Blues Trade Proposals Part XXX

[EastonBlues22]

Carry on and such.

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[Real Smart Sens Fan]

Hi guys - Sens fan checking in.

How has Upshall been this year? Do you think you guys will trade him if you slip out of the playoff race a little and, if so, how much do you think he would return?

Thanks

 

[bleedblue1223]

Hi guys - Sens fan checking in.

How has Upshall been this year? Do you think you guys will trade him if you slip out of the playoff race a little and, if so, how much do you think he would return?

Thanks

He's a great 4th liner. We probably bring him back since we aren't rebuilding, just retooling.

 

[Vincenzo Arelliti]

Upshall-Brodziak-Reaves is probably the best 4th line in the NHL. Upshall is quick, can score, and likes to hit. There's no better 4th line winger, imo. He could even play on some team's 3rd lines.

Will we trade him? Sure, if the return is decent. I can't see us trading him for anything less than a decent prospect or a 3rd, though. Keeping him on that line is money.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

He's a great 4th liner. We probably bring him back since we aren't rebuilding, just retooling.

Ah, thats what I was worried about would have really liked him as a deadline pickup but it makes sense that you guys would look to retain him.

 

[Real Smart Sens Fan]

Upshall-Brodziak-Reaves is probably the best 4th line in the NHL. Upshall is quick, can score, and likes to hit. There's no better 4th line winger, imo. He could even play on some team's 3rd lines.

Will we trade him? Sure, if the return is decent. I can't see us trading him for anything less than a decent prospect or a 3rd, though. Keeping him on that line is money.

Thanks for the response - he reminds me of Tommy Wingels, who the Sens just picked up, to a certain degree. Quick, can score, can play physical, and can move around the bottom 6.

I don't think the Sens can afford to give up a 3rd for him, though... we are pretty pick-poor right now. I could see them looking at giving up Nick Paul, but that would be contingent on management falling a little out of love with him.

Anyways, thanks a lot for the quick response!

 

[LetsGoBooze]

Not that it specifically means anything but Berglund made TSN's top 10 trade bait list. If we decided to move him and considering Fiddler returned a 4th, Bergie's return could be pretty nice this year.

Berglund

for

Bitten
2nd

OR possibly if his value keeps increasing and if the speak of team's not valuing their possible late 1sts this year as much (due to the 'weak' draft)

Berglund
2nd

for

1st

 

[simon IC]

Not that it specifically means anything but Berglund made TSN's top 10 trade bait list. If we decided to move him and considering Fiddler returned a 4th, Bergie's return could be pretty nice this year.

Berglund

for

Bitten
3rd

Okay, I know I'm to get bombarded with "size doesn't matter" replies, but after seeing how much we miss Backes, (and to a lesser extent Brouwer), we trade our last 6'4" top 6 forward, who has been playing well lately, using his size and hitting, for a 5'10" 170 lb prospect and a 2nd? I'm sorry man, but that just bothers me.

 

[Mike Liut]

What are peoples thoughts about trading Petro for a Draisaitl type of return? The signing Shatty to a 6x6 type of contract.

 

[Spektre]

What are peoples thoughts about trading Petro for a Draisaitl type of return? The signing Shatty to a 6x6 type of contract.

Get ready... get set.. get your Cap'n 'Merica shield up because the flak is coming lol

 

[Spektre]

Okay, I know I'm to get bombarded with "size doesn't matter" replies, but after seeing how much we miss Backes, (and to a lesser extent Brouwer), we trade our last 6'4" top 6 forward, who has been playing well lately, using his size and hitting, for a 5'10" 170 lb prospect and a 2nd? I'm sorry man, but that just bothers me.

Gimme 12 little Stevie Y's @ 180lbs

 

[Mike Liut]

Get ready... get set.. get your Cap'n 'Merica shield up because the flak is coming lol

What we are doing isnt working. Id look at doing something like this.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

What are peoples thoughts about trading Petro for a Draisaitl type of return? The signing Shatty to a 6x6 type of contract.

Absolutely not. I'm a big Shattenkirk fan, but if it comes down to Petro vs Shatty, I keep Petro a thousand times out of a hundred.

 

[simon IC]

Draisatl for Pietrangelo is not that far off, value -wise. Because elite D are that much more valuable, I would say Edmonton adds. I wouldn't do it right now, because it would decimate our RD, but I love Draisatl.

 

[BangarangxRufio]

What are peoples thoughts about trading Petro for a Draisaitl type of return? The signing Shatty to a 6x6 type of contract.

No thank you... Petro would need to return a better return in my opinion. Draisaitl isnt established enough for me for bet Petro on. It was only like a season ago that Shatty alone almost landed him... Tavares is the #1C I would trade Petro for, or Duchene+Landy

 

[Mike Liut]

No thank you... Petro would need to return a better return in my opinion. Draisaitl isnt established enough for me for bet Petro on. It was only like a season ago that Shatty alone almost landed him... Tavares is the #1C I would trade Petro for, or Duchene+Landy

I said a Draisaitl type of player. If its somebody else and possible better, that's the idea. We need a true #1 center and will probably not take a step forward without one.

 

[Mike Liut]

Absolutely not. I'm a big Shattenkirk fan, but if it comes down to Petro vs Shatty, I keep Petro a thousand times out of a hundred.

I understand that, but, you arent getting a Draisaitl return for Shatty. That's the difference.

 

[BangarangxRufio]

I said a Draisaitl type of player. If its somebody else and possible better, that's the idea. We need a true #1 center and will probably not take a step forward without one.

I agree, but I wouldn't trade Pietrangelo for anything less than a top 10 Center. I dont consider Draisaitl to be there yet. But he is a good player and its looking like he will be for a while, I personally dont see a gamble that large being worth it.

 

[Dbrownss]

I understand that, but, you arent getting a Draisaitl return for Shatty. That's the difference.

No one expects that.

 

[Fez Whatley]

How bad does it actually make our defense? Ive always been in favor of getting rid of Petro even though i love him in the playoffs, if it means getting a franchise center (not too sure if draisaitl is one). Whats wrong with getting a nice young center and bringing up Schmaltz for the rest of the season. We could even trade Shatty for futures.
JBo - Parayko
Ed - Schmaltz
Gunnar - Bortz

 

[RORbacon]

How bad does it actually make our defense? Ive always been in favor of getting rid of Petro even though i love him in the playoffs, if it means getting a franchise center (not too sure if draisaitl is one). Whats wrong with getting a nice young center and bringing up Schmaltz for the rest of the season. We could even trade Shatty for futures.
JBo - Parayko
Ed - Schmaltz
Gunnar - Bortz

That is an awful top 4D and is the reason the Blues shouldn't and won't move Petro.

 

[BangarangxRufio]

How bad does it actually make our defense? Ive always been in favor of getting rid of Petro even though i love him in the playoffs, if it means getting a franchise center (not too sure if draisaitl is one). Whats wrong with getting a nice young center and bringing up Schmaltz for the rest of the season. We could even trade Shatty for futures.
JBo - Parayko
Ed - Schmaltz
Gunnar - Bortz

Bold=Liabilities

AND

I havent seen Schmaltz in the NHL so putting him Top4 D is a solid leap of faith and pressure on a kid that should have a season to adapt.

 

[Bluesnatic27]

I understand that, but, you arent getting a Draisaitl return for Shatty. That's the difference.

I have always hated this line of thought.

To me, it's the equivelant of saying "let's trade someone because he has value". That's not to imply that was your line of thought, but that's how I see the situation.

If I were to trade Pietrangelo, and that's a big if, the only way I would do it is if we we are acquiring talent that would undoubtedly improve the team. The problem is there aren't many players in the league I would do that for.

 

[Mike Liut]

No one expects that.

That's my point. Signing Shatty and trading Petro would be such a better return than trading Shatty for whatever Army can get at this point, which doesn't seem like a lot.

JBo - Parayko
Ed - Shatty
Gunnar - Bortz

 

[Mike Liut]

I'm only trading Petro if Shatty is re-signed. We can't lose both