Value of: Bryan Rust for a Top 4D

[LRS87]

Any offers? Ideally, we then replace him with Roslovic after this trade.

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[bigdaddyk88]

Why are we looking for a top 4 defenseman? Letang Peterson Brian Marino are solid and signed.

 

[LRS87]

Why are we looking for a top 4 defenseman? Letang Peterson Brian Marino are solid and signed.

For third pairing, obviously. Have you seen our defense this year?

 

[DeagleJenkins]

Soucy?

 

[hamzarocks]

Dermott + 2nd + Vesey for Rust at 50%

 

[SEALBound]

Dermott + 2nd + Vesey for Rust at 50%

NHL salary cap - Wikipedia

We are not retaining on Rust. You don't need to retain on a guy like Rust @ $3.5mil.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Why do the Penguins need another top-4 D? Dumoulin-Letang and Pettersson-Marino is a great top-4?

 

[Jumptheshark]

Mr negative here

Is Mr Rust's output based upon his talent or the people he plays with?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Mr negative here

Is Mr Rust's output based upon his talent or the people he plays with?

Rust is a legitimate 40-50 point guy (per 82 games) that had inflated production last year from playing exclusively with Malkin.

He's a 2nd/3rd line tweener that you can have in your top-6 or carry your 3rd line IMO

 

[SEALBound]

Mr negative here

Is Mr Rust's output based upon his talent or the people he plays with?

I mean...both? Isn't everyone at a point?

I bet McDavid scores more with Crosby and Ovechkin as linemates than he would with Craig Adams and Tanner Glass.

I would say Rust is a consistent 40pt guy at a minimum with a 50-60pt ceiling. As with all 2nd liner caliber wingers, a lot depends on chemistry.

 

[MMC]

Manson?

 

[Beauner]

Why are we trading Rust without a replacement lined up? Unless you want ERod in the top 6 permamently.....

 

[DesertPenguin]

Holy over reaction Batman!

Rust is struggling right now, but the same goes for most of the top 6. If indeed we move him out, I'd look to make it a shake up move to bring in another RW in in a similar cap hit, age, and need of a change of scenery situation. On D, yes we want our D to improve, but look at the logjam we already have:

Dumoulin - Letang
Pettersson - Marino
Riikola - Ruhwedel
Matheson - Ceci
POJ

We want to add to that? That's a pass from me unless you've got D men moving out the other direction. The two most locked in positions are Letang and Marino in the RD1 and RD2 positions. Pettersson has looked nice but is hurt for an unknown length of time. Matheson deserves more time to shake out once healthy, and Dumo has earned a longer leash than three games. I don't see where you slot in another D.

 

[Habs10025]

Mete might be available just not sure what Pittsburgh would be willing to trade that Montreal would be interested in .

 

[McJedi]

Wouldn’t stun me if Ryan Graves got linked to this. One for one.

 

[leeroggy]

Why do the Penguins need another top-4 D? Dumoulin-Letang and Pettersson-Marino is a great top-4?

18 goals against in 4 games might argue that claim . . .

 

[TS Quint]

18 goals against in 4 games might argue that claim . . .

I dunno nothin about no high danger shots or other fancy stats but overall their shots against are 3rd best in the league. Their goaltenders numbers suggest stopping a beach ball might be too much to ask of them.

But maybe someone who has watched them more than me might offer another explanation.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

NHL salary cap - Wikipedia

We are not retaining on Rust. You don't need to retain on a guy like Rust @ $3.5mil.

The Penguins don't, but the Leafs would. Dermott and Vesey cost almost nothing. Oddly enough, that would be the problem.

 

[Empoleon8771]

18 goals against in 4 games might argue that claim . . .

It's a hell of a lot that's more easily explained by their .813 team save%

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Unless it’s a massive upgrade on Ruhwedel, who’s playing great, I don’t see the point. Just forces us to do another Zucker trade and we’re running out of assets/cap to do so.

Manson?

That one is tempting, but why is he on the block? Seems like ive seen his name a lot from Ducks fans and it doesn’t seem like RD is exactly deep in Anaheim.

 

[Flyer lurker]

If you trading Rast then you are losing that asset long term and in all likelihood the d asset you acquire in the ED. You are pretty much stating this is the pens last year at a cup and we are all in start the rebuild next year.

Feel free to discuss if right plan. I am just surprised to see it out here.

 

[MMC]

Unless it’s a massive upgrade on Ruhwedel, who’s playing great, I don’t see the point. Just forces us to do another Zucker trade and we’re running out of assets/cap to do so.



That one is tempting, but why is he on the block? Seems like ive seen his name a lot from Ducks fans and it doesn’t seem like RD is exactly deep in Anaheim.

Well he just was ruled out for 6 weeks so I can’t imagine he’s very tempting at this point . He’s on the block because his contract expires after next season and we don’t know if we’ll be able to sign him for what he might want.

 

[HansonBro]

Bryan Rust for a Top 4D

Why are we looking for a top 4 defenseman?

For third pairing, obviously.

 

[LRS87]

Bryan Rust for a Top 4D

Okay I get what you’re saying, but it would give us more options for our top 6 in general.