Friedman: Brock Boeser is the hardest RFA to get a read on

[lawrence]

This is Friedman saying he's incapable of even making something up like he has for the other RFAs. He's embarrassing himself this summer.

Makes a cheeky comment about how we offered more then anyone else for Ferland, doesn't do the same for Gardiner. Cheeky bastard.

 

[lawrence]

For sure I like Friedman and I don't think he ever makes stuff up. He seems to have real sources.

as far as I know he has nothing on the Canucks. If you want a reliable insider on Canucks related thing the only one person to be accurate is Rick Dhalliwal.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Boeser isca great player. Canucks will get it done.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Cap space isn’t the problem right now. We have plenty to sign him as Roussel goes on IR. It’s not about not having enough cap, it makes about trying to get the best deal possible for future cap space and to set the bar for future negotiations for Pettersson and Hughes for example.

Complete falsity. If cap space wasn’t a problem he’d be signed. Stupid summer spending when a team is bottom feeder has led to this

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

You have to blame Benning, he has had over a year to negotiate a deal with Boeser. Either his demands are outrageous to the point of maybe hoping for a trade to be closer to home or Brock has an agent playing hard ball wanting his client to be paid and Brock is fine with that.

Lets just hope a deal gets done soon, still huge part of this is on Benning.

Boeser reportedly asked for $7M/4Y which really isn’t outrageous at all when you look at what Timo Meier got with a heavily inflated QO.

 

[82Ninety42011]

Boeser reportedly asked for $7M/4Y which really isn’t outrageous at all when you look at what Timo Meier got with a heavily inflated QO.

The Provorov deal seems fair to me as I don't think Boeser is worth more then Provorov. 6.75 per six years seems good to me. Now for those that say no way he settles for that would you not trade Boeser for Provorov? I would in a heart beat but doubt Flyers would.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Complete falsity. If cap space wasn’t a problem he’d be signed. Stupid summer spending when a team is bottom feeder has led to this

Disagree completely. Those summer moves were necessary. There’s final a buzz and hope to make the playoffs this year. They’re also long term moves as Miller, Myers and Ferland have plenty have hockey left in them. We have the cap to spend on Boeser, but we’re not going to just give him what he wants.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

The Provorov deal seems fair to me as I don't think Boeser is worth more then Provorov. 6.75 per six years seems good to me. Now for those that say no way he settles for that would you not trade Boeser for Provorov? I would in a heart beat but doubt Flyers would.

Boeser is much better than Provorov and more importantly, the market dictates Boeser be paid more than Provorov.

 

[82Ninety42011]

Boeser is much better than Provorov and more importantly, the market dictates Boeser be paid more than Provorov.

I disagree and I'm sure many more would as well. However this is all subjective so your entitled to your opinion. One question I have though is whats more important a top pairing Dman or top line winger? I take the Dman every time myself.

 

[Canuck86]

Boeser is much better than Provorov and more importantly, the market dictates Boeser be paid more than Provorov.

Hard to compare a winger to a D imo. A top 4D who can provide offence is key piece to your team. Not to put Boeser down, but as of now he has yet to become a 30g or 60pt player. Provorov has proven to be a durable D with a 40pt season under his belt at a young age. He regressed pt wise last year but I think he could bounce back this season under a new coach and another year in the league to mature.

Boeser should be happy to receive a 7m offer imo. Is he a talented player yes, he can snipe. He doesn't have blaring speed and is not used on the PK so he is somewhat of a 1 dimensional player, but he is young he can continue to get better and his stats dont back up that kind of payday as of yet. Canucks would be banking on him being healthy and being a 30g plus scorer by offering him that kind of deal hoping that it looks good on them going forward...just like the Horvat deal

 

[Menzinger]

Still seems strange the Nucks would want to cheap out on the guy

They're not going to be overly competitive for the next few years regardless. Fighting over pennies seems a fruitless exercise and just alienates the player from wanting to commit longer term

 

[Cogburn]

Still seems strange the Nucks would want to cheap out on the guy

They're not going to be overly competitive for the next few years regardless. Fighting over pennies seems a fruitless exercise and just alienates the player from wanting to commit longer term

Horvat signed a below market contract, and we have Hughes, Pettersson and Demko all coming due, so whether we're competitive next year, or the year after, shouldn't mean we pay 11 million to our top three players and hope everyone else ignore that and sign way below value.

 

[93LEAFS]

as far as I know he has nothing on the Canucks. If you want a reliable insider on Canucks related thing the only one person to be accurate is Rick Dhalliwal.

Even if Friedman doesn't have sources inside the Canucks organization, there is a decent chance he has sources with Boeser's agency. For example, I'm not sure Dreger has sources with the Maple Leafs any more (there preferred outlets are Bob McKenzie, Friedman, Chris Johnston, and James Mirtle) but he absolutely had sources with Darren Farris.

 

[notsocommonsense]

Still seems strange the Nucks would want to cheap out on the guy

They're not going to be overly competitive for the next few years regardless. Fighting over pennies seems a fruitless exercise and just alienates the player from wanting to commit longer term

How are the nucks cheaping out on Boeser?

 

[M2Beezy]

How are the nucks cheaping out on Boeser?

I know, its INSANE

 

[notsocommonsense]

I know, its INSANE

You know WHAT exactly?

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

I disagree and I'm sure many more would as well. However this is all subjective so your entitled to your opinion. One question I have though is whats more important a top pairing Dman or top line winger? I take the Dman every time myself.

I would take the top pairing defenseman, but Provorov isn’t a top pairing defenseman.

 

[Canuck86]

Still seems strange the Nucks would want to cheap out on the guy

They're not going to be overly competitive for the next few years regardless. Fighting over pennies seems a fruitless exercise and just alienates the player from wanting to commit longer term

We don't know what the Canucks have offered, the player has also never passed the 30g or 60pt mark, how much of an overpayment does that deserve...Brock needs to improve his foot speed/agility and become a more well rounded 2 way player before he can try to become an elite highly paid player imo.

Horvat signed a below market contract, and we have Hughes, Pettersson and Demko all coming due, so whether we're competitive next year, or the year after, shouldn't mean we pay 11 million to our top three players and hope everyone else ignore that and sign way below value.

Bo signed his deal before he really broke out and became this great 2 way force. He will also get paid after his deal is up, much like Brock will even if he signed a 6yr deal Brock would be 28 and in his prime to test the UFA market and field multiple big time $ offers

 

[thebigbea]

I like boeser but he doesn’t do a whole lot out there. Can’t really create, mainly rely on his shot on the PP.

 

[82Ninety42011]

I would take the top pairing defenseman, but Provorov isn’t a top pairing defenseman.

I can respect your opinion but don't agree. Provorov has shown a complete game and is a young Dman who traditionally take longer to mature then forwards. Boeser who I love is pretty one dimensional shooter that scores but does little else. His skating is atrocious. We have very few scorers hence we pump Boeser up a bit more then we should. Within a year or two Provorov will be considered one of the better Dman in league Boeser unless improves skating will be what he is a one dimensional player who can shoot but little else.

 

[FAMOUSfin]

Brock wins puck battles and also has great hair.

 

[sting101]

Yes sick flow and he's prince muthafukin charming. Probably deserves Marner money really

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I didn’t realize Boeser was 10.2(c) until McKenzie’s tweet. I wonder if Vancouver is looking for a three-year bridge deal rather than long-term, and three years allows them to keep his rights at the end of that term.

I personally think a deal gets done soon, though and follows the trend of the final year having a larger base salary/QO base.

 

[forty47seven]

I personally think a deal gets done soon, though and follows the trend of the final year having a larger base salary/QO base.

Yeah, that structure seems likely if it is a bridge deal. I'm hoping the final year is more in line with Werenski/McAvoy than Meier. San Jose probably overpaid in that qualifying year. The QO escalation from a 3X5 to a 4X6 shouldn't be 3 million dollars.

I really hope you're right about a deal getting done soon.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Complete falsity. If cap space wasn’t a problem he’d be signed. Stupid summer spending when a team is bottom feeder has led to this

Uh... that's not something you can say with certainty. The deal with Boeser has to make sense for the future. We don't want a Nylander situation where our two best players (Petey and, I believe Hughes will establish himself as our 2nd best player quickly) can use Boeser's contract as an anchor to put us in cap hell.