Best team in the league over the past 10 games.. hard to believe reading this section

sharks9

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The PGTs are full of very mad people when we win. The mood in it is better when we lose. That tells a lot.

Yea this is something I really don't understand. I don't care what other circumstances there are, I'll always be happy when the Habs win and upset when they lose. Especially if we're in a playoff spot and not fighting for a high draft pick!
 

FisherKing

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Come playoff time, all these weaknesses tend to get exposed very quickly so we'll see how that works out. If we have another quick exit, I could see a coaching change in the off season.

Don't think we're going to have to wait for the playoffs. I think the next 4 games will give us a pretty good indication of how the Habs measure up against the top SC contenders.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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We have been far from the best team in the league over the past ten games. The record doesn't reflect how we've played.

We had no business going to OT against Detroit, let alone Pittsburgh. The game in Toronto was an exhibition into who sucks worse (they have a good record too btw.)
 

akratique

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Yea this is something I really don't understand. I don't care what other circumstances there are, I'll always be happy when the Habs win and upset when they lose. Especially if we're in a playoff spot and not fighting for a high draft pick!


That's because a lot of these posters care much more about their standing in the peanut gallery than the Habs. It's all about appearances. If you repeat incessantly that the coach should be fired, then, you'll be ecstatic when it happens. And since it's bound to happen, like a broken clock, you'll bask in the glory of having been right at that precise moment.

Ignore them.
 

Mario le Magnifique

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That's because a lot of these posters care much more about their standing in the peanut gallery than the Habs. It's all about appearances. If you repeat incessantly that the coach should be fired, then, you'll be ecstatic when it happens. And since it's bound to happen, like a broken clock, you'll bask in the glory of having been right at that precise moment.

Ignore them.

I don't think MT is going to be fired anytime soon. MB sees the team overperforming, and it's partly due to MT's coaching style, which is a pretty hard approach with work ethic and accountability being primary concerns. MT is rewarding his best players the better quality ice-time. And no matter how you slice it, almost all of his decisions are easily understandable if you're not a PK or Eller fanboy, or a DD hater.

Sandpaper coaches like MT are good for a young core. He is the ideal coach for this young crop. Even for Subban.

Coaches ain't supposed to be fan favorites or player favorites, he needs to squeeze the juice out of them, and when the team wins, players are happy in the process, even if they get yelled at by the coach. The coach ain't their wives.
 

Devourers

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Well if any of you cared to read, I didn't call us the best team in the league this season. I said we're a Top-10 team, who has been the best in the league (according to record) over the past 10 games.

Shouldn't expect people to read though. My bad.

Don't worry you'll get used to it. 90% of the posts people make on this forum are intentionally neglecting to focus on what a person is saying and purposely going out of their way to misconstrue what others have said as a means of arguing, making a stupid joke or belittling others.

But posters like Whitesnake, Grant McCagg, Billy McNeal and a whole slew of others actually make this place worthy of reading still.

In other words, get used to people intentionally failing to comprehend what you say, apparently it's more fun for the majority of people here to take jabs at other posters knowing full well what they meant rather than actually making a proper discussion out of what was said. You get used to it though, you just need to learn which avatars to skip over ;) Some folks use this forum as a means to stroke their own ego and make themselves feel good about putting other people down over the internet, even if they do it in a very childish way. It's best to just ignore those people and discuss hockey with the people who actually know it. See the names I mentioned above for a good starting place :)
 

MathMan

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It's a miracle. With our top scorer ranked 64th in the NHL, I can't explain how we did it but I wouldn't base my expectations on this 10 game sequence.

Luck, basically. Or "good timing", "opportunism", and any other word of that ilk, all of which amount to squeezing the most possible wins out of the least amount of goals in ways teams can't repeat long-term.

That, and a hefty dose of goaltending.

The Habs have scored 2 goals more than they've allowed if you take out empty netters. Usually that's good for about a .500 record, and OTLs will take a team like that on the playoff bubbles. But the Habs have gotten more than their share of points in tight games, giving them a record that does not reflect at all how well they've played.

For comparison, the 2011-2012 Habs ended the season at -2, a mere four goals' difference from where the Habs are at now. Scarily, the teams were comparable in terms of overall play, but the 11-12 Habs were comparatively unlucky and ended up in the cellar.
 

Kingbobert

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yes and in the next 10 games we'll have one of the worst records. We've seen this happen this season already

MT cant coach and the team is winning dispite him and worse is the fact that any gm would of probably fired MT or would be at the end of the season, but since his buddy is the GM that wont happen. This team needs a new coach with new ideas and confidence in our best players
 

Monctonscout

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We're sitting nice with a 7-1-2 record in our last 10 games. 16 points out of 20.

That's so hard to believe with the amount of negativity in this forum. Two teams are 7-2-1 (Winnipeg, Washington), but we hold the best record in the past 10 games.

Either you have people saying get rid of Therrien (most who say we have a poor team), others who say we're an untalented team who just get lucky, etc, etc. If an opposing fan came into our section, they'd have to double check the standing because they'd think we were fighting with Buffalo and Edmonton for the worst team in the league.

It seems no one is happy with being 3rd in our conference. Sure, we have a lot of work to do before our team is perfect like the Chicago's of the league. But we're not that bad.

This board is so toxic at times it's frustrating.

Yeah, people can have their opinions...but when the team is where it's at right now, you don't expect to come here and read how terrible guys like Therrien, MB and Desharnais are. You'd think we were in line for a lottery pick and they were running the team into the ground.

I don't agree with every coaching move, trade or signing, but none have been as bad as the stuff you hear on here...
 

Tyrus

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We have been far from the best team in the league over the past ten games. The record doesn't reflect how we've played.

We had no business going to OT against Detroit, let alone Pittsburgh. The game in Toronto was an exhibition into who sucks worse (they have a good record too btw.)

We outshot Pittsburg and 3 really questionable goals were allowed. The team never seemed out of it except in the second and the OT, so I really don't know what hockey you've been watching that night. Or do you simply expect us to control 100% of the play against one of the best offensive in the league to call it a decent/good game?

What people expectations are here? Half of the posters are are branding this a hopeless team, where as 3/4 of it seems to at least agree on the "We suck, our system sucks, it's the major reason why we're bad" chant. Yet we're sitting lone 3rd in the East. So let me get this straight. The system is holding this team's back AND our entire roster is garbage, so we're 3rd. Do you expect this average team to beat the Pens and Bruins by 50 points or something?
 

JoelWarlord

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We outshot Pittsburg and 3 really questionable goals were allowed. The team never seemed out of it except in the second and the OT, so I really don't know what hockey you've been watching that night. Or do you simply expect us to control 100% of the play against one of the best offensive in the league to call it a decent/good game?

What people expectations are here? Half of the posters are are branding this a hopeless team, where as 3/4 of it seems to at least agree on the "We suck, our system sucks, it's the major reason why we're bad" chant. Yet we're sitting lone 3rd in the East. So let me get this straight. The system is holding this team's back AND our entire roster is garbage, so we're 3rd. Do you expect this average team to beat the Pens and Bruins by 50 points or something?

Actually most of the negative posters here don't think the roster sucks. Pacioretty is an excellent scoring winger, Subban is one of the best defenders in the league, and Price is one of the best goalies in the league. The roster could be improved but is legitimately a good roster, the problem is the underlying play has been awful for a long while.

It's a systems problem and in some cases deployment problem. I won't beat the Murray dead horse here but there's just been very bizzare deployment and a complete departure from what made the Habs so dominant last season. Last season it was a 3 line attack with a defensive 4th line that opened up easier assignments for the top 9. This year it's just constant dump and chase and doing everything that can be done to shelter Desharnais and Murray to the detriment of te whole team.

The position in the standings isn't the problem, the process that got us there is. It's not realistic to build your team around Price having a career year, and it's such a shame because this team's roster is more Blackhawks than Leafs but we've decided to start grinding it out and essentially have Michel Carlyle as our coach.
 

Wats

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This is the same luck-filled hot streak that got them that late November early December run with timely powerplays and lucky breaks resulting in goals while being outplayed game in game out.

Habs have 15 wins in their last 32 games with the Ducks, Sharks, Coyotes on the road coming up with no Price. This is among the worst records in the NHL in that span and the play matches it. Let's not compare this season to last season as the team is playing NOTHING like it. This season is quite similar to the style we saw before that anomaly that was 12/13.

This isn't a lottery team like 11/12 with healthy Markov and Gionta and the Gallys. But it isn't close to the good team people suggest it is...
 
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Monctonscout

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Actually most of the negative posters here don't think the roster sucks. Pacioretty is an excellent scoring winger, Subban is one of the best defenders in the league, and Price is one of the best goalies in the league. The roster could be improved but is legitimately a good roster, the problem is the underlying play has been awful for a long while.

It's a systems problem and in some cases deployment problem. I won't beat the Murray dead horse here but there's just been very bizzare deployment and a complete departure from what made the Habs so dominant last season. Last season it was a 3 line attack with a defensive 4th line that opened up easier assignments for the top 9. This year it's just constant dump and chase and doing everything that can be done to shelter Desharnais and Murray to the detriment of te whole team.

The position in the standings isn't the problem, the process that got us there is. It's not realistic to build your team around Price having a career year, and it's such a shame because this team's roster is more Blackhawks than Leafs but we've decided to start grinding it out and essentially have Michel Carlyle as our coach.


How is Desharnais "sheltered"?

That's a BS myth. By playing a guy on your top line and top PP that player, he will automatically face mostly the top pair on the other taem and best defensive players.

Murray isn't sheltered much, he plays on the top PK. Gets lesser opposition 5 on 5 but his value is mostly as a PK/shot blocking specialist and crease cleaner. You DO realize that most #5-6 d-men are "sheltered" by the nature of playing on the 3rd pair...
 

Monctonscout

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This is the same luck-filled hot streak that got them that late November early December run with timely powerplays and lucky breaks resulting in goals while being outplayed game in game out.

Habs have 15 wins in their last 32 games with the Ducks, Sharks, Coyotes on the road coming up with no Price. This is among the worst records in the NHL in that span and the play matches it.

This isn't a lottery team like 11/12 with healthy Markov and Gionta and the Gallys. But it isn't close to the good team people suggest it is...

They are who they are, after 111 games it stops being luck.

You can be lucky for a month, not for 10.
 

beowulf

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Don't confuse best record with best team. A number of wins were in extra time giving up a point to teams like Toronto that trail in the standings. Pretty confident the Habs will make the playoffs but not sure how much noise they will make once there. I am still a form believe that Therrien should not be coaching this team but alas we are stuck with him.
 

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