Value of: Brandon Saad to Edmonton

[Toews2Bickell]

Chicago: Edmonton’s 2019 1st, Ryan Spooner

Edmonton: Brandon Saad, Dylan Sikura, Gustav Forsling

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[Mick Jagr]

If Edmonton's first is going to be included then I believe Chicago would need to consider retaining some of Saad's inflated salary.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

If Edmonton's first is going to be included then I believe Chicago would need to consider retaining some of Saad's inflated salary.

Hawks arent taking back Spooner and retaining.

 

[780il]

Lol, not even close

If we are adding Saad, you bet your boots Lucic is going the other way. No way in hell we give up a lottery pick for that bum.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Lol, not even close

If we are adding Saad, you bet your boots Lucic is going the other way. No way in hell we give up a lottery pick for that bum.

In what world is Brandon Saad going in a deal for Lucic. Yikes.

 

[TFHockey]

Chicago: Edmonton’s 2019 1st, Ryan Spooner

Edmonton: Brandon Saad, Dylan Sikura, Gustav Forsling

Lol, not even close

If we are adding Saad, you bet your boots Lucic is going the other way. No way in hell we give up a lottery pick for that bum.

You have to know you're not getting a 1st for Saad.

To 78Oil, I think you're a little more down on Saad than I am. Lucic? Geeez that's harsh.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

You have to know you're not getting a 1st for Saad.

To 78Oil, I think you're a little more down on Saad than I am. Lucic? Geeez that's harsh.

What do you think Saad is worth? Forsling and Sikura are not throw ins either. And neither is the Hawks taking Spooner who has 5 points all year and makes 4m per. Hot garbage.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Chicago: Edmonton’s 2019 1st, Ryan Spooner

Edmonton: Brandon Saad, Dylan Sikura, Gustav Forsling

Yeah, it’s a no from us dawg. Forsling is nothing, just another bottom pair defenceman. Sikura isn’t better than guys like Benson/Hebig/Marody and hes 2-3 years older - limited value. Saad’s 6 mil ticket and 40 ish point pace likely isn’t worth a first from anyone, let alone a team that’s likely picking 10-15.

I see you’re taking the last year of spooner. That is not much of anything.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

What do you think Saad is worth? Forsling and Sikura are not throw ins either. And neither is the Hawks taking Spooner who has 5 points all year and makes 4m per. Hot garbage.

Spooner makes 3.1. The rangers retained 900k.

Saad is not worth a first round pick and adding a couple of B assets doesn’t get it up into the range where ours will be.

 

[TFHockey]

What do you think Saad is worth? Forsling and Sikura are not throw ins either. And neither is the Hawks taking Spooner who has 5 points all year and makes 4m per. Hot garbage.

Well, I see him closer to a 50 point guy and not a 30-40 point guy.. but that $6 Million dollar contract is really tough for Edmonton to absorb. We might be the wrong team to try and deal him to.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Spooner makes 3.1. The rangers retained 900k.

Saad is not worth a first round pick and adding a couple of B assets doesn’t get it up into the range where ours will be.

So what if the Rangers retained. He has 5 points in almost 40 games with another year of term. He’s the forward version of Brandon Manning. Hawks taking him off your books for an actual top 6 player is worth something.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Well, I see him closer to a 50 point guy and not a 30-40 point guy.. but that $6 Million dollar contract is really tough for Edmonton to absorb. We might be the wrong team to try and deal him to.

Easily playing with McDavid. Hawks could retain on Saad to make the money work plus eat Spooner’s deal.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So what if the Rangers retained. He has 5 points in almost 40 games with another year of term. He’s the forward version of Brandon Manning. Hawks taking him off your books for an actual top 6 player is worth something.

He’s got one year left and could easily be bought out. Taking Saad’s inflated salary back is an overpayment to get rid of one year of a bad player.

Our first is not for sale for the likes of Saad and Sikura/Forsling.

 

[Homesick]

Easily playing with McDavid. Hawks could retain on Saad to make the money work plus eat Spooner’s deal.

Thats what the thought was with Hall, Eberle, Lucic, Spooner and so on. Saad would definitely be another failed McExperiment.
He's not a bad player but his game isn't a fit for McDavid/Draisaitl. He'd be playing with RNH(who is producing with virtually zero help on the wing)

 

[TFHockey]

Easily playing with McDavid. Hawks could retain on Saad to make the money work plus eat Spooner’s deal.

I never buy this argument. A lot of fans on here try and inflate the value of a player because "he'll tear it up with McDavid". I only base a player's value on past/current performance, not what McDavid may or may not do with him.

 

[Taylorst]

Easily playing with McDavid. Hawks could retain on Saad to make the money work plus eat Spooner’s deal.

I'm just curious why Chicago would take spooner over Jesse p.? Saad is a top 6 player solid 2 way forward . Sikura and forsling are up and coming young talent.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I never buy this argument. A lot of fans on here try and inflate the value of a player because "he'll tear it up with McDavid". I only base a player's value on past/current performance, not what McDavid may or may not do with him.

Agreed. Saad’s most common linemate for the first quarter of this season was Patrick Kane and he had 10 points in 19 games.

He’s had plenty of opportunity with high skill players. The ‘just stick him with McDavid and he’ll get 70 goals’ stuff is so, so tired and frankly it’s a complete disservice to Draisaitl to think that way.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I'm just curious why Chicago would take spooner over Jesse p.? Saad is a top 6 player solid 2 way forward . Sikura and forsling are up and coming young talent.

... because he wanted our f***ing first rounder in the OP and asking for Puljujarvi on top of what’s already an overpayment would make an already bad offer even worse?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

I'm just curious why Chicago would take spooner over Jesse p.? Saad is a top 6 player solid 2 way forward . Sikura and forsling are up and coming young talent.

Because they need cap sent to Chicago and the 1st is a real ask. 1st+pool isn’t realistic. Well, with Chia maybe, but everybody else its a nonstarter.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Agreed. Saad’s most common linemate for the first quarter of this season was Patrick Kane and he had 10 points in 19 games.

He’s had plenty of opportunity with high skill players. The ‘just stick him with McDavid and he’ll get 70 goals’ stuff is so, so tired and frankly it’s a complete disservice to Draisaitl to think that way.

Who said 70 goals? The only thing said is that he’s probably a 50 point player with McDavid. Is it that unrealistic to see a slight bump in production playing with the best player in the world...

 

[Homesick]

I never buy this argument. A lot of fans on here try and inflate the value of a player because "he'll tear it up with McDavid". I only base a player's value on past/current performance, not what McDavid may or may not do with him.

The most successful LW's with McDavid has been Maroon and Chiasson. Two big bodies that knew they weren't goal scorers and played a simple game. Saad is not a fit IMO

 

[The Nuge]

So what if the Rangers retained

Well it kind of makes a big difference. His salary isn’t 4 million, which is how you’re trying to defend asking for a 1st for a guy on a bad contract

 

[Taylorst]

Because they need cap sent to Chicago and the 1st is a real ask. 1st+pool isn’t realistic. Well, with Chia maybe, but everybody else its a nonstarter.

Ok but is their 1st a top 5 or is it a late 1st? Just curious. Also it seems Chicago is giving up more for a draft pick IMO.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Well it kind of makes a big difference. His salary isn’t 4 million, which is how you’re trying to defend asking for a 1st for a guy on a bad contract

3.1m for 5 points. Cheaper cap hit but still Manning level awful deal.

 

[go4hockey]

Chicago: Edmonton’s 2019 1st, Ryan Spooner

Edmonton: Brandon Saad, Dylan Sikura, Gustav Forsling

There is absolutely nothing in this offer worth the Edmonton 1st.