Injury Report: Brian Elliott placed on IR (Re-evaluated in 4 weeks)

[Dbrownss]

Can't wait to see all the Reimer proposals from Leafs fans.

Oh boy.....they are good ones too

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Can't wait to see all the Reimer proposals from Leafs fans.

Ask and you shall receive

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2034655

 

[PiggySmalls]

Damn this really sucks. After all he did.

On the bright side, we get to watch Allen play ~16+ straight games and then when Elliott comes back for playoffs, we get to have another 10 page thread over who should be starting, HAHA!!!

 

[bleedblue1223]

Toronto fans are fun...

 

[BlueDream]

Just ridiculous. Hopefully Pietrangelo comes back soon.

We do need to get a look at Copley.

The bad thing for Elliott is though, this basically allows the Blues to easily make Allen their guy again, just like last year.

 

[Captain Creampuff]

Ask and you shall receive

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2034655

If there was a way to get cancer, I'm certain reading those proposals is a good way to start.

 

[OvenMittz*]

Ask and you shall receive

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=2034655

Lol ignore him. He wouldn't do Kadri and Parayko straight up.

No... Just no.

 

[MissouriMook]

I'm curious as to why the put Elliott on LTIR but Steen on IR, even though both are expected to be "re-evaluated in 4 weeks." I think the LTIR designation to free up cap space requires that a player miss 21 days or 10 games, whichever is longer, but both milestones are expected to be met by both players so I'm not sure why there is a difference. Having Steen's $5.8M off the books for 4 weeks would seem to be helpful if we're looking to add help by next Monday, no?

 

[Dbrownss]

This TDL can't come and pass fast enough. Outside of Drouin I hope we do absolutely nothing. Hell, given what the deal is, we can still make that deal after the TDL if Drouin isn't a playoff hope

 

[PiggySmalls]

this basically allows the Blues to easily make Allen their guy again, just like last year.

 

[ZigZagBluesFan]

No trade necessary.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

I'm curious as to why the put Elliott on LTIR but Steen on IR, even though both are expected to be "re-evaluated in 4 weeks." I think the LTIR designation to free up cap space requires that a player miss 21 days or 10 games, whichever is longer, but both milestones are expected to be met by both players so I'm not sure why there is a difference. Having Steen's $5.8M off the books for 4 weeks would seem to be helpful if we're looking to add help by next Monday, no?

Maybe Steen could come back sooner? Maybe Elliott has a more firm time table of rest required?

Can a player on LTIR practice with the team? (Or is there any difference in that regard?)

 

[Alklha]

I'm curious as to why the put Elliott on LTIR but Steen on IR, even though both are expected to be "re-evaluated in 4 weeks." I think the LTIR designation to free up cap space requires that a player miss 21 days or 10 games, whichever is longer, but both milestones are expected to be met by both players so I'm not sure why there is a difference. Having Steen's $5.8M off the books for 4 weeks would seem to be helpful if we're looking to add help by next Monday, no?

There is no reason to put Steen on LTIR. We can't exceed the cap by close to that amount and get back under when we activate him.

Elliott is different. The fact we've lost another player means we need more cap space, and we could find ourselves in a position where we need to go over the cap by more than the $2.6m that Ott's LTIR status affords us, and still manage to get back under when everyone is healthy.

 

[TheDizee]

blues dont need to trade for a goalie. what they need is for allen to get the rust off because dont forget he was playing better than elliott was here for this stretch. get the rust off and get him feeling good.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

Seems unwise to play Allen that heavily immediately after an injury. Copley needs a start or two mixed in there. These aren't elimination games, so even if he isn't ready its not the end of the world.

Where's Jeff Tyni when you need him?

 

[Daley Tarasenkshow]

I assume either Copley or Binnington starts the end of the back to backs till Elliot is back. I think there's only like 2 or 3.

 

[TomDelonge]

blues dont need to trade for a goalie. what they need is for allen to get the rust off because dont forget he was playing better than elliott was here for this stretch. get the rust off and get him feeling good.

This just isn't true. The stats don't back it up, and neither does your bias of Allen over Elliot. It is sad because you seem like an informed poster whose opinion isn't going to be worth squat to anybody on this board pretty soon if you keep it up.

With that said, I hope Allen continues his great play from earlier this season and the bad luck doesn't continue with injuries. The hoping that we got the injuries out of the way early in the year didn't work out so well for us last year. However, this team does seem to have a different mental make up this year. Guess we will see.

 

[dRange44]

This just isn't true. The stats don't back it up, and neither does your bias of Allen over Elliot. It is sad because you seem like an informed poster whose opinion isn't going to be worth squat to anybody on this board pretty soon if you keep it up.

With that said, I hope Allen continues his great play from earlier this season and the bad luck doesn't continue with injuries. The hoping that we got the injuries out of the way early in the year didn't work out so well for us last year. However, this team does seem to have a different mental make up this year. Guess we will see.

Allen would've been an all star if he never got hurt, so he was doing great.

I understand your point, but no one is being biased. Allen is a good goalie. Some of us feel more comfortable with him. It is what it is. No need to call someone uninformed over it.

 

[TomDelonge]

Allen would've been an all star if he never got hurt, so he was doing great.

I understand your point, but no one is being biased. Allen is a good goalie. Some of us feel more comfortable with him. It is what it is. No need to call someone uninformed over it.

1. I said he was informed, not uninformed.

2. This poster has shown a clear bias in multiple threads of favoring Allen over Elliot, beyond that of just having a typical preference of one goalie over the other.

Also to the bolded, while I acknowledge that Allen had some fantastic play, he was not in any way guaranteeing himself to be an all star. I do hope as a blues fan he keeps up that fantastic play from earlier this year.

 

[TheDizee]

Allen would've been an all star if he never got hurt, so he was doing great.

I understand your point, but no one is being biased. Allen is a good goalie. Some of us feel more comfortable with him. It is what it is. No need to call someone uninformed over it.

i agree, allen was a all star goalie before he got hurt, not that means much TBH but he was having a very nice season. hes still top 5 in the league in shutouts after missing a month and a half. as good as elliott has played (and he carried the team here for 2+ weeks), allen was better. and now he has the chance to prove it again. looking forward to watching jake run away with the starting job again.

 

[2 Minute Minor]

i agree, allen was a all star goalie before he got hurt, not that means much TBH but he was having a very nice season. hes still top 5 in the league in shutouts after missing a month and a half. as good as elliott has played (and he carried the team here for 2+ weeks), allen was better. and now he has the chance to prove it again. looking forward to watching jake run away with the starting job again.

I'm more invested in the Blues winning than in Allen starting, but for you I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.

 

[TheDizee]

I'm more invested in the Blues winning than in Allen starting, but for you I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.

hmmm think i said the same thing about all the people drooling over elliott in the other thread

 

[2 Minute Minor]

hmmm think i said the same thing about all the people drooling over elliott in the other thread

Except you're hallucinating that level of Elliott partisanship. I don't have a dog in the goalie fight, I like both guys. I just want the Blues to succeed. You stand apart on this forum with your incessant hyperpartisan views on Allen. You did it last year, but have been quiet a portion of this year. The mask is off again.

You subvert your own arguments when you sacrifice your credibility by sounding less and less objective.

 

[Borderbluesfan]

Not really worried about our goaltending. Allen was solid to start the season and then Elliott was nothing less than outstanding when called upon. Elliott is now out and I expect Allen to come back and play as a starting goalie. I still think we are harder hit with Steen being hurt. Blues should limp into the playoffs and if they get everyone back can possibly do a serious run in the playoffs if they can learn how to get past the first couple of rounds.