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@Pranzo Oltranzista where do you find John Zorn's stuff? Virtually none of it is on streaming services, and I'm not brave enough to drop $40+ on an LP at a shop without at least having heard something.
@Pranzo Oltranzista where do you find John Zorn's stuff? Virtually none of it is on streaming services, and I'm not brave enough to drop $40+ on an LP at a shop without at least having heard something.
American Idiot is Green Day’s best album. That’s right I said it. I ain’t afraid of you motherf***ers.
Boooo!
I don’t get why people don’t like it. There’s not a bad song on there, and it clearly better than anything they did before that.
I would never say it's bad, it's just too overproduced for an admittedly biased guy like myself (I tend to like my punk music raw, sloppy and disgusting ).
To each their own.
Yeah, that’s totally fair. Kurt Cobain felt Nevermind was overproduced, although most people love it. Most Green Day fans would prefer Dookie to American Idiot, I’m sure. I just felt American Idiot was better front to back. Just my opinion.
I wonder how much of that has to do with the aforementioned cringey relationship you and your ilk had with them, though. I ask because I had the exact same relationship. I haven't listened to Nirvana with a critical ear since... probably forever. I'm not sure anyone can at this point.No problem. That's the great thing about music, you can always find different opinions.
I'm glad you brought up Nirvana. I was a huge fan of theirs during my angsty long-hair mid-90's phase, and my school had a freaking vigil when Cobain died (which may be the whitesuburb-est thing that that has ever happened) but I cannot stomach their music today except for Bleach which I still kind of like. On the other hand, Pearl Jam's Ten album still shines as brightly today as it did almost 30 years ago IMO, and so does some of Alice In Chains' work from the 90's as well.
I wonder how much of that has to do with the aforementioned cringey relationship you and your ilk had with them, though. I ask because I had the exact same relationship. I haven't listened to Nirvana with a critical ear since... probably forever. I'm not sure anyone can at this point.
But for the sake of this poll, I listened to In Utero with as close to a clear head as I could. It was really good. I appreciate the experimentation and misanthropy of it all. It's a smart record, unsurprisingly produced with just the right amount of care and carelessness that befit the genre. Songs like Frances Farmer and Scentless Apprentice are just really, really good tunes. Heart Shaped Box, too - even if how overplayed it has kind of separated it from any kind of objective assessment. But it's hard to say - in the exact same way that I have a hard time assessing Zeppelin IV or Rumours with the same kind of objectivity that I try to with everything else. It's just too ubiquitous.
I can't even find the new oneThe thread disappeared from HF!
I wonder how much of that has to do with the aforementioned cringey relationship you and your ilk had with them, though. I ask because I had the exact same relationship. I haven't listened to Nirvana with a critical ear since... probably forever. I'm not sure anyone can at this point.
But for the sake of this poll, I listened to In Utero with as close to a clear head as I could. It was really good. I appreciate the experimentation and misanthropy of it all. It's a smart record, unsurprisingly produced with just the right amount of care and carelessness that befit the genre. Songs like Frances Farmer and Scentless Apprentice are just really, really good tunes. Heart Shaped Box, too - even if how overplayed it has kind of separated it from any kind of objective assessment. But it's hard to say - in the exact same way that I have a hard time assessing Zeppelin IV or Rumours with the same kind of objectivity that I try to with everything else. It's just too ubiquitous.