Botterill fired. Does he come back to Pens?

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

Working for the Pegulas seems horrific.

And the Amerks are good!

 

[Gurglesons]

I would go with neither.

But I also recall a lot of blokes here that whined incessantly about JR being named the GM and how that would this team's downfall too.

Yeah. Who would say that...

Who should be the next GM of the Penguins?

 

[EightyOne]

Meh.
I like him
But. Meh to OP question.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Yeah. Who would say that...

Who should be the next GM of the Penguins?

I printed that page out so I can use it to wipe my ass later.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Yeah. Who would say that...

Who should be the next GM of the Penguins?

I could see in your first presser when they ask how you will improve the defense:

“Well it’s hard, you can’t just go out and get 6 Jack Johnson’s”

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The guy has a reason to be, if we're being honest, but Eichel strikes me as a bit of a prima donna. Like, late 90's Jagr.

Dude's gonna be dying alive sooner than later.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The guy has a reason to be, if we're being honest, but Eichel strikes me as a bit of a prima donna. Like, late 90's Jagr.

Dude's gonna be dying alive sooner than later.

I can see why people assume he's like that, but if you are now seeing the extent of how deep this rabbit hole of idiocy goes with the Buffalo Sabres ownership, you can see why he's fed up and has been for a while. Imagine coming to work, knowing that the owners of the company keep meddling, keep hiring and firing coaches and GM's and then parade you around like you're the savior all the while never really giving you jack shit of anything for help.

Penguins were a shit show too when Mario was drafted, but they also knew with a talent like that, they better start getting shit in order real quick. 5yrs into Mario's tenure from 1984-1989, they were positioning themselves as a future powerhouse by making it to the playoffs in Mario's 5th year. Eichel is 5yrs in, no playoffs in sight and probably not for another 2-3 more years. If Eichel is smart, he asks to be traded, I wouldn't want to be associated with a franchise that did what they did during the pandemic either, they really only care about themselves while pretending to give a shit about others. Yeah, Jacky boy should bounce, mate.

 

[Turin]

He and JR had a good relationship by all accounts, I wouldn’t be surprised nor bothered.

 

[SomeDude]

I'd take him back, but make him go through a buffer organization for a season or two until that Buffalo Sabres stench airs off of him.

 

[66-30-33]

Sure, I am game.

 

[T1K]

The guy has a reason to be, if we're being honest, but Eichel strikes me as a bit of a prima donna. Like, late 90's Jagr.

Dude's gonna be dying alive sooner than later.

Based on what? He’s a competitor who has been in the basement his entire career. It would be telling if he wasn’t mad. It’s not like he requested a trade.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Sabres fans not getting how the NHL situation isn't remotely as easily fixable as the Bills were, is telling enough for me to know they probably deserve the Pegula's.

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

What is the current alignment of the Pens front office?
So if Botts comes back, doesn't someone have to go out?

 

[Peat]

What is the current alignment of the Pens front office?
So if Botts comes back, doesn't someone have to go out?

Rutherford never appointed a new AGM when Guerin left, just shuffled around responsibilities among the guys already there. Bringing a guy in and shuffling again seems relatively straight forwards.

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

Only if he can beat out Ray Shero for the 2nd AGM slot.

 

[tom_servo]

What's Botterill really good for? Someone remind me.

 

[66-30-33]

What's Botterill really good for? Someone remind me.

The cap and maybe better at the farm team over Guerin? can't remember.

 

[tom_servo]

The cap and maybe better at the farm team over Guerin? can't remember.

The cap? Was Botterill the only guy in the room with a licensed version of Excel?

His talent evaluation in Buffalo was really suspect. I don't care who the owners are.

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Who needs scouts before a draft anyways?

Just ask posters at HF who they should draft. They always are sure enough of who it should be to be outraged.

 

[Pens1566]

That level of gutting tells me they think it wasn't just Botterill. So, good for them. Maybe they finally realized what a terrible org they've been running.

To answer the OP, wouldn't surprise me in the least for him to come back. Never brought in anyone when Guerin left. JB would be in an ideal spot for a few years at least. Can rehab his rep (or wash the Buffalo off, depending on how you look at it) and be primed for his next gig. Whether it's here or elsewhere.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

Working for the Pegulas seems horrific.

I haven't really followed the story, what did they do?

 

[bambamcam4ever]

The guy has a reason to be, if we're being honest, but Eichel strikes me as a bit of a prima donna. Like, late 90's Jagr.

Dude's gonna be dying alive sooner than later.

Eichel is a ginger. You can never trust those.

 

[Mario_is_BACK!!]

I haven't really followed the story, what did they do?

Horrible meddlers who focus on just themselves and expect things to be run like a business. Immediate results and whatnot.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I haven't really followed the story, what did they do?

As mentioned above, they meddle far too much and then expect greatness without really heeding the advice of the professionals and experts they hire and instead, ingrain themselves into the day to day stuff and ruin their own franchise. They were one of the first NHL teams to fire people during the height of the pandemic while others were finding ways to make sure their staff got paid, they fired people then, then started to fire people they said were safe, and that would be ok if they didn't hire someone that is now the least qualified person in the GM ranks.

That Sabres ownership is going to NEED Jack Eichel to DEMAND a trade to really get how stupid they are.

It's what pisses me off the most about the draft lottery, some poor bloke is going to end up there and be subject to that bullshit. If any prospect is smart, they don't sign past their ELC and asked to be released.