nd round.

Rasmussen going top ten just three years ago is a good sign to me that players like Helenius will continue to draw interest in the first round. He just has too many qualities of a potential pro for 30+ teams to pass on him, especially if you're one of those clubs with multiple first rounders.

 

[ddlennon]

While hes team seemingly falls apart him most games hes still really consistent especially impressive on the pk will be interesting to see where he gets drafted