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With the decade coming to a close, which season do you consider to be the best among MVP winners?
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Malkin and Price for the sheer dominance they had in their season. Dark horse is Hall for me.
Hall? Lol thats like the worst one for me...
If Tampa makes the playoffs that year, the MVP vote ends up pretty close.Malkin for sure. Both statistical dominance over his peers and the eye test agree for me, plus it wasn't even really driven by an increase in his underlying numbers that suggest it was unsustainable the way several other seasons were. People talk about Crosby's '11 all the time, but Malkin basically put up the same stat line in the second half of his season.
It's the weakest Art Ross win since...I think Price’s season is a bit overrated to be honest. I don’t think it’s really any better than Bobrovsky’s Vezina win a couple years ago. The only reason he won the Hart as clearly as he did was because that was the weakest Art Ross race since who knows when.
It's the weakest Art Ross win since...
ummm...
Maybe since the Art Ross was a thing? Seriously might be the worst all time. I agree - Price's season wasn't historically impressive from a goaltender, it just occurred in that perfect storm situation of really bad scoring year and a great year for Price. You put his season in any year other than *maybe* 2011, and he doesn't win the Hart.
And while I know I'm going to come off as a homer, it's Kucherov. It's the highest scoring season since 1996. He set the record for points by a Russian and tied the record for assists by a winger. He won the Art Ross by double digits. He outscored #10 in scoring by 32 points (although admittedly Malkin's was 31 points so almost as significant).
If Tampa makes the playoffs that year, the MVP vote ends up pretty close.
Kucherov won the ross by 12pts but played 4 MORE games than McDavid (82-78). Malkin won the ross by 12pts but played 7 LESS games than Stamkos (75-82). Yes McDavid > Stamkos, but that's a big difference in GP for the same raw margin of victory. Malkin was also 2nd in goals and GPG, Kucherov was 6th in goals and not in the top 10 for GPG. Then factoring in the support each received I think as great as Kucherov's season was, Malkin was just a bit better.
I think Price’s season is a bit overrated to be honest. I don’t think it’s really any better than Bobrovsky’s Vezina win a couple years ago. The only reason he won the Hart as clearly as he did was because that was the weakest Art Ross race since who knows when.
Statistically on the surface, yes, but I remember all the advanced stats gurus at the time that tried to account for shot quality put it decently ahead of similar statistical years. I didn't look into it too deeply at the time but that seems to jive with the eye test as well. I do think he benefitted from the poor forward crop though
I don't think there has been a truly dominant Hart win since Ovy's 65 goal year, so I homer voted my boy Price. I think he has the most unique win of anyone up there, and the team's performance without him the next season should speak volumes.