Butterfly or Standup?

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User571

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gr8haluschak said:
In it's basic sense dropping to your knees is a butterfly with a "V" formation from your legs back in the day that was the butterfly - the pads were face down, the reason his pads hit the ice face down is the fact that he wears them so tight to his legs, as opposed to all the true buuterfly goalies who have them fairly loose so when they do go down their pads roll onto their inside edges.
Yeah-I dont see a point in having your pads tight. Im not a full butterfly goalie, but I wear them lose so they take up more net-seems to make sense.
 

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nurminen31 said:
Yeah-I dont see a point in having your pads tight. Im not a full butterfly goalie, but I wear them lose so they take up more net-seems to make sense.
I wear mine tight...to me its just annoying, to have them loose and drag around i just hate it. I like them tight so i have a feeling when I drop down and such...I dunno. I play standup....
 

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agh...in this day and age of goaltending, there is not a defined "style" of goaltending.

even a "standup" goalie will drop down to the butterfly to make some saves, and a "butterfly" goalie will play certain shots on their feet. if you have to label modern goaltending with a "style" i would say that most goalies nowadays use a "pro-fly" or "hybrid" style of play. there are certain save selections that are good for certain types of shots, and saying that someone is a stand-up goalie or a butterfly goalie is meaningless, because nobody will use just one technique on ALL types of shots.

goaltending styles do not and should not dictate the way a goalie plays a shot - rather the shot should dictate the approach a goalie takes to make the save or play.
 

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nurminen31 said:
Brodeur never uses the butterfly. he will drop down on buth knees with his pads facing the ice covering absolutely nothing. He also tends to go down on only one knee and gives up crap goals (Larionov Farewell game, the goal he gave up to Danny Markov to knock his team out of the 2004 playoffs etc.)
Don't get me wrong, he's a great goalie but he's painful for me to watch.

He'll half butterfly a lot (one pad face down on the ice, the other facing the shooter). He went to the Francois Allaire school before, but he said that style of goaltending just didn't come natural to him.

http://images.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/_photos/2003-05-27-inside-brodeur-u.jpg

http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20040222/wflam0222/puck2.jpg

http://www.gazzetta.it/Foto Hermes/2003/12-Dicembre/14/brodeur--310x210.jpg

http://www.ihwc.spb.ru/a_015/images/06_brodeur.jpg

http://www.newjerseydevils.com/2003/gameday/images/rnd3gm5_brodeur.jpg

http://espn-ak.starwave.com/media/nhl/2003/0523/photo/a_brodeur_ft.jpg

http://nhl.speedera.net/image-upload/hull_vs_brodeur_280x194.jpg
 

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bruins4777 said:
I wear mine tight...to me its just annoying, to have them loose and drag around i just hate it. I like them tight so i have a feeling when I drop down and such...I dunno. I play standup....
Yeah Ive recently started doing up the bottom of the leg channel pretty tight. I keep the top of my pads kinda loose so they still rotate good, but it does feel better to have them tight. It keeps my ankles stabalized since I cant tie my skates tight enough.
 

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Brodeur said:
All of those look like hes asking fro a broken knee-cap if the puck gets deflected the wrong way. Personally, I don't know how anyone can bend there knees sideways like a 'full' butterfly.
 

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Douggy said:
All of those look like hes asking fro a broken knee-cap if the puck gets deflected the wrong way. Personally, I don't know how anyone can bend there knees sideways like a 'full' butterfly.

Look at roy. Its called insane flexibility.

Brodeur learned his butterfly the half triangle thing from the great great vladisalv tretiak.
 
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