BHawk21
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Proposal: Blackhawks-Rangers-Seattle
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Rangers win this deal. They save money. They upgrade kakko to gourde and make Chicago pay gourde to play for ny. Rangers should have to add sweeteners to both Chicago and Seattle.
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Not a terrible proposal, but I agree with the other poster. I think Rangers add pick to one of Chicago or Seattle for retention.
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Because you can afford it and Kakko is better than Reichel
Clever proposal.
As to whether Seattle would trade Gourde, my guess is probably not this year. He probably still fetches a 1st next year. Francis is very comfortable having a middling team and trying to build from there. He's not in a hurry to get younger.
I do think Reichel would be a good buy low player. Though he is terribly soft and I'm not sure he fits in Seattle's forechecking style. If he can adapt to it though he would be a great add. The skill is there.
As to whether Seattle would trade Gourde, my guess is probably not this year. He probably still fetches a 1st next year. Francis is very comfortable having a middling team and trying to build from there. He's not in a hurry to get younger.
I do think Reichel would be a good buy low player. Though he is terribly soft and I'm not sure he fits in Seattle's forechecking style. If he can adapt to it though he would be a great add. The skill is there.
I hate this for Seattle. Gourde killed my Avs in the playoffs last year. He was their best player IMO. Such a puck hound and net front menace.
Reichel isn't worth that and hasn't shown he can be that level of player.
Totally amazing deal for the Rangers though. Love it for them so much.
You must be joking dude. Groude at 50% retained for two playoff runs would be such a home run deal for the Rangers. Rangers win this deal hugely.
It's Seattle that easily declines this proposal.
Groude would be in line to fetch a 1st next trade deadline at 50% retained... Assuming his team isn't in the playoff hunt, which is a bad assumption IMO. They are in this season's playoff hunt.
He is worth far more than either of these two underwhelming young players. Groude is a playoff proven Center that is tough and puck hungry. He's a 2C the Avs or any number of other teams could use. You know who else could use Groude... Seattle!
He is worth far more than either of these two underwhelming young players. Groude is a playoff proven Center that is tough and puck hungry. He's a 2C the Avs or any number of other teams could use. You know who else could use Groude... Seattle!
we have a dif of op
long term KK = mo upside
I want Rs to effin capitulate, recognize he has chem w/Cuylle and they need a pivot
I don't want a deal
BHawk21
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Id say both Reichel and Kakko are still worth a mid/late 1st at this point.
Kakko 2nd overall and 22 years old coming off 40 point season no pp time. struggling this season 14 min a game.
Reichel 17th overall 21 years old ppg in AHL and 15 points in 23 games last season struggling this season 14 min a game.
Gourde is 32 years old on a expiring contract with 20 points in 48 games. His value would be previous playoff play and positional/lineup flexibility.
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If Seattle is moving Gourde, they will only have Beniers, who is having a bit of a sophomore slump, as their lone legitimate NHL center signed for next season.
Trading Gourde would signal the team is likely embracing a tank year and would easilty be able to handle the full retention themselves, thereby maximizing the return.
A fully retained Gourde for two playoff runs should return more than Lukas Reichel.
I think Seattle easily declines here.
Trading Gourde would signal the team is likely embracing a tank year and would easilty be able to handle the full retention themselves, thereby maximizing the return.
A fully retained Gourde for two playoff runs should return more than Lukas Reichel.
I think Seattle easily declines here.
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I don't think this is great for Seattle. Reichel has had a tough year on a team where atleast in theory he should have had every change to play lots of minutes and force his way to top minutes in all offensive situations. Seattle could easily get a 1st for Gourde, and for him at 50% retained for 2 playoff runs they can get a 1st, decent prospect and a mid round pick.
Is Reichel's value right now that of a late 1st and a B prospect and a mid round pick? The fact that he has to pass through waivers starting next season also makes it tough for his value as the trading team will have to commit to a roster spot (and the associated pressure on the team to give a player like that decent minutes).
Is Reichel's value right now that of a late 1st and a B prospect and a mid round pick? The fact that he has to pass through waivers starting next season also makes it tough for his value as the trading team will have to commit to a roster spot (and the associated pressure on the team to give a player like that decent minutes).
