Proposal: Buf - edm

[Edison]

Now that buf got Miller, i got trade idea. Ristolainen To Larsson. Who adds?

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[CaptPantalones]

Risto moves for scoring.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I would think Buffalo need an offensive D for Risto. Larson is an offensive wasteland.

 

[Shnooks]

No thanks from the Sabres.

Ristolainen is two years younger and signed for one more season.

And if Buffalo trades Ristolainen, it's for a forward...they definitely don't need another RHD with Montour, Miller, Bogosian, Nelson, and Borgen.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Neither team does it. EDM likely wants to add to Larsson and the rest of the d core not swap him

 

[belair]

Now that buf got Miller, i got trade idea. Ristolainen To Larsson. Who adds?

Buffalo--substantially.

 

[Chainshot]

No thanks. Again. Like for the 28th time. Keep Larsson. Keep RNH. It doesn't work.

 

[Ragdoll]

Regardless of value, this trade doesn’t make sense for either side. Buffalo most likely looks at adding to their forward group in a trade involving Risto and the Oilers would like to add another rhd, not do a straight swap.

 

[VainGretzky]

No thx Risto horrible on defensive side of being a dman

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Are we only ever allowed to have one RHD at a time, or...?

No thanks on Risto. Not for Larsson, not for RNH, just... no.

 

[Edison]

Are we only ever allowed to have one RHD at a time, or...?

No thanks on Risto. Not for Larsson, not for RNH, just... no.

Risto is rhd. And i think he helps edmontons offensive problems. And Larsson helps buffalos def problems.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Buffalo--substantially.

I’m not swapping Rist for Larsson. EDM would need to add.

 

[McWeber]

I would have loved Risto a few years ago but Bouchard could fill a similar role as soon as this year for much less. We don't have another tough minutes RHD if we Trade Larsson though.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Risto is rhd. And i think he helps edmontons offensive problems. And Larsson helps buffalos def problems.

Yes, I’m aware. Trading Larsson for Risto doesn’t help us. Risto has cataclysmically struggled as a top pairing defenceman his entire career. Can’t defend to save his life. If we traded Larsson for him, wed have to play Risto on the top pair, where he’s been awful for years. Larsson had a tough year, but he was very good for the two years before that. Rather bank on him returning to form.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I’m not swapping Buffalo for Larsson. EDM would need to add.

We don’t want Risto. We definitely wouldn’t add to make a trade happen that we have no desire to see happen.

The guy is a 3/4 that’s been miscast on the top pairing his entire career. With Larsson gone he’d have to play top pairing here, too, I’m assuming with similarly poor results.

 

[Rivet52]

As others have said, it makes no sense for either team. Oilers can’t afford to lose Larsson unless they were to bring another RHD in in addition to Ristolainen. Ristolainen has been forced into top-pairing minutes since practically the day he stepped into the NHL as a teenager and wouldn’t have any better of a situation in Edmonton with Larsson gone and him playing the same role there. I think he can be a great player in the right role, as a second-pairing guy.

Buffalo is loaded on defense and likely ships defense out and acquires offense and/or futures. Larsson’s a good player but not much better if any than what Buffalo already has on the right side.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Why?

 

[Paxon]

Don't really see the point

 

[Dirty Dog]

Yes, I’m aware. Trading Larsson for Risto doesn’t help us. Risto has cataclysmically struggled as a top pairing defenceman his entire career. Can’t defend to save his life. If we traded Larsson for him, wed have to play Risto on the top pair, where he’s been awful for years. Larsson had a tough year, but he was very good for the two years before that. Rather bank on him returning to form.

There is something in between “top pair” and “can’t defend to save his life.” You’ll find Risto there. One day he may develop into a top pairing player, but people (hf posters, I bet he’s highly valued by GMs) need to stop acting like he’s shit just because he’s not there yet (or ever)

 

[HaNotsri]

Risto could work very well for the Oilers but you shouldn’t make the same mistake as Sabres have done for years by running him into the ground with 25 hard matchup minutes per night.

Not interested in Larsson. No realistic option on the Edmonton roster to make this happen.

 

[Tyrolean]

Trade Poolparty for him.

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

I’m not swapping Rist for Larsson. EDM would need to add.

You mean the Ristolainen that had the worst +/- in the entire league at -41? That almost doubled the 2nd worst (Tage Thompson -22) on the team?
Sure, he had 43 pts, that's decent, but he's not leaps and bounds better than Adam Larsson. Rasmus has never had a positive defensive stat in his entire NHL career. Prior to this season, Adam Larsson was a +46 in the previous 3 seasons (2 of which were on non-playoff teams). He is by far and away a better defender than Ristolainen

 

[tsujimoto74]

You mean the Ristolainen that had the worst +/- in the entire league at -41? That almost doubled the 2nd worst (Tage Thompson -22) on the team?
Sure, he had 43 pts, that's decent, but he's not leaps and bounds better than Adam Larsson. Rasmus has never had a positive defensive stat in his entire NHL career. Prior to this season, Adam Larsson was a +46 in the previous 3 seasons (2 of which were on non-playoff teams). He is by far and away a better defender than Ristolainen

It's more than double the offensive production, and Risto has done that each of the last 4 seasons (landing in the top 30 for scoring among D each time). That's like saying McDavid wasn't "leaps and bounds" better than Jonathan Drouin. There's a world of difference in the offensive ability there.

Larsson is mostly a defensive D, I get that, but it's not like he's any less one-dimensional than Risto. But the thing is, Risto actually consistently produces offense--Larsson is all over the map season-to-season. Plus Risto is younger and has an additional year of team control.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Id have interest in Risto, but not at the price of Larsson.

Not even getting into the argument of their value vs. eachother.

Buffalo would be moving Risto because of the backlog on the right side of their defence, why would they bring on another RHD?

Edmonton on the other hand needs a 2nd RHD to go with Larrson. Swapping him for another one is borrowing from Pete to pay Paul.

If Buffalo wants picks and prospects, than I could see a fit here, as Edmonton is probably willing to offer up more on that front than most. However if they want scoring than the Oil don't have much to offer (of appropriate value). Risto isn't worth McDavid, Drai, or RNH; but he is worth a hell of a lot more than the next best scorer on the Oiler roster...

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Both Buffalo and Edmonton need scoring. Buffalo is giving up their best offensive defender for a guy who doesn’t produce offense. Not trade partners. Something around Risto and RNH would interest Buffalo.