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Mikhail Grigorenko
C / LHS | 6' 3.25" / 200
May 16, 1994, Khabarovsk, RUS
Quebec Remparts, QMJHL
2011-12: 59 games, 40 goals, 45 assists, 85 points, plus-35, 8 power-play goals
Rankings:
CSS Midterm: 2 | CSS Final: 3
Bob McKenzie Midterm: 2 | Final: tbd
Self Assessment:
Comparison: "Evgeni Malkin"
Best asset: "My hands."
Where do you need improvement: "Play in the defensive zone."
NHL Central Scouting:
TSN Grant McCagg:
TSN Risers/Fallers (McCagg on Feb 23/12):
TSN Feb 15/12:
B-Mac Feb 8/12:
McCagg April 4/12:
RDS Cup - Rookie of the Year
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts - winner
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads
François Brassard - Quebec Remparts
Anthony Duclair - Quebec Remparts
Zachary Fucale - Halifax Mooseheads
Brandon Whitney - Victoriaville Tigres
Michel-Bergeron Trophy - Offensive Rookie of the Year
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts - winner
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads
Anthony Duclair - Quebec Remparts
Paul-Dumont Trophy - Personality of the Year
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads
Jonathan Huberdeau - Saint John Sea Dogs - winner
Michael-Bossy Trophy - Top Professional Prospect
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts - winner
Martin Frk - Halifax Mooseheads
Brandon Whitney - Victoriaville Tigres
Michel-Brière Trophy - Most Valuable Player
Mikhail Grigorenko - Québec Remparts
Yanni Gourde - Victoriaville Tigres - winner
Zach O’Brien - Acadie-Bathurst Titan
2010-11 Season:
2011-12 Season:
2012 TPG:
Recent Videos: http://www.hockeyprospect.tv/search/label/Mikhail Grigorenko (2012)
Detailed QMJHL Stats: http://lhjmq.leaguestat.com/en/stats/player.php?id=11352
Original Thread: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=622241
C / LHS | 6' 3.25" / 200
May 16, 1994, Khabarovsk, RUS
Quebec Remparts, QMJHL
2011-12: 59 games, 40 goals, 45 assists, 85 points, plus-35, 8 power-play goals
PHP:
Season Team League GP G A TP PIM Postseason GP G A TP PIM
2009-2010 Russia U17 WHC-17 6 4 6 10 10 |
2010-2011 CSKA-KAM MHL jr 43 17 18 35 22 | Playoffs 10 1 4 5 4
2010-2011 Russia U17 EYOF 3 2 3 5 0 |
2010-2011 Russia U18 WJC-18 7 4 14 18 18 |
2010-2011 Russia U19 WJAC-19 4 3 3 6 0 |
2011-2012 Russia U20 WJC-20 6 2 3 5 0 |
2011-2012 Québec Rmpt QMJHL 59 40 45 85 12 | Playoffs 6 2 6 8 4
Rankings:
CSS Midterm: 2 | CSS Final: 3
Bob McKenzie Midterm: 2 | Final: tbd
Self Assessment:
Comparison: "Evgeni Malkin"
Best asset: "My hands."
Where do you need improvement: "Play in the defensive zone."
NHL Central Scouting:
"He's the type of player that controls the whole pace of the game, he can play with the puck at the same pace he plays without the puck," Central Scouting's David Gregory said. "He sees the ice and opportunities really well. He can hang onto it longer than most players; some players might feel that they have to move it quickly. But Mikhail has the patience and the ability to see opportunities and let them develop, which is a special skill. He's got a big long reach and an ability to move in traffic with his size (6-foot-3.25, 200). He's the kind of forward who will control the play and make things happen."
TSN Grant McCagg:
Highly regarded winger burst onto the international scene with ten points in six games as a 15-year-old at the U-17's in 2009 and followed up with a staggering 18 points in seven games at last spring's U-18 championship.
Strengths: Possesses the size, strength and skill teams covet in a first-line centre, protects the puck well and has great hands for a big man. Also has a smooth, powerful stride and drives to the net with force. Has a heavy shot, great vision and passing skills, elite offensive talent. Not afraid to get his nose dirty when so inclined.
Weaknesses: Has to continue working on his all-around game, needs to bring more consistency, will take some shifts and games off.
NHL upside: Has been compared to Viktor Kozlov in terms of his size/skill package, but also because of his inconsistency. Has the capability of being a skilled number one center at the NHL level, but will he have the desire?
Strengths: Possesses the size, strength and skill teams covet in a first-line centre, protects the puck well and has great hands for a big man. Also has a smooth, powerful stride and drives to the net with force. Has a heavy shot, great vision and passing skills, elite offensive talent. Not afraid to get his nose dirty when so inclined.
Weaknesses: Has to continue working on his all-around game, needs to bring more consistency, will take some shifts and games off.
NHL upside: Has been compared to Viktor Kozlov in terms of his size/skill package, but also because of his inconsistency. Has the capability of being a skilled number one center at the NHL level, but will he have the desire?
TSN Risers/Fallers (McCagg on Feb 23/12):
"There had been whispers over the past month that all may not be wonderful when it comes to the scouting world's perception of Grigorenko's competitiveness, but the whispers have grown into full-blown skepticism in some circles. "He could fall right off the map," said one scout who asserted that his club won't be considering him in the first round. "He doesn't want to compete. If he's there at 25 and we are picking, we go by him."
His concerns were echoed by another eastern conference scout who insisted his team will not select the talented Russian no matter where they end up in the standings. "He's a dog. Take a look at what games Grigorenko gets his points. He gets a handful the other night against PEI. none at Moncton, and one assist (in the nationally televised game) in Saint John. A couple of weeks ago in Rimouski he's minus 6. He scares the (crap) out of me."
While there's no denying his skill level, and his 73 points in 39 games as a QMJHL rookie are a testament to his offensive abilities, there will be a lot of teams watching him closely in the playoffs to see whether he has the competitive streak scouts like to see in their top five prospects. As of right now a number of teams have several players ranked ahead of him, and that trend will continue if he does not learn to compete at a higher level."
His concerns were echoed by another eastern conference scout who insisted his team will not select the talented Russian no matter where they end up in the standings. "He's a dog. Take a look at what games Grigorenko gets his points. He gets a handful the other night against PEI. none at Moncton, and one assist (in the nationally televised game) in Saint John. A couple of weeks ago in Rimouski he's minus 6. He scares the (crap) out of me."
While there's no denying his skill level, and his 73 points in 39 games as a QMJHL rookie are a testament to his offensive abilities, there will be a lot of teams watching him closely in the playoffs to see whether he has the competitive streak scouts like to see in their top five prospects. As of right now a number of teams have several players ranked ahead of him, and that trend will continue if he does not learn to compete at a higher level."
TSN Feb 15/12:
Grigorenko, meanwhile, returned to the Remparts lineup on Jan. 21 after missing five games with an ankle injury. Despite missing times, Grigorenko remains 12th in scoring in the QMJHL with 31 goals and 38 assists in 46 games.
B-Mac Feb 8/12:
Grigorenko started the season as a one-dimensional player, and Patrick Roy has turned him into a well rounded player, says [Bob] MacKenzie. MacKenzie compared Grigorenko to Evgeni Malkin & Pavel Datsyuk. He called him a "200 foot player". He also said some scouts might rather Grigorenko as he's a big center. He noted that Grigorenko hasn't played well since high ankle sprain.
He said that if the team with the first overall pick thinks they're close they might take him over Nail Yakupov, because of his two way play. He also noted that most scouts said they would take Yakupov, but he has talked to some that would rather take Grigorenko. His biggest asset is that he's a big, two-way center, a hot comodity in today's NHL.
He said that if the team with the first overall pick thinks they're close they might take him over Nail Yakupov, because of his two way play. He also noted that most scouts said they would take Yakupov, but he has talked to some that would rather take Grigorenko. His biggest asset is that he's a big, two-way center, a hot comodity in today's NHL.
McCagg April 4/12:
TSN's Grant McCagg, who used to scout for the Habs and is friends with Timmins, posts on our board from time to time and he has been anti-Grigorenko big time, suggesting he could envision 5 other forwards on our draft board ahead of Grigo on draft day and what not, some people assume it's because Timmins is feeding him the info.
I wouldn't consider myself to be anti-Grigorenko...I'm just not ready to anoint him the number two pick, and I have talked to several other scouts that have reservations about parts of his game. I don't think Timmins is anti Grigorenko either - he scouted him in the past few weeks....if he had no interest in him he wouldn't bother watching him at this point. I may know Trevor, but he's always been extremely coy about who he likes..he keeps his cards close to his vest.
There is no denying Grigorenko's talents, and I'm on the record as saying if he has a strong playoff and dispels some of the concerns about his performance in tough contests, then he might well still end up in my top two come draft time. He my even end up being a Hab.
The Halifax series will be a good test. I'm going to Quebec City to watch him play in the first two games of the series this weekend. I'm also going to be writing a feature on Grigorenko for TSN. I will interview several scouts, coaches, players and managers for the article.
RDS Cup - Rookie of the Year
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts - winner
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads
François Brassard - Quebec Remparts
Anthony Duclair - Quebec Remparts
Zachary Fucale - Halifax Mooseheads
Brandon Whitney - Victoriaville Tigres
Michel-Bergeron Trophy - Offensive Rookie of the Year
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts - winner
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads
Anthony Duclair - Quebec Remparts
Paul-Dumont Trophy - Personality of the Year
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts
Nathan MacKinnon - Halifax Mooseheads
Jonathan Huberdeau - Saint John Sea Dogs - winner
Michael-Bossy Trophy - Top Professional Prospect
Mikhail Grigorenko - Quebec Remparts - winner
Martin Frk - Halifax Mooseheads
Brandon Whitney - Victoriaville Tigres
Michel-Brière Trophy - Most Valuable Player
Mikhail Grigorenko - Québec Remparts
Yanni Gourde - Victoriaville Tigres - winner
Zach O’Brien - Acadie-Bathurst Titan
2010-11 Season:
2011-12 Season:
2012 TPG:
Recent Videos: http://www.hockeyprospect.tv/search/label/Mikhail Grigorenko (2012)
Detailed QMJHL Stats: http://lhjmq.leaguestat.com/en/stats/player.php?id=11352
Original Thread: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=622241
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