Proposal: Brent Seabrook to Ottawa

[LDF]

I completely agree that the hawks should not be giving up the 2020 first

at the same time their needs to be a hell of an add to seabrook for Ottawa to consider it and that is even with Ottawa sending back Ryan. That says a lot and that is not a sentence I thought I would type

i agree..... no ...... 2020 ..... 1st rnd involve.

in any deal i wouldn't mind a 2021 or later draft picks and some older prospects from the 2017 and earlier.

 

[LDF]

In theory the Hawks could trade Seabrook at 50% and buy out Bobby Ryan after the season. If they did that, the cap hit would be

2020/21 - $7,020,833
2021/22 - $7,020,833
2022/23 - $5,270,833
2023/24 - $5,270,833

It would be a higher cap hit of $145,833 for the first 2 seasons but save $1,604,167 each season after that.

If you straight up bought out Seabrook it would be like this

2020/21 - $6,583,333
2021/22 - $3,583,333
2022/23 - $6,583,333
2023/24 - $5,083,333
2024/25 - $708,333
2025/26 - $708,333
2026/27 - $708,333
2027/28 - $708,333

Not saying you should or have to trade or buy out or anything.
Just giving numbers.

the narrative that is going around is the assumption that B. Ryan is thru. i would love to see him as a final piece for the team and see how he does.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

In theory the Hawks could trade Seabrook at 50% and buy out Bobby Ryan after the season. If they did that, the cap hit would be

2020/21 - $7,020,833
2021/22 - $7,020,833
2022/23 - $5,270,833
2023/24 - $5,270,833

It would be a higher cap hit of $145,833 for the first 2 seasons but save $1,604,167 each season after that.

If you straight up bought out Seabrook it would be like this

2020/21 - $6,583,333
2021/22 - $3,583,333
2022/23 - $6,583,333
2023/24 - $5,083,333
2024/25 - $708,333
2025/26 - $708,333
2026/27 - $708,333
2027/28 - $708,333

Not saying you should or have to trade or buy out or anything.
Just giving numbers.

I think the Hawks just keep Seabrook around until his NMC becomes a problem for them with expansion and then buys him out. They won't save much in 2022/2023 but at this point he's going to need to go on LTIR for them to get out of that deal.

 

[LDF]

This.

retaining 50% on seabrook AND taking Ryan at 100% makes no sense for Chicago. They might as well keep him and figure it out later.

that takes Chicago from having Seabrook at $6.8 mil cap hit to Bobby Ryan at essentially a $10.7 mil cap hit. whats the point? and dont say to shave off the last couple years, the hawks arent making that move today to save two years of seabrook down the line, they would be doing it to free up his cap space now, not pile on top of it

what is driving me crazy is why not build on that premise as the ground work and build on the pkg. the Bhawks have a boat load of prospect that will not make this team, but hell they can be used as filler in any trade.

granted the team is flaying away trying to get a consistent effort from their players, so a trade with the parameters i posted can help immensely.

 

[SwedishFire]

Chicago needs to find a taker, and then work out a deal that feels attainable for the other team. Dont think Chicago has that much of leverage in this deal. Therefore also, I think a Seabrookdeal is unlikely to happen. To bad Chicago.

But my 2nd suggestion is Seabrook 30% retained + good prospect < > L Eriksson + 3rd rounder.

Chicago takes and gives. And Vancouver gets a good prospect, and benning gets his new Gudbrandson.
A lot of cap for 4 years, but better than Eriksson.

Chicago can then package Eriksson to a capfloor team + 2nd rounder for anything that exists with a max 2 year deal.

 

[majormajor]

To Chicago:

-Bobby Ryan

To Ottawa:

-Brent Seabrook
-Dominik Kubalik
-2020 1st round pick

This is a good trade for both teams IF it happens after next summer's bonuses are paid. At that point Ryan will have $13m cash owed over two years. Seabrook will have $16.5m over 4 years. So it's small enough that it might be worth it to Melnyk to pay the difference if he can pick up some young assets.

Edit: then it would have to be 2021 1st or later.

No way.

Counter:
Bobby Ryan for Seabrook at 50%


Melnyk saves several million real dollars this way and has Seabrook count towards the cap for a longer period of time.

That's not ideal for the Blackhawks. They end up with a $4m higher cap hit over the next three years (Ryan + 1/2 Seabs) and a hangover of $3.5m for the final two.

Also, since Seabs' salary is less than the cap hit, it's a very inefficient way of helping Ottawa. The percentage retained has to be the same for both cap hit and remaining salary.

 

[Langdon Alger]

I actually feel like Seabrook and a boatload of futures for Ryan is a reasonable suggestion for a deal.

Ottawa doesn’t need Seabrook and Zaitsev for five years when they have young right shot d like Bernard Docker and Thomson who will need playing time in the near future.

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

Chicago needs to find a taker, and then work out a deal that feels attainable for the other team. Dont think Chicago has that much of leverage in this deal. Therefore also, I think a Seabrookdeal is unlikely to happen. To bad Chicago.

But my 2nd suggestion is Seabrook 30% retained + good prospect < > L Eriksson + 3rd rounder.

Chicago takes and gives. And Vancouver gets a good prospect, and benning gets his new Gudbrandson.
A lot of cap for 4 years, but better than Eriksson.

Chicago can then package Eriksson to a capfloor team + 2nd rounder for anything that exists with a max 2 year deal.

Beaudin work for you?

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

In theory the Hawks could trade Seabrook at 50% and buy out Bobby Ryan after the season. If they did that, the cap hit would be

2020/21 - $7,020,833
2021/22 - $7,020,833
2022/23 - $5,270,833
2023/24 - $5,270,833

It would be a higher cap hit of $145,833 for the first 2 seasons but save $1,604,167 each season after that.

If you straight up bought out Seabrook it would be like this

2020/21 - $6,583,333
2021/22 - $3,583,333
2022/23 - $6,583,333
2023/24 - $5,083,333
2024/25 - $708,333
2025/26 - $708,333
2026/27 - $708,333
2027/28 - $708,333

Not saying you should or have to trade or buy out or anything.
Just giving numbers.

Seabrook buyout looks better. Extra 4 years but at 700k thats almost not impactful on a rising cap figure. Plus, still retaining 50% on seabrook and adding those Ryan cap buyout hits looks nonsensical compared to a straight up seabrook buyout alone

 

[Kevin Musto]

i agree..... no ...... 2020 ..... 1st rnd involve.

in any deal i wouldn't mind a 2021 or later draft picks and some older prospects from the 2017 and earlier.

The unprotected 1st would be the main incentive for Ottawa. If it's not there, Ottawa would have no interest.

 

[KevinRedkey]

It's not worth discussing as it's highly unlikely Seabrook would eve accept a trade to Ottawa.

 

[LDF]

The unprotected 1st would be the main incentive for Ottawa. If it's not there, Ottawa would have no interest.

my friend while you are 100% correct, i would offer 2021 draft #1. plus throw in some prospect that the Bhawks have ........

however the pkg will need to be redone.

 

[LDF]

It's not worth discussing as it's highly unlikely Seabrook would eve accept a trade to Ottawa.

maybe....... granted it is not the westren canada that he would prefer, but Ottawa is a really nice place.

First Nation all the way !!

 

[Muffinalt]

We need to shake our status quo badly. What about:

Seabrook + 1st for Andrew Ladd.

What say you NYI fans? Maybe we could add another B prospect?