Value of: Barzal's contract

[Critical13]

Any thoughts on what Barzal's next deal will look like? Most are speculating Matthews will get around 11 million, so does that put Barzal around 12 million if he eclipses his point total again next year?

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[HenrikW]

I feel like they would should be happy at 10 or less

 

[Critical13]

I feel like they would should be happy at 10 or less

Why would he get less than Eichel and the speculated Matthews contract if he has a more productive first 2 years?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

The people speculating Matthews gets 11M are either completely delusional on the player he is right now, or have massive expectations on him becoming a better player in the next year.


Matthews so far hasn't shown anything to suggest he gets more then ~7.5-8.5M a year on his next deal, slightly below what even Draisaitl is earning.


And unless he comes out with an 80-90 point season next year that's likely what he gets. 8M for 8 years or so. He's not a Top 10 Center in the league right now and wont be paid as one unless he has a big year next year.



Barzal will need to repeat what he did this year in order to really earn a big contract as well. He had the benefit of playing behind Tavares all year this year and was sheltered to an extent(Despite Islanders fans who will come in here and claim otherwise after this). Next year there's a real possibility he doesn't have Tavares in front of him and he'll be going against oppositions top defensive lines and pairings on a nightly basis.


If he can still repeat on this season and produces another 80+ point season, I'd say he gets 9-10M on his next new deal. But I'm a heavy skeptic that he can repeat on what he did this year, so we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Hostile Offer]

So much can happen before the negotiations for his new contract can even start (Tavares situation plays a big role here) so it's incredibly hard to speculate it but something around $8-10M based on this year.

 

[Mike Hasselhoffman]

The people speculating Matthews gets 11M are either completely delusional on the player he is right now, or have massive expectations on him becoming a better player in the next year.


Matthews so far hasn't shown anything to suggest he gets more then ~7.5-8.5M a year on his next deal, slightly below what even Draisaitl is earning.


And unless he comes out with an 80-90 point season next year that's likely what he gets. 8M for 8 years or so. He's not a Top 10 Center in the league right now and wont be paid as one unless he has a big year next year.



Barzal will need to repeat what he did this year in order to really earn a big contract as well. He had the benefit of playing behind Tavares all year this year and was sheltered to an extent(Despite Islanders fans who will come in here and claim otherwise after this). Next year there's a real possibility he doesn't have Tavares in front of him and he'll be going against oppositions top defensive lines and pairings on a nightly basis.


If he can still repeat on this season and produces another 80+ point season, I'd say he gets 9-10M on his next new deal. But I'm a heavy skeptic that he can repeat on what he did this year, so we'll have to wait and see.

See I agree with you when when you say that Matthews shouldn’t make over 10 million a year on his next contract, but if you look at some other players (I.e. Johansen at 8, Draisaitl at 8, Eichel at 10) Matthews is a superior player to all 3 of them and you can bet his camp will use those 3 as comparables.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Why would he get less than Eichel and the speculated Matthews contract if he has a more productive first 2 years?

Thats weird, I could have sworn it was Barzal’s rookie year

 

[HenrikW]

Why would he get less than Eichel and the speculated Matthews contract if he has a more productive first 2 years?

Either Eichel got overpaid or he would opt out sooner rather then later. I think the post below hours makes tons of sense in this particular subject.

If you are suggesting they are worth more then what Eichel is making now I would say you dont know what you are talking about

 

[seabass45]

Too early. If JT leaves he's going to get tougher competition so we'll see how he does and go from there.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Next year will be the deciding factor.. Way too early to say still.. If he has a better season next year, his contract will be massive.. It he has a slight sophomore slump, itll be a different story.

IMO its impossible to say at this point

 

[Critical13]

The people speculating Matthews gets 11M are either completely delusional on the player he is right now, or have massive expectations on him becoming a better player in the next year.


Matthews so far hasn't shown anything to suggest he gets more then ~7.5-8.5M a year on his next deal, slightly below what even Draisaitl is earning.


And unless he comes out with an 80-90 point season next year that's likely what he gets. 8M for 8 years or so. He's not a Top 10 Center in the league right now and wont be paid as one unless he has a big year next year.



Barzal will need to repeat what he did this year in order to really earn a big contract as well. He had the benefit of playing behind Tavares all year this year and was sheltered to an extent(Despite Islanders fans who will come in here and claim otherwise after this). Next year there's a real possibility he doesn't have Tavares in front of him and he'll be going against oppositions top defensive lines and pairings on a nightly basis.


If he can still repeat on this season and produces another 80+ point season, I'd say he gets 9-10M on his next new deal. But I'm a heavy skeptic that he can repeat on what he did this year, so we'll have to wait and see.

To me, that just doesn't feel like proper market value. Compare him with some other 80pt 20 year old Cs, and 11 million isn't far off. If Barzal eclipses this years numbers, which I think he will, that makes me think he will look at Eichel and Matthews and ask for more. Although I do think Matthews and Eichel play tougher minutes and have to shoulder more of the load.

 

[SI90]

Depends what type of seasons he has the next 2 years.

 

[TheDoldrums]

The people speculating Matthews gets 11M are either completely delusional on the player he is right now, or have massive expectations on him becoming a better player in the next year.


Matthews so far hasn't shown anything to suggest he gets more then ~7.5-8.5M a year on his next deal, slightly below what even Draisaitl is earning.


And unless he comes out with an 80-90 point season next year that's likely what he gets. 8M for 8 years or so. He's not a Top 10 Center in the league right now and wont be paid as one unless he has a big year next year.

Matthews went over PPG in his D+2 season. Draisaitl has never done that despite being drafted two years earlier and playing with McDavid a bunch.

Eichel hasn't hit PPG and got $10 million. $7.5-8.5 is a pipe dream. And you're calling others delusional...

 

[FlyTimmo]

I don't see him getting less than ~9M or more than 10M. We'll see how he plays next year.

 

[mammothCacti]

The people speculating Matthews gets 11M are either completely delusional on the player he is right now, or have massive expectations on him becoming a better player in the next year.


Matthews so far hasn't shown anything to suggest he gets more then ~7.5-8.5M a year on his next deal, slightly below what even Draisaitl is earning.


And unless he comes out with an 80-90 point season next year that's likely what he gets. 8M for 8 years or so. He's not a Top 10 Center in the league right now and wont be paid as one unless he has a big year next year.



Barzal will need to repeat what he did this year in order to really earn a big contract as well. He had the benefit of playing behind Tavares all year this year and was sheltered to an extent(Despite Islanders fans who will come in here and claim otherwise after this). Next year there's a real possibility he doesn't have Tavares in front of him and he'll be going against oppositions top defensive lines and pairings on a nightly basis.


If he can still repeat on this season and produces another 80+ point season, I'd say he gets 9-10M on his next new deal. But I'm a heavy skeptic that he can repeat on what he did this year, so we'll have to wait and see.

Man if only GMs and Players thought this too. Would make signing Tavares to the Leafs a non-issue cap wise. Too bad its not what they think.

 

[tucker3434]

We’re missing half the data. If he throws up 80+ again, he’s a $10m dollar man. If he has a bit of a sophomore slump and puts up only 65-70, closer to $8, if he was willing to sign.

 

[Faltorvo]

This boy is gonna get paid large

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

We’re missing half the data. If he throws up 80+ again, he’s a $10m dollar man. If he has a bit of a sophomore slump and puts up only 65-70, closer to $8, if he was willing to sign.

Haha I seriously hope they pay Barzal 10+mil, thatd be even worse than the Eichel signing

 

[Dzonna]

Extremely silly. 6-8 mil book it

 

[Critical13]

Thats weird, I could have sworn it was Barzal’s rookie year

I said in the OP that this is based on him having a similar sophmore season.

 

[Critical13]

Extremely silly. 6-8 mil book it

Why would he make 6-8 if he was a 20 year old PPG+ player, and a C to boot? His comparables include Eichel and Matthews, one got a similar deal and the other is expected to.

 

[CREW99AW]

Any thoughts on what Barzal's next deal will look like? Most are speculating Matthews will get around 11 million, so does that put Barzal around 12 million if he eclipses his point total again next year?

I expect his extension to be closer to $9m- $10m per, if he can put up 2 more seasons with production similar to this season.

 

[CREW99AW]

Haha I seriously hope they pay Barzal 10+mil, thatd be even worse than the Eichel signing

Eichel has had seasons of 56 pts,57 pts and 64 pts.
He has never come close to the 85 pts Barzal has put up.
Quit getting caught up in where they were drafted.

 

[Nico the Draft Riser]

Eichel has had seasons of 56 pts,57 pts and 64 pts.
He has never come close to the 85 pts Barzal has put up.
Quit getting caught up in where they were drafted.

Neither deserves 10 mil. Neither deserves 8 mil yet.

Is that better?

 

[CREW99AW]

Neither deserves 10 mil. Neither deserves 8 mil yet.

Is that better?

If he puts up 2 more seasons with production similar to this season , he is gonna be in line for $9m- $10m per, on a 7/8 yr deal.