"Buying" cap

[PatrikBerglund]

I know you can indirectly do this by trading away a player and pay for it with either picks or prospects - but what about teams being able to buy cap from other teams?

For instance. Tampa wants to strenghten their team before the playoffs in 2019 and Buffalo is long gone from any playoff discussion - and they also have 5000 0000 in cap space which they aren't using.

Would it be a good idea if Tampa was able to trade for that cap, only during that season, for a 2nd rounder (or whatever is fair?

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[SotasicA]

That'd be stupid. What's the point of the cap then?

Arizona would trade $50,000,000 each season.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

That'd be stupid. What's the point of the cap then?

Arizona would trade $50,000,000 each season.

The worst teams far away from the playoffs can gain valuble assets from the top teams. Helps parity.

 

[SotasicA]

The worst teams far away from the playoffs can gain valuble assets from the top teams. Helps parity.

Like it helped parity in the 90's when the small market teams played with a $20m budget and the big market teams with $100m+ budgets? They gained valuable assets by trading away all their expensive players.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Players association would be all for it, it would inflate salaries for the 2nd/3rd tier of players (40-50 point gritty forwards, middle pairing RHD, etc). I like the idea, I'm not sure of the impact it would have on salary cap growth though, the league might find whatever % of cap space is unspent to be useful as a buffer.

While we're at it, you should be allowed to trade your lottery balls as well. It should help the tanking situation relatively subtly: if Buffalo wants to try and guarantee the 1st overall pick, they could trade Arizona and a few other teams for their lottery balls. Arizona still picks #4 but probably gets a 2nd or late 1st out of it. Teams that have been rebuilding forever and have an excess of #20-60 picks can trade for lottery odds and get the #1 piece they need to stop being a basement dweller. Teams that just started rebuilding can accelerate how fast they pile up picks in the 2nd while still picking high.

 

[PatrikBerglund]

Like it helped parity in the 90's when the small market teams played with a $20m budget and the big market teams with $100m+ budgets? They gained valuable assets by trading away all their expensive players.

This is only before the last trade window, not the entire season and can therefore not be exploited in the way you argue.

 

[SotasicA]

You'll be limiting the number of teams that can actually contend. If/when Arizona makes it to the playoffs, they can't go over the top like other teams and acquire cap space.

While a team like Habs would happily add something ridiculous like $300m in space (it's pro-rated at the deadline, right?) and could trade for all the veteran stars on non-playoff teams. Then the same teams repeat that each season.

 

[supsens]

Players association would be all for it, it would inflate salaries for the 2nd/3rd tier of players (40-50 point gritty forwards, middle pairing RHD, etc). I like the idea, I'm not sure of the impact it would have on salary cap growth though, the league might find whatever % of cap space is unspent to be useful as a buffer.

While we're at it, you should be allowed to trade your lottery balls as well. It should help the tanking situation relatively subtly: if Buffalo wants to try and guarantee the 1st overall pick, they could trade Arizona and a few other teams for their lottery balls. Arizona still picks #4 but probably gets a 2nd or late 1st out of it. Teams that have been rebuilding forever and have an excess of #20-60 picks can trade for lottery odds and get the #1 piece they need to stop being a basement dweller. Teams that just started rebuilding can accelerate how fast they pile up picks in the 2nd while still picking high.

It wouldn’t help the players association at all. Escrow would recapture any extra dollars spent. It would just take more money out of contacts already signed.
It’s odd the players keep voting to raise the cap and then get upset escrow is too high.
That 10 million dollar contract turns into 8.7 already or somewhere close to it.

 

[SotasicA]

It wouldn’t help the players association at all. Escrow would recapture any extra dollars spent. It would just take more money out of contacts already signed.
It’s odd the players keep voting to raise the cap and then get upset escrow is too high.
That 10 million dollar contract turns into 8.7 already or somewhere close to it.

Exactly. Players get 50% of revenue. Any "over the cap" scheme and "franchise player model" is just a way to redistribute their piece of the pie. The pie gets no bigger or smaller.

 

[BigZ65]

Sounds like some MLS bullshit.

 

[CaptainCrunch67]

sure at a price of 10,000 for every dollar increase in cap plus your first round draft pick at a rate for 1 years worth for every $100,000 in increase.

 

[maxbme]

Would you be able to trade a player and have buffalo trade him right back but retain cap?

Like
Buf: stamkos
Tbl: 7th rounder

Then
Tbl:stamkos at 50%
Buf: 2 prospects and a 3rd

Nhl would reject this right?

 

[supsens]

I think they have a calander year rule or something on trades same player same team

 

[McShogun99]

The changes I would like to see towards the cap is player bonuses on an ELC shouldn’t count towards the cap and a team can go over the cap up to 10% but they forfeit a 1sr round pick.

 

[RegDunlop]

All interesting ideas

 

[olli]

Would make the good teams to good depending on how much the price was. Wouldn't really do much forbad teams with bad gms with bad teams who sell the caps-ace except give them money. E. Melnyk would love it.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

That'd be stupid. What's the point of the cap then?

Arizona would trade $50,000,000 each season.

This is correct but maybe they could have a limit to it. Allow teams to buy up to $2M per season of cap to facilitate deadline deals at the deadline only.

 

[Ducks in a row]

How about we leave the cap alone it is best as is.