Proposal: Buffalo - MTL: Tuch/Matheson

[xNogaitx]

With the signature of Alex's younger brother today with the Habs and the news that Buffalo wants to go for a shake up this summer, I wonder what it would take to reunite the Tuch brothers?

Buffalo has plenty of Fs, but needs to improve their D whereas Mtl has too many Ds and need help in the top 6.

Matheson has 2 years left at 4.875M
Alex Tuch has 2 years left at 4.75M.
They are 2 years appart (Matheson just turned 30, Tuch turns 28 in a month).

So what gives, is it a 1-for-1 kind of deal? Tuch is younger, but defensemen usually carry more value than wingers (except power-forwards, so here Tuch carries more value).

Buffalo:
Dahlin - Jokiharju
Matheson - Clifton
Byram - Power


Montreal:
Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Newhook - Dach - Tuch
Roy - Dvorak - Anderson
Armia - Evans - Gallagher


My suggestion:

Matheson + WPG's 1st 2024 + Kidney (fresh start)
For
Tuch + Buffalo's '24 3rd round pick

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[Jared Dunn]

Buffalo couldn't need anything less than a left shooting offensive D and I think there's an easier way to reunite the Tuch brothers lol

 

[TBF1972]

With the signature of Alex's younger brother today with the Habs and the news that Buffalo wants to go for a shake up this summer, I wonder what it would take to reunite the Tuch brothers?

Buffalo has plenty of Fs, but needs to improve their D whereas Mtl has too many Ds and need help in the top 6.

Matheson has 2 years left at 4.875M
Alex Tuch has 2 years left at 4.75M.
They are 2 years appart (Matheson just turned 30, Tuch turns 28 in a month).

So what gives, is it a 1-for-1 kind of deal? Tuch is younger, but defensemen usually carry more value than wingers (except power-forwards, so here Tuch carries more value).

Buffalo:
Dahlin - Jokiharju
Matheson - Clifton
Byram - Power


Montreal:
Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Newhook - Dach - Tuch
Roy - Dvorak - Anderson
Armia - Evans - Gallagher


My suggestion:

Matheson + WPG's 1st 2024 + Kidney (fresh start)
For
Tuch + Buffalo's '24 3rd round pick

metheson would play over byram and power and samuelsson is removed from existence. sounds realistic.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Lol no. Tuch isn’t going anywhere.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Don’t the Sabres have too many LHD as it is?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Easy no for Buffalo.

How about Ryan Johnson for Luke Tuch. Reunite the brothers in Buffalo if needed.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Easy no for Buffalo.

How about Ryan Johnson for Luke Tuch. Reunite the brothers in Buffalo if needed.

Value aside, the Sabres have wing prospects coming out of their ears. We don’t need more. And if Luke wanted to join Alex in Buffalo, he could’ve played out his NCAA eligibility and signed here as a UFA.

 

[Ace]

Easy no for Buffalo.

How about Ryan Johnson for Luke Tuch. Reunite the brothers in Buffalo if needed.

I wouldn’t trade Ryan Johnson for ten Luke Tuchs

 

[Mrfenn92]

The Sabres have wing prospects coming out of their ears. We don’t need more. And if Luke wanted to join Alex in Buffalo, he could’ve played out his NCAA eligibility and signed here as a UFA.

I wouldn’t trade Ryan Johnson for ten Luke Tuchs

I understand. Was just waiting to hear back from the op to say they have enough lefty dmen. Just like you all do.

 

[xNogaitx]

I understand. Was just waiting to hear back from the op to say they have enough lefty dmen. Just like you all do.

I do agree with you that they have an over abundance of LHDs.
That's the one big caveat I'd say to this whole proposal.

Although, it does open the door to "other" moves.
Meaning, a 3rd team could be involved here whereby Buffalo gets a RHD instead of Matheson. (i.e. Marino from the Devils ending up in Buffalo, NJD landing Matheson and Mtl Tuch.)

 

[Mrfenn92]

I do agree with you that they have an over abundance of LHDs.
That's the one big caveat I'd say to this whole proposal.

Although, it does open the door to "other" moves.
Meaning, a 3rd team could be involved here whereby Buffalo gets a RHD instead of Matheson. (i.e. Marino from the Devils ending up in Buffalo, NJD landing Matheson and Mtl Tuch.)

Yeah even then no reason for the devils to trade a righty defensive dman to add a puck mover like matheson with Hamilton/hughes/nemec in the fold.

No reason for Buffalo to move a local good winger.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I wouldn’t trade Ryan Johnson for ten Luke Tuchs

Junior Tuch is a long shot to make the league. He's worth a 3rd. Nice last name with okay stats as 22-year-old college kid.

 

[Jared Dunn]

Easy no for Buffalo.

How about Ryan Johnson for Luke Tuch. Reunite the brothers in Buffalo if needed.

Tuch is still a project. Definitely doesn't have that kind of value

 

[viceroy]

Junior Tuch is a long shot to make the league. He's worth a 3rd. Nice last name with okay stats as 22-year-old college kid.

On the flip side I don't think Alex had great stats in the NCAA either before blowing up in the NHL. Not saying Luke will match his older brother or anything. We'd be happy if he turned out as a physical 3rd line Winger.

 

[Jared Dunn]

On the flip side I don't think Alex had great stats in the NCAA either before blowing up in the NHL. Not saying Luke will match his older brother or anything. We'd be happy if he turned out as a physical 3rd line Winger.

Alex was always a great skater though, Luke does not have that. Needs to add some meanness to his game

 

[Maitz]

Isn't Tuch from Buffalo? I don't think he is going anywhere and also Matheson and a low first doesn't fetch Tuch IMO

 

[McJedi]

With the signature of Alex's younger brother today with the Habs and the news that Buffalo wants to go for a shake up this summer, I wonder what it would take to reunite the Tuch brothers?

Buffalo has plenty of Fs, but needs to improve their D whereas Mtl has too many Ds and need help in the top 6.

Matheson has 2 years left at 4.875M
Alex Tuch has 2 years left at 4.75M.
They are 2 years appart (Matheson just turned 30, Tuch turns 28 in a month).

So what gives, is it a 1-for-1 kind of deal? Tuch is younger, but defensemen usually carry more value than wingers (except power-forwards, so here Tuch carries more value).

Buffalo:
Dahlin - Jokiharju
Matheson - Clifton
Byram - Power


Montreal:
Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Newhook - Dach - Tuch
Roy - Dvorak - Anderson
Armia - Evans - Gallagher


My suggestion:

Matheson + WPG's 1st 2024 + Kidney (fresh start)
For
Tuch + Buffalo's '24 3rd round pick

That is so terrible for Buffalo. Bad fit, terrible value, does nothing to improve their roster and detracts from the forward core a key vet.

All for a lousy defender that is almost all offense from the back. Which NHL team needs a bad defender in Matheson that's all offense? Would need to be a team with no PP QB whatsoever on their roster and a really good defensive D man to try to keep the puck out of the net when Matheson is playing his usual high turnover, low attention to detail defense.

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[HogtownSabresfan]

Isn't Tuch from Buffalo? I don't think he is going anywhere and also Matheson and a low first doesn't fetch Tuch IMO

Yeah, the whole thing is silly, The junior Tuch signed to burn a year in AHL. If anything, he's fodder of a trade to Buffalo. Sabres are never trading Alex.

 

[Treb]

Yeah, the whole thing is silly, The junior Tuch signed to burn a year in AHL. If anything, he's fodder of a trade to Buffalo. Sabres are never trading Alex.

Tuch's contract starts in 2024-2025.

 

[EveryDay]

Tuch's contract starts in 2024-2025.

Yeah he's not paying attention.

Also Buffalo aren't trading Tuch, he's their best forward.

 

[cwede]

true some high level reasons for this, as OP mentioned,
but (I have no interests here) I wouldn't as Sabres
IMHO
- Tuch is likely part of Buffalo core
- Tuch may be harder to replace
- Buff can probably find(sign/trade) a vet D comparable to Matheson without paying with Tuch

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Yeah he's not paying attention.

Also Buffalo aren't trading Tuch, he's their best forward.

I thought I read somewhere he was getting a game in Montreal. Doesn't really matter to Sabres. I doubt the Sabres will trade Alex Tuch in too many scenarios. Obviously, everyone can be traded but Tuch would require more than his trade value is worth to Canadiens.

I think having Alex Tuch on Sabres would have been a nice bonus if he was a free agent but it invites conflict if he isn't good enough. In Montreal, he gets a fair chance to make the league with brother overhang. Best to the kid.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Matheson and Clifton on second pair? Oh boy.

 

[DJN21]

You got every single detail wrong in regards to the sabres...congrats I guess....?

 

[Djp]

With the signature of Alex's younger brother today with the Habs and the news that Buffalo wants to go for a shake up this summer, I wonder what it would take to reunite the Tuch brothers?

Buffalo has plenty of Fs, but needs to improve their D whereas Mtl has too many Ds and need help in the top 6.

Matheson has 2 years left at 4.875M
Alex Tuch has 2 years left at 4.75M.
They are 2 years appart (Matheson just turned 30, Tuch turns 28 in a month).

So what gives, is it a 1-for-1 kind of deal? Tuch is younger, but defensemen usually carry more value than wingers (except power-forwards, so here Tuch carries more value).

Buffalo:
Dahlin - Jokiharju
Matheson - Clifton
Byram - Power


Montreal:
Slaf - Suzuki - Caufield
Newhook - Dach - Tuch
Roy - Dvorak - Anderson
Armia - Evans - Gallagher


My suggestion:

Matheson + WPG's 1st 2024 + Kidney (fresh start)
For
Tuch + Buffalo's '24 3rd round pick

Tuch will cost you a fortune.

He is a local kid from Syracuse. Grew up a sabres fan


Buffalo does not need another LD.