arsmaster said:Anyways, mike fisher and Dave Legwand are probably the fair expectations, but neither of those players seemed to have the intangibles/winner connotation attached to them like Horvat does.
We know he plays better in bigger games
i dont think thats a particularly useful distinction to attach to someone
i dont think thats a particularly useful distinction to attach to someone
is that a thing we know? how do we know that? anticipating what you're going to use to justify it, how do you know its not just an issue with sample size
Honestly, players like this are pretty hard to project, because most of it comes down to whether they have "it" around the net. Some guys just have that skillset to be 13-15% type shooters because of where they get to on the ice and their hands. Some guys are 10-11% shooters.
If Horvat is the former, he's probably a more proficient 5v4 player and likely has a higher offensive ceiling, but I don't know how comfortable people could be making an assertion one way or another at this point.
In addition, when you see the one-time pass he made into the slot over the weekend at the WJC, you see a player that might have the playmaking ability/vision to be a step above typical 2nd line players. But who knows, really. I get the optimism.
The best reason to be optimistic is that he has the type of skillset that projects to develop in the NHL, because he can be a third/fourth liner as he learns his craft. That could mean we see him sooner than later regardless of his ceiling.
We made a mistake drafting him over nish, but who cares, he will be a solid 2nd/3rd line center for this team.
overreaction from one WJC?
We made a mistake drafting him over nish, but who cares, he will be a solid 2nd/3rd line center for this team.
It's not just the WJC, It's the size and potential that nish has that horvat does not.
The guy is huge, he skates incredibly well for a big guy, seems to have good hockey IQ. He reminds me of rick nash
The only problem with nish is that he is Russian and might be an ego during contract talk times.
Nish top end potential = Rick Nash, Burns
Horvat top end potential = Andrew ladd?, Bergeron?
Funny thing is, Andrew Ladd and Bergeron both have cup rings. And both played a role in helping the team with a cup.
There should be a moratorium on Nichushkin talk on HF Canucks, particularly if connected to Horvat.
The only players on the team Canada that have played better to this point are Sam Reinhart and Curtis Lazar.
Horvat is an extremely smart player with great hockey sense, he may not become a top scorer immediately but I feel we have a Jonathon Toews lite type of player. If Toews is an 80 pt player, Horvat will consistently be a 60-70 pt player and also an extremely valuable piece in the playoffs as well.
Have seen maybe 1/2 of the games so far, and I'm wondering if Horvat might be playing sick like some others are. He looks completely gassed after every shift. Maybe his conditioning isn't that great? Maybe skating more on the bigger ice wears him out?
Have seen maybe 1/2 of the games so far, and I'm wondering if Horvat might be playing sick like some others are. He looks completely gassed after every shift. Maybe his conditioning isn't that great? Maybe skating more on the bigger ice wears him out?
gassed after one rush up the ice. another "great two-way" player that can't skate.
looks exactly like Hodgson
plays with the same lack of intensity all over the ice too..
Great insight. He obv sucks. Trade him for pucks while his values high. Oh lord why didn't we take Nichushkin, the greatest player ever to score 7 goals in a half season ...