C Connor McDavid - Erie Otters, OHL (2015 Draft) II

[stamkosisboss]

Previous thread - http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=888631&page=41

So he has tied the Erie Otters rookie scoring record and has 3 more games to beat it. What a player.

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[Paulinho]

Best Prospect since Tavares...

Tavares at 15 > McDavid at 15

 

[UsernameWasTaken]

Tavares put up 134 points in his second year in the OHL. Crosby put up 135 points (albeit in the Q) in his first year, and he just turned 16 when that season started.

McDavid turned 16 two months ago and he's currently producing half as much as what Crosby did back then. Of course, this is unfair as it is the middle of the season and I'm sure McDavid is worn down, plus he is on a worse team, in a tougher league. From what I've watched on him, he is very talented and combines tenacity with vision and great stick skills.

But he still isn't coming close to Crosby's production, and I'm not sure if we should be so quick to call him the best prospect since Crosby, especially with Tavares' great junior career.

I agree with that. I'm not really interested in comparisons until he's in his draft year.

I think people's expectations of McDavid can be a little lofty - there were people on this board predicting he'd get more than 100 pts this year - even though that was incredibly unlikely (and in the end he hasn't come close to that).

 

[Tsundere]

The kid has tons of skill and talent, but man.. I've heard from a bunch of people that he's one of the cockiest players they've ever spoken to... hopefully it's just a youth thing and it'll pass cuz that's not the kind of personality I want in a team. He is only 15 and has time to mature.

 

[jfb392]

The kid has tons of skill and talent, but man.. I've heard from a bunch of people that he's one of the cockiest players they've ever spoken to... hopefully it's just a youth thing and it'll pass cuz that's not the kind of personality I want in a team. He is only 15 and has time to mature.

Take it with a grain of salt.
15 and 16 year olds and their parents are often jealous of players of his ilk.


Anyways:

TPS_Guy "Yeah, he's definitely coming" - Kevin Prendergast when I asked him if @cmcdavid97 (16) is too young or if he's too good NOT to take to U18s

http://twitter.com/TPS_Guy/status/311304992277557248

 

[HockeySauce]

Most kids of McDavid's talent level are cocky. It is what it is. He'll come around and personally, in the games I saw of him this year, he didn't seem to go over-the-top with his goal celebrations or did a lot of chriping.

Especially last year, when you're a 14-year-old dominating kids a year older than you, you're going to be a little cocky at least, because you know he was getting his share of abuse from opposing players (physically and verbally).

 

[jigglysquishy]

The kid has tons of skill and talent, but man.. I've heard from a bunch of people that he's one of the cockiest players they've ever spoken to... hopefully it's just a youth thing and it'll pass cuz that's not the kind of personality I want in a team. He is only 15 and has time to mature.

I always take stories about cocky kids with a grain of salt. I remember growing up playing with an absolute monster of a kid. 6'3, 210 at 14 who had it all talent wise (he likely would have been a mid-level NHL player if not for injuries). Super nice guy. Quiet. Down to earth. Great teammate.

A lot of parents hated him and said he was cocky. Your hockey Dads want their kid to be the best. And they'll say anything to bring the best down

 

[Leviathan]

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/article/ohl-western-conference-coaches-poll/140639

Western conference coaches poll had McDavid up there with the best...

"Smartest Player
Connor McDavid, Erie Otters (24)
Rickard Rakell, Plymouth Whalers (19)
Charles Sarault, Sarnia Sting (11)

Best Skater
Cameron Brace, Owen Sound Attack (27)
Ryan Sproul, Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (17)
Connor McDavid, Erie Otters (15)

Best Stickhandler
Connor McDavid, Erie Otters (23)
Max Domi, London Knights (22)
Ryan Murphy, Kitchener Rangers (15) – finished in second in 2011-12 and tied for second in voting in 2010-11"

 

[jigglysquishy]

Finished the season tonight

63 GP 25 G 41A 66 P

30th in OHL scoring
2nd in OHL rookie scoring (1st had lower PPG and was 15 months older)

Compared to John Tavars

65 GP 45 G 32 A 77 P
27th in OHL scoring
2nd in OHL rookie scoring (1st in rookie PPG)

 

[Leafs For Life*]

Connor McDavid - (2015) NHL Entry Draft, Erie Otters - OHL

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Finished the season tonight

63 GP 25 G 41A 66 P

30th in OHL scoring
2nd in OHL rookie scoring (1st had lower PPG and was 15 months older)

Compared to John Tavares

65 GP 45 G 32 A 77 P
27th in OHL scoring
2nd in OHL rookie scoring (1st in rookie PPG)

 

[kaiser matias]

Also passed Tim Connolly (62) for most points by an Otters rookie (66).

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

It's never fun for other parents to have to see one kid dominate the rest. That said, there's a right way of going about it and a wrong way. I remember hearing stories about parents spitting at Lemieux when he'd leave the locker room after games. He'd have to switch jackets with teammates because he was just so much better than everybody else and people couldn't handle it.

Any 15/16 year old who can put up a PPG in the OHL before most of their peers can even legally drive is going to be cocky. Guaranteed.

 

[Alberta tough]

What this kid is doing is special.

 

[HockeySauce]

He's the best prospect since Crosby. People way want to put Tavares in between the two, but IMO, McDavid's quite a bit better than Tavares was at the same age. McDavid's elite skating ability puts him on another level. Tavares was the better pure goal-scorer between the two though, no doubt about that.

 

[Roo Mad Bro]

8 goals and 14 points in 5 games.

Amazing.

 

[Wronskian]

This guy is head and tails better than anyone else playing today. Unreal.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

He's a cross between Crosby and Datsyuk from what I've seen.

Just incredible.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Best Prospect since Tavares...

Tavares at 15 > McDavid at 15

Anyone else disagree with this a lot?

 

[PorkChopSandwiches]

Anyone else disagree with this a lot?

*raises hand* im with you here. its close, but i just think id give McDavid the edge.

 

[HockeySauce]

Anyone else disagree with this a lot?

Yes.. but it's not surprising, given the avatar and the location.

 

[arsmaster*]

Anyone else disagree with this a lot?

I do.

Tavares was dominant at that stage because of his advanced physical characteristics.

McDavid still has a Justin Bieber body (the body of a young child).

McDavid's talent level is higher, as well as his skating.

JT has the similar IQ, but Connor's skating in the little boy's body shouts higher ultimate upside to me. When the kid puts on some strength he'll be unstoppable at the junior level, much like JT was.

 

[3 Minute Minor]

Yes.. but it's not surprising, given the avatar and the location.

... I don't live anywhere near him and what does it have to do with anything? I was a fan of Tavares in his day as well & the majority of my hfboards post come in the Great Britain section

 

[Patmac40]

... I don't live anywhere near him and what does it have to do with anything? I was a fan of Tavares in his day as well & the majority of my hfboards post come in the Great Britain section

I think he was talking about the guy you quoted

 

[Nicko999]

Anyone else disagree with this a lot?

Tavares as a 15 years old: 77 pts in 65 games
McDavid as a 15 years old: 66 pts in 63 games

Tavares was slightly better at that age.

 

[Proust*]

Crosby never did what McDavid is doing.