gocanada
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DaveyCrockett said:I'm not a fan of Burns. He doesn't play physical at all and isn't exactly an offensive dynamo. Hell, not even Stan Butler thinks he should have gone in the first round. Unless he suddenly develops a nasty edge or a scoring touch, I wouldnt expect much out of him.
gocanada said:how good,,,
I agree with this guy.DaveyCrockett said:I'm not a fan of Burns. He doesn't play physical at all and isn't exactly an offensive dynamo. Hell, not even Stan Butler thinks he should have gone in the first round. Unless he suddenly develops a nasty edge or a scoring touch, I wouldnt expect much out of him.
Jacobv2 said:Add in the fact that the Wild have developed him poorly thus far, and I doubt he'll have a career worth writing home about.
Interesting, because lots of people tend to think that Fleury's development was hindered.we can't tell whether his progress has been hindered or not at this point in time.
How about Minnesota.Jacobv2 said:It's this simple: Burns hasn't produced anywhere. Anywhere.
Uhh, if you're slated as an offensive forward, you kinda do.To produce, does one need to score?
Same goes for Danny Lacouture, but I didn't see him in the NHL at 18.his size, speed and heart are undeniable
Burns isn't a power forward by any stretch of the imagination. He hasn't proven his offensive skill at any level of hockey and he hasn't been a consistent physical presence. The main reason the Battalion moved Burns to forward was because he wasn't physical enough on defense. The Wild should have left him in junior so he could at least try and gain some offensive confidence.MN_Gopher said:I think they moved him postions to get a look. He does have narrow vision out there. So what better way to teach a guy the game of hockey then to put him all over the ice and really see the game. His best asset at this point is his work ethic, attitude and ability to learn. So move him around, put him in new situations. He should a better passer and more aggresive this year after playing the blue line. And wasn't Burns the guy in the WJC that called for all the elbowings on huge hits in the corners and along the boards. If his postion is power forward i wouldn't exept much until he turns 23-24 and really grows into his frame.
Jacobv2 said:I think mustering only one goal at the age of 18 says that he was rushed at some point in time.
Jacobv2 said:Interesting, because lots of people tend to think that Fleury's development was hindered.
Jacobv2 said:It's this simple: Burns hasn't produced anywhere. Anywhere.
Goaltenders might be different, but in the case of comparing Burns and Fleury, it should at least even things out. Fleury has had a terrific track record compared to Burns.But yeah, people tend to be more cautious about goaltenders. It's the whole confidence and up to a point, I would agree. Goaltending is by far the toughest job mentally. Technically and athletically, I think several goalies were better than Roy or at least his equal.
I think it's the most important thing. When you're 18 years old and you have yet to find confidence in your offensive game at any level (save for a decent second-half in the OHL) you need to be playing at a level that allows you to compete. Compete not just defensively but offensively.Not really important.
Jacobv2 said:The choice between forward and defense might make or break his career.
Jacobv2 said:I think it's the most important thing. When you're 18 years old and you have yet to find confidence in your offensive game at any level (save for a decent second-half in the OHL) you need to be playing at a level that allows you to compete.
A few more single-digit-point-total seasons and he won't be cocky.Bookman said:Umm, if there's one thing Burns doesn't lack, it's confidence. He's almost cocky. I think that's one of the qualities that impressed the Wild into keeping him.
Jacobv2 said:Interesting, because lots of people tend to think that Fleury's development was hindered.
Jacobv2 said:I don't know what they were thinking when they switched him back to the blueline.
Burke's Evil Spirit said:Geez, Vlad, why don't you just get down on one knee and propose to him?
Well said.Just Joshin' said:Burns could eventually become a solid two-way player for the Wild, but it'll take him awhile to become a solid scorer. He already has great defensive skills, and IMO that's what got him onto the team and allowed JL to use him on D. The games I saw him on D, he did a solid job knocking guys off the puck and forcing them to the boards, and he did a decent job in the corners and in front of the net. As a forward, he showed some good pasing skills but lacked a solid scoring touch and agressiveness on O. He seemed to have a pass first mentallity and never drove to the net or tried to create any offensive pressure when he had the puck. The Wild system is based on strong defense and IMO Burns was a good choice for them.