Big Rfa contract this summer

[Englishcoyote]

Justed looked at the contract that need negotiating this summer and a few are very important to the future of the coyotes...... rieder, stone, Murphy, Louis d, dahlbeck, klaus dahlbeck, Kevin connauton, gaudet.

And then other rfa's that Iam not sure what gmdm will do with them include plotnikov, selkac, tinordi, Phil Samuelson, Brendan s, Christian Thomas, Nick turtle, and Jordan Schwartz,




Think there could be a couple of those in the second group traded at the draft to move up or down a pick...... What do other people think

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[MIGs Dog]

Justed looked at the contract that need negotiating this summer and a few are very important to the future of the coyotes...... rieder, stone, Murphy, Louis d, dahlbeck, klaus dahlbeck, Kevin connauton, gaudet.

And then other rfa's that Iam not sure what gmdm will do with them include plotnikov, selkac, tinordi, Phil Samuelson, Brendan s, Christian Thomas, Nick turtle, and Jordan Schwartz,




Think there could be a couple of those in the second group traded at the draft to move up or down a pick...... What do other people think

LOVE Rieder. Out of the dmen KConn's stock has risen over the past couple weeks. Lou D has proven he's earned the backup role.

 

[Ebb]

RFAs (italics for my preference when there are multiple options)
Plotnikov - Re-sign (2-3 years) for around his current amount
Rieder - Re-sign long-term (4-5 years), say $2 mill per season
Stone - Re-sign 3-4 years at around 2 million per season
Murphy - Re-sign 4-5 years at around 2 million per season
Connauton - Re-sign for 2-3 years at around 1.2 million per season
Domingue - Re-sign for 2-3 years at roughly 2 million per season
Gaudet - Re-sign for 3-5 years with a slight raise from what he's making now
Sekac - Move or re-sign (1-2 years) for around current amount (if not a bit less)
Dahlbeck - Move or re-sign for around 750 k
Shinnimin - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons at around 650k
P. Samuelson - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons with a slight raise
Thomas - Re-sign for 2-3 years (for the farm)
Fournier - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons (for the farm)
Treutle - Release or re-sign for 1-2 seasons (for the farm)
Tinordi - Move or release
Szwarz - Move or release
Cunningham - Move or release

UFAs
Doan - Re-sign for 1-2 seasons (if he doesn't retire)
Tanguay - Re-sign for 1-2 seasons (if he doesn't retire)
Gordon - Attempt to re-sign for 2 seasons, but only at around 1.5 million per season
Tikhonov - Resign for 2 seasons at around 1.2 million per season
Chipchura - DO NOT RE-SIGN
Grossmann - DO NOT RE-SIGN
Lindback - No offer
Downie - No offer
D. Smith - No offer
Reese - No offer
Selleck - No offer
A. Grant - Offer 2 years (for the farm)

 

[_Del_]

RFAs (italics for my preference when there are multiple options)

I'd like us to be bright enough to keep some of the undesirables for Springfield to ice a competitive team there, but we clearly don't give a damn about our affiliate (and Tippett would probably keep some of the names in the NHL), so I doubt that happens.

 

[ck26]

Ebb, yikes ...

You won't get Stone, Murphy or Rieder for that long and that cheap.

You already want 5 years of Gaudet? Why?

You already want 2 years of Tanguay? Why?

Keeping Fournier but dumping Szwarz? Why?

You generally won't get 3 year extensions for anyone (Plotnikov) without a raise.

 

[cobra427]

RFAs (italics for my preference when there are multiple options)
Plotnikov - Re-sign (2-3 years) for around his current amount
Rieder - Re-sign long-term (4-5 years), say $2 mill per season
Stone - Re-sign 3-4 years at around 2 million per season
Murphy - Re-sign 4-5 years at around 2 million per season
Connauton - Re-sign for 2-3 years at around 1.2 million per season
Domingue - Re-sign for 2-3 years at roughly 2 million per season
Gaudet - Re-sign for 3-5 years with a slight raise from what he's making now
Sekac - Move or re-sign (1-2 years) for around current amount (if not a bit less)
Dahlbeck - Move or re-sign for around 750 k
Shinnimin - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons at around 650k
P. Samuelson - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons with a slight raise
Thomas - Re-sign for 2-3 years (for the farm)
Fournier - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons (for the farm)
Treutle - Release or re-sign for 1-2 seasons (for the farm)
Tinordi - Move or release
Szwarz - Move or release
Cunningham - Move or release

UFAs
Doan - Re-sign for 1-2 seasons (if he doesn't retire)
Tanguay - Re-sign for 1-2 seasons (if he doesn't retire)
Gordon - Attempt to re-sign for 2 seasons, but only at around 1.5 million per season
Tikhonov - Resign for 2 seasons at around 1.2 million per season
Chipchura - DO NOT RE-SIGN
Grossmann - DO NOT RE-SIGN
Lindback - No offer
Downie - No offer
D. Smith - No offer
Reese - No offer
Selleck - No offer
A. Grant - Offer 2 years (for the farm)

Reider/Stone/Murphy/Kconn/LD are the important signings. Reider/Stone/Murphy will cost more then you have suggested. Doan will be easy to sign if he wants to play.

The rest are filler, not many takers for the UFA's and no rights for the RFA's, doesn't matter much. All about money and fit.

 

[Mosby]

I hope we don't lock ourselves into long-term deals when it's not necessary to do so.

Connauton, for example, has been impressive but I'd prefer to give him a a string of one years to make sure we know what we have here.

Plotkinov and Sekac have done nothing to warrant an extension. I also hope we move on from Jordan Szwarz. I'd like to re-sign Cunningham. I'd lean toward an outright release of Jarred Tinordi.

I could go either way on Tikhonov. I'm more in favor if he takes a 2-way deal.

Doan, Tanguay, and Gordon (especially Gordon) should only be given one-year deals. We'll happily keep doing that as long as their performance holds up.

 

[Nordic*]

You don't like Grossman's contributions?

 

[Englishcoyote]

RFAs (italics for my preference when there are multiple options)
Plotnikov - Re-sign (2-3 years) for around his current amount
Rieder - Re-sign long-term (4-5 years), say $2 mill per season
Stone - Re-sign 3-4 years at around 2 million per season
Murphy - Re-sign 4-5 years at around 2 million per season
Connauton - Re-sign for 2-3 years at around 1.2 million per season
Domingue - Re-sign for 2-3 years at roughly 2 million per season
Gaudet - Re-sign for 3-5 years with a slight raise from what he's making now
Sekac - Move or re-sign (1-2 years) for around current amount (if not a bit less)
Dahlbeck - Move or re-sign for around 750 k
Shinnimin - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons at around 650k
P. Samuelson - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons with a slight raise
Thomas - Re-sign for 2-3 years (for the farm)
Fournier - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons (for the farm)
Treutle - Release or re-sign for 1-2 seasons (for the farm)
Tinordi - Move or release
Szwarz - Move or release
Cunningham - Move or release

UFAs
Doan - Re-sign for 1-2 seasons (if he doesn't retire)
Tanguay - Re-sign for 1-2 seasons (if he doesn't retire)
Gordon - Attempt to re-sign for 2 seasons, but only at around 1.5 million per season
Tikhonov - Resign for 2 seasons at around 1.2 million per season
Chipchura - DO NOT RE-SIGN
Grossmann - DO NOT RE-SIGN
Lindback - No offer
Downie - No offer
D. Smith - No offer
Reese - No offer
Selleck - No offer
A. Grant - Offer 2 years (for the farm)

Think it will cost more to resign rieder, Murphy and stone. Louie will bring expecting at least a 50% raise over 2 yrs

 

[Englishcoyote]

I hope we don't lock ourselves into long-term deals when it's not necessary to do so.

Connauton, for example, has been impressive but I'd prefer to give him a a string of one years to make sure we know what we have here.

Plotkinov and Sekac have done nothing to warrant an extension. I also hope we move on from Jordan Szwarz. I'd like to re-sign Cunningham. I'd lean toward an outright release of Jarred Tinordi.

I could go either way on Tikhonov. I'm more in favor if he takes a 2-way deal.

Doan, Tanguay, and Gordon (especially Gordon) should only be given one-year deals. We'll happily keep doing that as long as their performance holds up.

Thinking your spot on there, there's a couple of players in the Rfa/ufa group that we don't resign, selkac, shinnimin, downie can definitely be moved on for me

 

[OriginalJetsCoyotes]

They better not let Dahlback or any of our young D walk after letting Gormley and Elliott go. They may not have been good but we need D in our cupboards.

 

[Jacksover9s]

RFAs (italics for my preference when there are multiple options)
Plotnikov - Re-sign (2-3 years) for around his current amount
Rieder - Re-sign long-term (4-5 years), say $2 mill per season
Stone - Re-sign 3-4 years at around 2 million per season
Murphy - Re-sign 4-5 years at around 2 million per season
Connauton - Re-sign for 2-3 years at around 1.2 million per season
Domingue - Re-sign for 2-3 years at roughly 2 million per season
Gaudet - Re-sign for 3-5 years with a slight raise from what he's making now
Sekac - Move or re-sign (1-2 years) for around current amount (if not a bit less)
Dahlbeck - Move or re-sign for around 750 k
Shinnimin - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons at around 650k
P. Samuelson - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons with a slight raise
Thomas - Re-sign for 2-3 years (for the farm)
Fournier - Move or re-sign for 2-3 seasons (for the farm)
Treutle - Release or re-sign for 1-2 seasons (for the farm)
Tinordi - Move or release
Szwarz - Move or release
Cunningham - Move or release

UFAs
Doan - Re-sign for 1-2 seasons (if he doesn't retire)
Tanguay - Re-sign for 1-2 seasons (if he doesn't retire)
Gordon - Attempt to re-sign for 2 seasons, but only at around 1.5 million per season
Tikhonov - Resign for 2 seasons at around 1.2 million per season
Chipchura - DO NOT RE-SIGN
Grossmann - DO NOT RE-SIGN
Lindback - No offer
Downie - No offer
D. Smith - No offer
Reese - No offer
Selleck - No offer
A. Grant - Offer 2 years (for the farm)

Tiknhonov,Plotnikov, Sekac all can go. They're just roster filler to finish out the year. No interest in bringing any of them back.

A lot of your salary values are way off. Why would Reider and Murphy sign away 5 years at 2 million/year? They'll either get a long term deal around 3.5 - 4 million/year or we'll sign them to a short term, 2 year deal for less AAV. No way that happens.

 

[Sinurgy]

Tier 1:
Doan
Murphy
Rieder
Stone
Domingue

Tier 2:
Connauton
Tanguay (all about term here)
Dahlback
Gaudet

On the bubble:
Tikhonov
Plotnikov
Gordon
Tinordi

 

[XX]

RFAs (italics for my preference when there are multiple options)

You should probably familiarize yourself with salaries around the league.

I only see Murphy potentially taking a bridge. I'd offer Rieder Boedker's old old deal (3.25 x5 or thereabouts)

 

[Kaibur]

Murphy: $1.75M X 2yr bridge
Stone: $3.5M X 4 yr
Rieder: $2.25M X 3yr
Doan: $3M X 2yr

I think they'll keep one of Shinnimin/Szwarz/Cunningham for continuity sake. Personally, I hope it's Shinnimin, but I don't think it much matters. Whoever it is will probably be passed by on the depth chart pretty quickly. Lot of prospects on the AHL squad next year.

 

[Ebb]

Not a big multi-quoter, so I'll just jot out my thoughts here...

I was definitely low on Murphy, Stone (although I sort of wish we'd move him), and Reider, but we're looking at a 2nd line winger, a 2nd line defender (Murphy), and a 4th/3rd line defender (Stone) so I wouldn't overpay them (again I was low)

Szwarz is probably NHL worthy (4th line), but he won't get that here

Gaudet is a good Center, I'd prefer to move on from Gordon and see him as a decent replacement for 4th line duty. I'd prefer 3 years (and possibly 4) on him rather than 5

I like what I've seen from Plotnikov; he's a hitter (not a scorer)

Fournier for the farm. I think we need to totally re-vamp the farm, consistency be damned! If we move on from the ones I mention, I expect DM to sign some new players for the farm along with prospects.

Nah, don't really care about researching realistic salary expectations around the league (that's what y'all are for ) ; plus, we are a budget team so most of those contracts would be very beneficial anyway. Rarely will someone put in an offer sheet for an RFA, and most of ours aren't going to garner much interest.

 

[ck26]

Rarely will someone put in an offer sheet for an RFA, and most of ours aren't going to garner much interest.

Generally I would agree, but we might want to get an extension in place for Toby Reeder / Tobias Rider sooner rather than later. He's an interesting kid, and the compensation up to $3.6m is just a 2nd. There's a price right around $2.8m or so where his speed and hands and PK ability look awfully tempting. If Korpikoski's Big Bag of Nothing earns him $2.5m and Boyd Gordon's faceoffs and 4 points/season get him $3m, there is a really good chance that someone might try to swipe our German. Obviously we can match, but what if a Toronto or an Edmonton offer 5x3.0? Are we married to him?

 

[XX]

what if a Toronto or an Edmonton offer 5x3.0? Are we married to him?

I'd happily give that to him. Consider his age. How likely is it that he becomes completely useless over the span of that deal? I'd say it's more likely he greatly exceeds the AAV of that deal, with better forwards on a team with something to play for.

 

[Jakey53]

Murphy: $1.75M X 2yr bridge
Stone: $3.5M X 4 yr
Rieder: $2.25M X 3yr
Doan: $3M X 2yr

I think they'll keep one of Shinnimin/Szwarz/Cunningham for continuity sake. Personally, I hope it's Shinnimin, but I don't think it much matters. Whoever it is will probably be passed by on the depth chart pretty quickly. Lot of prospects on the AHL squad next year.

Sorry but I don't agree with any of these, except Stone.