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[GAGLine]

I know that, but I can envision a scenario like Ryder Korczak where he can’t really hold his footing in the AHL and opts to go back for the overage.

Korczak isn't what we typically think of when we use the term overager. He's in his D+2 season. He was eligible to play in the AHL this year because his birthday is September 23rd, making him one of the oldest players in his draft class. The cutoff for the draft is September 15th and he was drafted in his first year of eligibility. Most kids drafted out of the CHL spend 2 years there post draft, so what Korczak is doing isn't unusual. The fact that he wasn't ready for the AHL is in no way a negative against him. Othmann was taken in the same draft and is all of 3 1/2 months younger. His birthday is January 5th, so by CHL rules, he isn't considered an overager (the cutoff is Dec 31st).

Compare Korczak to Ryan Callahan. Callahan was passed over the first time he was draft eligible. We then selected him in the 4th round the following year when he was 19. He then played 2 more years in the OHL. He was a true overager in his final OHL season. He played an extra year in juniors beyond what most kids typically do. He turned 21 in March of his last OHL season. Korczak won't turn 21 until early next season.

Bob is one of the youngest players in his draft class. He won't have a choice next year. It will be OHL or NHL for him. So like Korczak, he will spend 2 years in the CHL post draft. He would only be an overager if he were to spend the 2024-25 season in the OHL. Do you really think he's going to spend 2 more years after this in juniors? That seems really unlikely. If anything, they'll bump him down to the ECHL if he isn't ready for the AHL.

 

[nyr2k2]

Interesting to see the records since the Othmann trade:

Flint: 26-21-3-0
Peterborough: 25-23-1-0

I remember some commentary at the time that it would be good for Othmann to be moving on to a better team, and I was like, ehh, not so sure. LOL. Not saying this is a reflection of Othmann, just funny how some times moves don't work out as you'd expect.

 

[cwede]

... a scenario like Ryder Korczak where he can’t really hold his footing in the AHL and opts to go back for the overage..

Korczak making Pack, in the Fall, was a surprise, and turned out to be overly optimistic.
btw playing Junior before your 21-year-old season is not usually considered over-age

 

[nyr2k2]

Korczak making Pack, in the Fall, was a surprise, and turned out to be overly optimistic.
btw playing Junior before your 21-year-old season is not usually considered over-age

By definition, the overage season in the CHL leagues occur when you turn 20 in the year the season starts. Just add 20 to the birth year--i.e., born in 2000, you were an average player in the season that began in 2020. Korczak was born in 2002, so he was an overage player in this past season which began in 2022.

Where people get tripped up on the overage thing is by conflating a player's NHL draft eligibility and their CHL overage status, when they don't really have anything to do with one another. He may only be 20 but he's also in his fifth year of CHL play, which unless you had exceptional status, is always going to make you overage.

Many guys do turn 21 during their overage season, which Korczak will not, so that's somewhat unusual. But "age 21 season" as you referenced above isn't really a thing; that would suggest a guy turned 21 in the year his season started, which could also mean theoretically you could be 22 and playing the CHL--which cannot happen. Your "age 20 season" is your last season in the CHL leagues.

 

[bleedblue94]

fanatics should have some doozies with that one

Knowing them they'll just remove all the vowels from it

 

[2014nyr]

Knowing them they'll just remove all the vowels from it

change his name to boris and he's our new signing from eastern europe

 

[nyr2k2]

He signed his ATO with Hartford.

 

[IDvsEGO]

He signed his ATO with Hartford.

wait what? He can't play with hartford even next season afaik right?
Did you mean berard?

 

[cwede]

wait what? He can't play with hartford even next season afaik right?
Did you mean berard?

he cannot start next regular season with Pack, but can play next few weeks (and next spring after OHL)

now that his OHL season is done, he can join Pack on an ATO for balance of season
ATO (Amateur try-out) as his pro/NHL contract begins next season, when he will play again in OHL

any of the Junior players, whether signed (Othmann, Korczak, Boyko) or not yet signed (Grubbe, Barbashev) can join Pack after their season ends

 

[IDvsEGO]

he cannot start next regular season with Pack, but can play next few weeks (and next spring after OHL)

now that his OHL season is done, he can join Pack on an ATO for balance of season
ATO (Amateur try-out) as his pro/NHL contract begins next season, when he will play again in OHL

any of the Junior players, whether signed (Othmann, Korczak, Boyko) or not yet signed (Grubbe, Barbashev) can join Pack after their season ends

oh interesting. Didnt realize that.