C Miroslav Satan - HC Slovan Bratislava U20, SVK 20 (2024 Draft)

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Ivan Ivan and Marcel Marcel on the same team would be a blast!
sorry I know this is old but I forgot to say, but his name is actually Ivan Ivan Ivan lol
 

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Fun fact: patronyms were the main thing in Sweden up until 1901.

What that means is that if your parents had patronymic lastnames(most common if you didn't come from nobility) you would get one as well.

So you would get a last name that was your father's name + (s)son or (s)dotter. The s is dependant on if your father's name ends with s or not, grammar, that is. So if your father's name was Carl your last name would be, depending on gender, Carlsson or Carlsdotter. Which means Carl's son, and Carl's dotter(daughter). Andersson means Anders' son.

My lastname comes from an ancestor who decided to change his when he moved away from home(as one could when he did so). Why?

His name was Carl. His father's name was Carl. Grandpa? Carl. And you know what that means! A lineage of Carl Carlsson's.
Yeah I had no idea that this was a thing until I dated an Icelandic girl. They were (s)dottir, though.
 

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His season is over, got 31 pts (14 g) in 27 games and had a +/- of +15. Missed a bunch of games (including the U18 tourney) due to injury. All in all just OK when compared to other players of his class and probably wouldn't attract NHL scouts interest if there wasn't something special about him.

But there is something special. 6'7 forwards are rare in the NHL.

There's Matt Rempe of course who had a promising draft year in the WHL (31 pts in 47 games in 19/20 season) but then seemed to have regressed later (23 pts in 56 games in 21/22). Remains to be seen whether he'll stick around the NHL.

After that it's hard to find anyone at 6'7 or taller (defensemen excluded). There's just half a dozen 6'6 forwards in the NHL - Tage Thompson, Rasmussen and Bjugstad being the most notable ones, all 1st round picks.

Rasmussen had the best draft year stats posting PPG in the WHL, Thompson was just under PPG in the NCAA and Bjugstad tore up a minor junior league in Minessota with over 2 PPG. None of them had notable showings in international tournaments.

I think that had Satan played in WHL last year he could have posted numbers similar to Rempe (0.5 PPG)

Currently listed as #50 European prospect for the 2024 draft, I'd be confident to see him picked in 5th or 6th round.
 
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His season is over, got 31 pts (14 g) in 27 games and had a +/- of +15. Missed a bunch of games (including the U18 tourney) due to injury. All in all just OK when compared to other players of his class and probably wouldn't attract NHL scouts interest if there wasn't something special about him.

But there is something special. 6'7 forwards are rare in the NHL.

There's Matt Rempe of course who had a promising draft year in the WHL (31 pts in 47 games in 19/20 season) but then seemed to have regressed later (23 pts in 56 games in 21/22). Remains to be seen whether he'll stick around the NHL.

After that it's hard to find anyone at 6'7 or taller (defensemen excluded). There's just half a dozen 6'6 forwards in the NHL - Tage Thompson, Rasmussen and Bjugstad being the most notable ones, all 1st round picks.

Rasmussen had the best draft year stats posting PPG in the WHL, Thompson was just under PPG in the NCAA and Bjugstad tore up a minor junior league in Minessota with over 2 PPG. None of them had notable showings in international tournaments.

I think that had Satan played in WHL last year he could have posted numbers similar to Rempe (0.5 PPG)

Currently listed as #50 European prospect for the 2024 draft, I'd be confident to see him picked in 5th or 6th round.
The dad is always a factor too. If his last name wasn’t Satan, I don’t think he’d be ranked anywhere near this high. Size alone doesn’t justify it.
 

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The dad is always a factor too. If his last name wasn’t Satan, I don’t think he’d be ranked anywhere near this high. Size alone doesn’t justify it.
Nah, this kid can play. There is a chance for late rounds, even though I wouldn't exactly bet on it. A lot will depend on the upcoming U18s
 
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The dad is always a factor too. If his last name wasn’t Satan, I don’t think he’d be ranked anywhere near this high. Size alone doesn’t justify it.
He's definitely worth looking at regardless of name. It's impossible to find videos of his play but if you just watch the sequence in reply #40 you'll see he's got
  • suprisingly good straight line accelleration as he outskates all players to cover that rushing forward letting his two team mates strip the other player off of his puck, nice smooth stride for a big guy
  • good anticipation - doesn't hesitate a second to turn and accelerate to deny the rush after the bad pass from his wing
  • good positioning both on defense and offense - he drifts into a free position three times in that clip (at the beginning when his wing whiffs the pass then twice taking a shot scoring the second time)
  • excelent compete rushing goal-line to goal-line twice in the clip
Too bad it doesn't show him carrying the puck and passing or any board work, I'd really like to see it. The one downside I see in that clip is his wrister being a bit slow. I bet he'd be a more prolific scorer if he could release faster.

Anyway, if this is how he typically plays then you are getting a huge high-compete center who can skate surprisingly well and is positionally sound both on offense and defense, but needs to work on his shot and hasn't been tested in a top tier junior competition.
 

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He's definitely worth looking at regardless of name. It's impossible to find videos of his play but if you just watch the sequence in reply #40 you'll see he's got
  • suprisingly good straight line accelleration as he outskates all players to cover that rushing forward letting his two team mates strip the other player off of his puck, nice smooth stride for a big guy
  • good anticipation - doesn't hesitate a second to turn and accelerate to deny the rush after the bad pass from his wing
  • good positioning both on defense and offense - he drifts into a free position three times in that clip (at the beginning when his wing whiffs the pass then twice taking a shot scoring the second time)
  • excelent compete rushing goal-line to goal-line twice in the clip
Too bad it doesn't show him carrying the puck and passing or any board work, I'd really like to see it. The one downside I see in that clip is his wrister being a bit slow. I bet he'd be a more prolific scorer if he could release faster.

Anyway, if this is how he typically plays then you are getting a huge high-compete center who can skate surprisingly well and is positionally sound both on offense and defense, but needs to work on his shot and hasn't been tested in a top tier junior competition.
I’ve only watched him in international play and he really wasn’t great there.
 

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Just for the LOLs, Buffalo should be on this since Miro and Lindy got on so famously.

(Seriously though, Miro was well-liked by people and was a good person off the ice. I've never heard anything but compliments about how he dealt with his neighbors and folks around town unlike say... Kozlov.)
 

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People in Slovakia greatly underestimate this boy, almost everyone. And it´s happening only in our country and I don´t quite understand why. Unfortunately he started to play hockey late (at 13) but right now he´s getting better quickly and still has so many areas where he can improve.

Yes, to this day he´s not very admirable player but until he´s 24-25 you have no idea what kind of player he can be beacuse these tall players always need more time to develop. For example Satan desperately needs to hit the gym because he´s still very thin and weak. He´s very far from the finished product of course and if NHL team tries the risk with this type of player in late rounds and it doesn't work out it´s not a mistake.

Take a look on Elmer Soderblom´s draft season profile and still, Detroit took him in 6th round and how worthy it was. For almost this entire season I see Satan jr. as probably the only drafted Slovak player.
 
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People in Slovakia greatly underestimate this boy, almost everyone. And it´s happening only in our country and I don´t quite understand why. Unfortunately he started to play hockey late (at 13) but right now he´s getting better quickly and still has so many areas where he can improve.

Yes, to this day he´s not very admirable player but until he´s 24-25 you have no idea what kind of player he can be beacuse these tall players always need more time to develop. For example Satan desperately needs to hit the gym because he´s still very thin and weak. He´s very far from the finished product of course and if NHL team tries the risk with this type of player in late rounds and it doesn't work out it´s not a mistake.

Take a look on Elmer Soderblom´s draft season profile and still, Detroit took him in 6th round and how worthy it was. For almost this entire season I see Satan jr. as probably the only drafted Slovak player.
He can be the Slovak Rempe
 

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People in Slovakia greatly underestimate this boy, almost everyone. And it´s happening only in our country and I don´t quite understand why. Unfortunately he started to play hockey late (at 13) but right now he´s getting better quickly and still has so many areas where he can improve.

Yes, to this day he´s not very admirable player but until he´s 24-25 you have no idea what kind of player he can be beacuse these tall players always need more time to develop. For example Satan desperately needs to hit the gym because he´s still very thin and weak. He´s very far from the finished product of course and if NHL team tries the risk with this type of player in late rounds and it doesn't work out it´s not a mistake.

Take a look on Elmer Soderblom´s draft season profile and still, Detroit took him in 6th round and how worthy it was. For almost this entire season I see Satan jr. as probably the only drafted Slovak player.

I didn't know he started playing so late. That's really weird considering his dad is a slovak hockey legend and szlh president.
 

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People in Slovakia greatly underestimate this boy, almost everyone. And it´s happening only in our country and I don´t quite understand why. Unfortunately he started to play hockey late (at 13) but right now he´s getting better quickly and still has so many areas where he can improve.

Yes, to this day he´s not very admirable player but until he´s 24-25 you have no idea what kind of player he can be beacuse these tall players always need more time to develop. For example Satan desperately needs to hit the gym because he´s still very thin and weak. He´s very far from the finished product of course and if NHL team tries the risk with this type of player in late rounds and it doesn't work out it´s not a mistake.

Take a look on Elmer Soderblom´s draft season profile and still, Detroit took him in 6th round and how worthy it was. For almost this entire season I see Satan jr. as probably the only drafted Slovak player.
the getting into hockey at age 13 is interesting - any idea what was he doing before that?

even though satan was at the end of his rope with the bruins, i'll always remember his playoff OT winner and the weird dance he did afterwards.
 

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I watched him in the QF match against Czechia and he was a key player in the Slovak win.
Excellent positioning, compete/work rate and anticipation.
Surprisingly good speed, skating, athleticism and face offs.
Average physical play and shot.
Below average stick handling and passing.
Here are some interesting sequences from the game (he's wearing no. 18):

16:40 (YouTube mark, not game time) is a good display of his positioning and defensive play - the Czechs do quick passing and rotation in the Slovak zóne, but Satan is always cutting off the best passing lane and is getting closer to the puck with each successive pass until he wins the puck.

1:04:32 shows both pros and cons. Satan tries to enter the zone with finesse but stick handles himself into a dead end but then never lets up, wins the puck twice, skates into an open position and gets a shot on goal.

His speed is really surprising for the tallest player of the tournament.
1:27:58 is a straight acceleration contest with a Czech player. Satan catches up with him and disrupts the play.
1:19:55 comes off the bench, notices a Czech player getting into position and accelerates to deny him a scoring chance. He then spends a minute without the puck but never stops until he creates a turn over at 1:20:50 that leads to a goal. Excellent athleticism and compete.
1:58:54 excellent shift on his part as he skates up and down the whole length of the ring three times and is involved in every important play.

I think he's an excellent prospect for a specialist role - checking line and PK. He could become a power forward if he works on his shot and ups the physical play. His skating ability is unreal for a player of his size.
 

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I watched him in the QF match against Czechia and he was a key player in the Slovak win.
Excellent positioning, compete/work rate and anticipation.
Surprisingly good speed, skating, athleticism and face offs.
Average physical play and shot.
Below average stick handling and passing.
Here are some interesting sequences from the game (he's wearing no. 18):

16:40 (YouTube mark, not game time) is a good display of his positioning and defensive play - the Czechs do quick passing and rotation in the Slovak zóne, but Satan is always cutting off the best passing lane and is getting closer to the puck with each successive pass until he wins the puck.

1:04:32 shows both pros and cons. Satan tries to enter the zone with finesse but stick handles himself into a dead end but then never lets up, wins the puck twice, skates into an open position and gets a shot on goal.

His speed is really surprising for the tallest player of the tournament.
1:27:58 is a straight acceleration contest with a Czech player. Satan catches up with him and disrupts the play.
1:19:55 comes off the bench, notices a Czech player getting into position and accelerates to deny him a scoring chance. He then spends a minute without the puck but never stops until he creates a turn over at 1:20:50 that leads to a goal. Excellent athleticism and compete.
1:58:54 excellent shift on his part as he skates up and down the whole length of the ring three times and is involved in every important play.

I think he's an excellent prospect for a specialist role - checking line and PK. He could become a power forward if he works on his shot and ups the physical play. His skating ability is unreal for a player of his size.

He is like his dad. Now i dont mean his scoring abilities. I mean, he plays and plays, but after the game, you cant remember he was on ice.

His dad had a nickname "Silent Killer". And this fits excellent also for Junior.
 

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People in Slovakia greatly underestimate this boy, almost everyone. And it´s happening only in our country and I don´t quite understand why. Unfortunately he started to play hockey late (at 13) but right now he´s getting better quickly and still has so many areas where he can improve.

Yes, to this day he´s not very admirable player but until he´s 24-25 you have no idea what kind of player he can be beacuse these tall players always need more time to develop. For example Satan desperately needs to hit the gym because he´s still very thin and weak. He´s very far from the finished product of course and if NHL team tries the risk with this type of player in late rounds and it doesn't work out it´s not a mistake.

Take a look on Elmer Soderblom´s draft season profile and still, Detroit took him in 6th round and how worthy it was. For almost this entire season I see Satan jr. as probably the only drafted Slovak player.
This is the kind of information I really like. Starting at 13 changes the entire assessment. It gives meaning to his journey and his progression. The curve is more vertical than that of the others. And on top of that there has been Covid since 2019.
 

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