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[Deadly Dogma]

Tampa vs Toronto

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[Krewe]

This should be an easy choice. Forwards are a wash or advantage tampa, and D/G on tampa is way better

 

[WarriorOfGandhi]

lol

 

[Canadienna]

Gave the edge to Tampa simply due to Vasi, but I think other than Goaltending it's pretty even.

 

[LeafGrief]

Can't see the Leafs getting a lot of votes in this one. Vasilevsky tips the scales pretty hard and Tampa's D core is pretty nuts.

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Can't see the Leafs getting a lot of votes in this one. Vasilevsky tips the scales pretty hard and Tampa's D core is pretty nuts.

strip away all names and just look at this season, Campbell has better #'s
fwd wise with the addition of Foligno the Leafs now have a better fwd roster IMO
D d wise Hedman kills Rilley but after that Brodie, Muzzin, Holl have all been really good this yr

 

[authentic]

With Kucherov I still say Tampa, but it's really close either way.

 

[Advanced stats]

Leafs fan saying Tampa...that defense is

 

[Hockeyholic]

In a vacuum, one could maybe make the argument Matthews >Point. Or Matthews > Stamkos. Big maybe if it's one vs one. But Stamkos & Point on the same team make up the difference.

Stamkos>J.T.
Point>J.T.
Kucherov>Marner
Hedman>>>>>>>Rielly
McDonough>>>Brodie
Sergachev>Holl
Vasi>>>>>>>>Campbell

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

In a vacuum, one could maybe make the argument Matthews >Point. Or Matthews > Stamkos. Big maybe if it's one vs one. But Stamkos & Point on the same team make up the difference.

Stamkos>J.T.
Point>J.T.
Kucherov>Marner
Hedman>>>>>>>Rielly
McDonough>>>Brodie
Sergachev>Holl
Vasi>>>>>>>>Campbell

I think you meant to add a Matthews in your ranking somewhere.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Leaf fan voting for Tampa. They have the best Goalie by far, one of, if not the best D-man in the NHL in Hedman, and a stacked offence. They are definitely the favourite to win it all IMO. Toronto has a very good team but we finish 2nd in this poll.

 

[leafsfan5]

this isn't even a discussion

 

[Hockeyholic]

I think you meant to add a Matthews in your ranking somewhere.

Ok. Let's say Matthews>Point.

That's where it ends for Toronto. And there's not a massive gap in ability and production between said players.

That doesn't mean Toronto can't win in a 7 game series. It wouldn't be as stunning as the Jackets sweeping the Bolts. It's just unlikely.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Ok. Let's say Matthews>Point.

That's where it ends for Toronto. And there's not a massive gap in ability and production between said players.

That doesn't mean Toronto can't win in a 7 game series. It wouldn't be as stunning as the Jackets sweeping the Bolts. It's just unlikely.

I'm not really discussing who is better. Your post has JT listed twice for the Leafs instead of a Matthews. I'm just trying to help lol.

 

[613Leafer]

Tampa is ahead. Vasilevsky gives a big edge to TB, and Hedman is head and shoulders above any other dman on either roster. Otherwise, I think they're very close, but those are two pretty massive advantages.

 

[TopChedder]

Tampa is ahead. Vasilevsky gives a big edge to TB, and Hedman is head and shoulders above any other dman on either roster. Otherwise, I think they're very close, but those are two pretty massive advantages.

Agreed. Hedman is unreal and Vas in net is all world. Those pieces really set them apart.

But the amount of talent between these two teams is insane lol

 

[Hockeyholic]

A playoff series between the two would be the most entertaining in years.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

strip away all names and just look at this season, Campbell has better #'s
fwd wise with the addition of Foligno the Leafs now have a better fwd roster IMO
D d wise Hedman kills Rilley but after that Brodie, Muzzin, Holl have all been really good this yr

Come on, now.

 

[Hockeyholic]

strip away all names and just look at this season, Campbell has better #'s
fwd wise with the addition of Foligno the Leafs now have a better fwd roster IMO
D d wise Hedman kills Rilley but after that Brodie, Muzzin, Holl have all been really good this yr

Wow..

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Come on, now.

to play devils advocate Vasi is amazing and the best goalie in the world IMO but he still has losses lol Campbell is still perfect. Thats got to count for something

 

[Deadly Dogma]

Wow..

why wow? technically Campbell has better numbers this season.
Same with the top end talent up front.
Hedman kills Rielly but is it hard to believe that Brodie, Muzzin and Holl have been as solid as the rest of T.B D core?

 

[AvroArrow]

Why is this a thread ? Did the op actually think this was going to be close ?

 

[AvatarAang]

Tampa is on a tier of their own. Why did you have to make the Leafs as the other option, this is why everyone hates us.

 

[Hockeyholic]

why wow? technically Campbell has better numbers this season.
Same with the top end talent up front.
Hedman kills Rielly but is it hard to believe that Brodie, Muzzin and Holl have been as solid as the rest of T.B D core?

Because Vasi has played essentially every game. Obviously his numbers won't look as good as a guy playing ten games behind a stacked team.

And yes it is hard to believe. Not saying the Leafs D stinks. They don't. But TB's D is simply unmatched.

 

[shelf]

Without Kucherov I give the Leafs the edge for forwards. Tampa has better goaltending and defense though. The answer is clearly Tampa Bay but its not a huge difference