Pre-Game Talk: Bolts @ Habs -- Calling Elvis -- Tues. April 2nd

[groovejuice]

That is true. But I wouldn't call calling him not trash overzealous. So far he's been a good 4th line winger.

In fact if Kk were in midseason form, I'd rather see Weal with Drouin and Kk to make more offensive and Armia on the 4th to solidify the 4th line defensively...

I just prefer Weal to the 4 in the press box, plus agostino, chaput, pleks, etc... He's so far been a ttue two player - responsible defensively and has some offense. Again a good 4th liner for us.

Byron and Danault started on the 4th and proved to be more. Greg Stewart started on the 4th and, like Dlo, proved to be less. It can go either way. But for now he's earned a spot. And given his contributions and effort, I think posters should show more respect than to call him trash.

I never crap on players. Even Drouin, who I'm not a fan of at all, is doing what should have been expected of him. There were actually posters here who opined that he was impetus behind the junior success of he and MacKinnon.

There is a tenancy of applying confirmation bias to newish players to fulfill a need to cheer when there is little else to cheer about. Sometimes these players are diamonds in the rough (metaphor used correctly, MB!) but mostly they are as advertised.

 

[groovejuice]

Well he's not playing like trash at the moment and that's really all that matters for the next game.

No argument from me. He's looked pretty good, but I won't jump to conclusions either way.

 

[26Mats]

I never crap on players. Even Drouin, who I'm not a fan of at all, is doing what should have been expected of him. There were actually posters here who opined that he was impetus behind the junior success of he and MacKinnon.

There is a tenancy of applying confirmation bias to newish players to fulfill a need to cheer when there is little else to cheer about. Sometimes these players are diamonds in the rough (metaphor used correctly, MB!) but mostly they are as advertised.

I'm not a Bergevin supporter, but he is good in the Bargain bin. So when he brings in depth guys, I give them the benefit of the doubt - that they may be more than what they have been elsewhere so far...

Danault, Weise (1st time, when we got him for Diaz, and he got us Danault), Byron, and ... Radulov (that he really screwed up by not resigning) are the 4 best examples. Hopefully Kulak, Folin, and Weal will be the latest examples, and not a Reilly or a Dlo that looked good at first then faded. Weaver and Niemi also had good stints, but were on their last legs and kept on past their expiration dates...

And I don't agree with those that say he's just throwing s__t on the wall and seeing what sticks. These are similar to draft picks - they're free assets, where a few will pan out and most will fail. They are what they are. And I applaud his efforts - if only he could bring in and retain more big fish like Domi and Radulov...

 

[Tuggy]

No argument from me. He's looked pretty good, but I won't jump to conclusions either way.

I'm sure he'll turn into a pumpkin. More in form players at the moment, the better.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Thats crazy. No team in their right mind wants to face Mtl. And Price lol

Yeah, i'm sure Tampa is scared of us.

Edit: Maybe you are sarcastic.

 

[llamateizer]

Weal is just a low grade 3rd liner or middling 4th liner who produces 20 points in 70 games. There is no room for GROWTH and him having a spike in production over the long term.

Byron had ordinary stats with CGY before coming with MTL.
now he is part of the team's core.

I wouldn't count him out yet.
I'd give him 2-3 years before throwing the towel

 

[admiralcadillac]

There were an awful lot of posters who jumped hard on the Deslauriers bandwagon when he got some big goals early. Look how that turned out.

Best to be cautious with unknown quantities and not make overzealous pronouncements.

I agree but the only one thus far has actually been that Weal is trash...

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Byron had ordinary stats with CGY before coming with MTL.
now he is part of the team's core.

I wouldn't count him out yet.
I'd give him 2-3 years before throwing the towel

Byron has never paced better than .5 PPG a season. Byron is not f***ing Andrew Ladd here.

 

[teamfirst]

There were an awful lot of posters who jumped hard on the Deslauriers bandwagon when he got some big goals early. Look how that turned out.

Best to be cautious with unknown quantities and not make overzealous pronouncements.

Very well said but i think you replied to the wrong post......should have been this one

''Some of the recency bias around here for Jordan Weal is hilarious he was a healthy scratch all year for the Arizona Coyotes how is that defined as anything other than trash.''

 

[jaffy27]

Very well said but i think you replied to the wrong post......should have been this one

''Some of the recency bias around here for Jordan Weal is hilarious he was a healthy scratch all year for the Arizona Coyotes how is that defined as anything other than trash.''

Arizona is the organization that screwed up with Domi and traded away Perlini and Strome........it’s no wonder they in the dumpsters year in year out

 

[Tanknation]

Tampa let's us win this one! They would love to play us in the playoffs. We would work them out a tiny bit, but at the same time, they would not break to much of a sweat heading into round 2.

 

[jaffy27]

Tampa let's us win this one! They would love to play us in the playoffs. We would work them out a tiny bit, but at the same time, they would not break to much of a sweat heading into round 2.

I remember Washington thinking the same thing a few years back.....complacency is like assumptions, mothers of all f*** ups

 

[teamfirst]

Arizona is the organization that screwed up with Domi and traded away Perlini and Strome........it’s no wonder they in the dumpsters year in year out

Yeah but i heard their GM is a hell of a tanker

 

[Squats]

Weal is just a low grade 3rd liner or middling 4th liner who produces 20 points in 70 games. There is no room for GROWTH and him having a spike in production over the long term.

why not give him a chance? he's actually creative with the puck on the PP, he's got good hands too. He's got some upside

 

[SirClintonPortis]

why not give him a chance? he's actually creative with the puck on the PP, he's got good hands too. He's got some upside

Teams don't make it far with too many 40 point players in their top 6.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Hedman is out the remaining games.

Girardi and Stralman out, as well. But they may play before the season is over.

Chances are that Habs may face Pasquale and no Hedman, Girardi, and Stralman.

 

[UVMCats]

Byron has never paced better than .5 PPG a season. Byron is not ****ing Andrew Ladd here.

You seem very bitter.

 

[llamateizer]

Hedman is out the remaining games.

Girardi and Stralman out, as well. But they may play before the season is over.

Chances are that Habs may face Pasquale and no Hedman, Girardi, and Stralman.

I wonder if they have better D core than us without those 3.

27

D

MCDONAGH, RYAN

33

D

GAUNCE, CAMERON

81

D

CERNAK, ERIK

44

D

RUTTA, JAN

55

D

COBURN, BRAYDON

98

D

SERGACHEV, MIKHAIL

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[HuGo Sham]

Hedman is out the remaining games.

Girardi and Stralman out, as well. But they may play before the season is over.

Chances are that Habs may face Pasquale and no Hedman, Girardi, and Stralman.

still an incredibly dangerous team. that can outscore their injured D problems...and we'll see the quebec goalie factor

 

[Tyson]

still an incredibly dangerous team. that can outscore their injured D problems...and we'll see the quebec goalie factor

They are so deep, world class organization built by Stevie Y.

 

[LeHab]

Vasilevsky playing against Sens tonight. Two games in two nights + no vasy, hedman and possibly others?

 

[Habs Icing]

Arizona is the organization that screwed up with Domi and traded away Perlini and Strome........it’s no wonder they in the dumpsters year in year out

No, no no. You got your numbers wrong. Their GM is an analytics guru. He knows what he's doing. Go look at the numbers within the numbers and you'll see he has built a SC contender..

 

[Habs Icing]

Teams don't make it far with too many 40 point players in their top 6.

This post would make sense if Weal was played in the top 6 .

 

[Habs Icing]

still an incredibly dangerous team. that can outscore their injured D problems...and we'll see the quebec goalie factor

Pasquale is a T.O. boy.

 

[Habs Icing]

They are so deep, world class organization built by Stevie Y.

I can remember how hurt Stevie Y was when the Habs were looking to replace Gainey and they didn't ask to interview him. What a missed opportunity.