TheDawnOfANewTage
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Value of: Buffalo prospects (and players?)
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There have been some reports that the Bruins have looked at them, names have been mentioned including both Okposo and Girgensons and then lately Friedman went on about Mittelstadt and potentially Boston wanting him. I could see either of the other two vets for a mid-rounder type deal but I don't see the value in a Mittelstadt deal with them.
hamzarocks
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Buffalo needs to trade 5 of the below pieces
Kulich
Rosen
Benson
Savoie
Ostlund
Quinn
Mittlestadt
2024 1st
2025 1st
2026 1st
They should get back 3 core pieces from 5 of those pieces depending on mix
Main Core is
Dahlin, TT, Cozens, Power
+ 3 secondary core pieces added from above
+ peterka + tuch + samulsson + whichever of the above arent dealt
Kulich
Rosen
Benson
Savoie
Ostlund
Quinn
Mittlestadt
2024 1st
2025 1st
2026 1st
They should get back 3 core pieces from 5 of those pieces depending on mix
Main Core is
Dahlin, TT, Cozens, Power
+ 3 secondary core pieces added from above
+ peterka + tuch + samulsson + whichever of the above arent dealt
This season Buffalo has had the depressing realization that a top 2 center tandem of Thompson/cozens is not good enough for the nhl. Both guys are making 7+mil so sliding either to 3C is off the table. One needs to move and I think it should be cozens. Thompson is too talented to give up on.
They had the depressing realization that an inept PP gives back all of their improvement at GA. At the moment Cozens is playing RW2 so they don't actually need to worry about who of the two is playing center. In fact, getting a decent third line center would still be on the table.
I don’t see any scenario outside of a superstar coming back that benson is traded
hamzarocks
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Hes one of the guys that is outside the core 4 for the sabres right now imo (Dahlin, Cozens, TT, Powers)
He doesnt bring a superstar back by himself right now, but if sabre fans value him as a core player moving forward than they can take him off the list
These three offers alone should bring back a Tuch level player (forward or defenseman). Some example trades below (no need to make all):
Kulich + 2024 1st + Skinner --> Filip Forsberg
Rosen + 2025 1st + Ryan Johnson --> Swayman + Carlo. Summer deal if bruins decide to retool if they have an early playoffs
Savoie + 2026 1st + UPL --> Rasmus Andersson
You still have Quinn, Mittlestadt, Ostlund left over from that listing left over for sure along with massive team upgrades
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Deep Blue Metallic
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Pretty fair assessment from a rival fan. Nice job.
My theme would be keep the proven young players, especially ELCs, and package up the pixie dust and picks for vets.
PatLaFontaineASMR
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We need to trade 5 of them..? Why?
The team is top 10 in 5v5 scoring. Getting above average goal tending. Average on the PK. Better defensively.
The issue is being a bottom 5 PP team. With just an average PP we'd likely be in a WC spot.
The roster right now is very capable of being a playoff team. I don't see why we have to make any big moves unless it's getting a new coach.
VaporTrail
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The team hasn't won more than 2 games in a row at all this season.. they are not a playoff team
Just A Bit Outside
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This assumes Buffalo signs Rantanen to a long term deal in the summer. Without that belief this doesn't make sense, but:
Mikko Rantanen for
Cozens, 2024 1st and Östlund
Buffalo gets a 100pt RW to help them get the next step and into the playoffs. Roll Tage and Mittelstadt as 1-2 centers. They add one of the most productive forwards in the game to their awesome mix.
Avs get a youngish 60pt 2C on a great contract, a lot of cap relief and two great pieces to even the value between Cozens and Rantanen.
Mikko Rantanen for
Cozens, 2024 1st and Östlund
Buffalo gets a 100pt RW to help them get the next step and into the playoffs. Roll Tage and Mittelstadt as 1-2 centers. They add one of the most productive forwards in the game to their awesome mix.
Avs get a youngish 60pt 2C on a great contract, a lot of cap relief and two great pieces to even the value between Cozens and Rantanen.
PatLaFontaineASMR
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With just an average PP we'd have around 10-12 more goals. That enough would put us either in a WC spot or close behind. This roster is very capable of making the playoffs.
The team is better than it was last year 5v5. Also better goaltending, PK, and defense. There are very clear fixes for this team. That starts with getting a new coaching staff with a coach that has actually run a PP before.
There is no need to get desperate and start trading all our picks & great prospects away.
Yatzhee
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Lol, Buffalo isn't giving up young, contract/cost controlled talent for aging middle talent vets. Adams already has proven he's willing to hold on to the group of young players even if that means no playoffs this season.
A couple of Buffalo's UFA's are likely dealt by the deadline, but Thompson, Cozens, Tuch, Peterka, Quinn (currently injured anyways), Middlestadt, Greenway, Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, UPL, Levi aren't going anywhere.
Yes they need vet presence better than okposo, girgs and Comrie, but they don't need middling talent, over 33 vets. UPL is a rising star in net this season and Levi is working it out in Rochester. If the Sabres are going to move any of those young roster players mentioned above, the deal is going to be a franchise changer.
As Adams said, he doesn't want road blocks for the young coming through the pipeline, and at forward, there is no denying the Sabres have talent that is coming. Kulich, Ostlund, Savoie to name a few. So the deadline?, no. But this off-season, if there's a dance partner to do a hockey trade with, then ya, maybe a deal can be done.
A couple of Buffalo's UFA's are likely dealt by the deadline, but Thompson, Cozens, Tuch, Peterka, Quinn (currently injured anyways), Middlestadt, Greenway, Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson, UPL, Levi aren't going anywhere.
Yes they need vet presence better than okposo, girgs and Comrie, but they don't need middling talent, over 33 vets. UPL is a rising star in net this season and Levi is working it out in Rochester. If the Sabres are going to move any of those young roster players mentioned above, the deal is going to be a franchise changer.
As Adams said, he doesn't want road blocks for the young coming through the pipeline, and at forward, there is no denying the Sabres have talent that is coming. Kulich, Ostlund, Savoie to name a few. So the deadline?, no. But this off-season, if there's a dance partner to do a hockey trade with, then ya, maybe a deal can be done.
HaNotsri
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Adams will never trade away prospects or high picks.
Just for the sake of the thread I'd name the prospects and players available anyway.
This would be my list:
Prospects/futures
Savoie, Rosén, Kulich, any pick
Players
Krebs, Tuch, Okposo, Girgensons
Jokiharju, E Johnson, Clifton (lol)
Packaged for great players
Mittelstadt, Peterka, Power, Levi
Just for the sake of the thread I'd name the prospects and players available anyway.
This would be my list:
Prospects/futures
Savoie, Rosén, Kulich, any pick
Players
Krebs, Tuch, Okposo, Girgensons
Jokiharju, E Johnson, Clifton (lol)
Packaged for great players
Mittelstadt, Peterka, Power, Levi
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That'll involve some dead bodies. Mine among them.
Where do I fax the paperwork?
MeenOlViks
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If it was, I would be wondering how to fax something. It would involve unplugging my espresso machine and that? That's just not happening.
MeenOlViks
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I’ll take your espresso for Weber Ennis and a 3rd
Enroth, Ennis and a 2nd is not as biting as Ryder, Halak and a 2nd, but it'll do.
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