C Samuel Helenius - JYP Jyväskylä, Liiga (2021, 59th, LAK)

[wings5]

Marc Staal type? I'm also interested to see how he does, mainly on faceoffs.

 

[RememberTheName]

Probably meant Jordan

 

[FLAMESFAN]

Too many Staal's, lol. Hey, Dmen can take FO's too!

 

[ValeriKamensky]

Fans around the world tell about "Size doesn't mean anything in the modern NHL". But if you take a look at top20 scorers in previous 3 seasons, you should notice that only 7 players are under 6'1. Of course too big players have some troubles - speed, agility, but this is obviously not about Helenius. He`s absolutely a beast. If he can slightly improve his puck skills he will become absolutely legit candidate for top-15 in this weak draft.

 

[JJTT]

Incorrect.

And why is that? He's been playing on the 4th line on the first practices.

 

[tellermine]

Ah. So pleasant surprice.
He is far from his dad and this time it is a good thing.
He can skate already and is smart.
Lots of potential here.
Sure he needs to develop in every aspect to be good NHL player but for a kid of his body he sure looks promising as he has two of the most important parts in goid form, skating and smarts. Not to many these around.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[wings5]

Did not dominate Jr. A and now is a more than servicable Liiga player. He also looks like a decent skater. Will be interested to see how he does against players his own age.

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[Bounces R Way]

I like him. Not sure if I like him for the top 30, not too familiar with next year's draft yet. But I think he's looked at least like a candidate to go early 2nd.

 

[jonlin]

A 6'6 powerforward. What team doesnt want that. He actually is surprisingly good and have decent speed for his size. Usually young boys this big are slower. I bet when he bulks up and get some more muscle he will be faster and a pain to play against in corners and infront of the net. I predict he goes 1st rnd 20+ or latest 2nd rnd -15th

 

[Patrik Barkov]

Probably won't be a superstar but definitely looks like one of the most surefire future NHL-players from this draft at the moment. If I had to predict right now I'd say late first round safe pick.

 

[jonlin]

Probably won't be a superstar but definitely looks like one of the most surefire future NHL-players from this draft at the moment. If I had to predict right now I'd say late first round safe pick.

I have him being a 3rd line grinder and PP-netprescence with PK-skill. I`m betting on him having a NHL-career scoring 25-40p/yr. Not the fastest or mot skilled player, but high-IQ and reliable worker with impressive size. Very tough to play against when gain more muscles in the corners and infront of net. There has to be a Chara 2.0 to remove a guy with that frame

 

[m0pe]

He looks like a future NHLer...but don't see any more than bottom-6 C upside.

Hard to take a guy like that with a 1st imo. But could make for a good pick in the later half of the 2nd.

Wouldn't shock me at all if a GM who values his size and two-way play takes him late 1st though.

 

[jonlin]

He looks like a future NHLer...but don't see any more than bottom-6 C upside.

Hard to take a guy like that with a 1st imo. But could make for a good pick in the later half of the 2nd.

Wouldn't shock me at all if a GM who values his size and two-way play takes him late 1st though.

A bottom 6C with picks 20-40 is good though. Usually most of thoose picks doesnt turn into an NHL-player even. With his size and defensive abilities + ok offensive game, I`m pretty sure he gets picked before #40.

 

[m0pe]

A bottom 6C with picks 20-40 is good though. Usually most of thoose picks doesnt turn into an NHL-player even. With his size and defensive abilities + ok offensive game, I`m pretty sure he gets picked before #40.

I just don't think spending your main pick of the draft looking to fill a bottom-6 C spot is the way to go (even if that is on a very likely solid NHLer).

In the grand scheme of things, a guy like that will be one of the best 40 players to come out of the draft. I would just rather swing on the guy who has higher impact potential but may bust than play it safe in round 1.

On where he is picked, I expect you are right though.

 

[Eye of Ra]

hopefully red wings get him. him and söderblom on the same line!

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He looks like a future NHLer...but don't see any more than bottom-6 C upside.

Hard to take a guy like that with a 1st imo. But could make for a good pick in the later half of the 2nd.

Wouldn't shock me at all if a GM who values his size and two-way play takes him late 1st though.

I think this covers it.

 

[Zub]

He's basically a poor mans Byfield that's even bigger. I hope he carries the mean game torch from his father, will be a cool prospect to follow.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He's basically a poor mans Byfield that's even bigger. I hope he carries the mean game torch from his father, will be a cool prospect to follow.

What about a poor man’s Rasmussen? Or something like Martin Hanzal, if he hits his ceiling?

 

[Appleyard]

Over 1000 words on his game.

Solid player. Compared him to Brian Boyle... not just for the size, but skill-set. (though he is a better skater.)

Scouting Report: Samuel Helenius - Smaht Scouting

 

[ChicagoBullsFan]

 

[tellermine]

I think Helenius will be a project.
The question mark is, like usually with huge players, his skating.
Can he get it to good level? If so he could be quite a valuable player.
Or just another Hartikainen. (Was it Hartikainen that Edmonton Mountain that just was to slow to NHL? Had tools, grit etc, but that speed... )

 

[Kiekura]

I think Helenius will be a project.
The question mark is, like usually with huge players, his skating.
Can he get it to good level? If so he could be quite a valuable player.
Or just another Hartikainen. (Was it Hartikainen that Edmonton Mountain that just was to slow to NHL? Had tools, grit etc, but that speed... )

Pretty sure skating won't be problem. His skating is right now decent. Never going to be fastest guy, but i dont really see that he isn't going to get in NHL because of skating