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I'm really pulling for JB here and I want the Coyotes in Hamilton but I just can't see it happening.
and I think this will be JBs last attempt.
and I think this will be JBs last attempt.
Bettman says that Jim Balsillie's bid isn't really 212.5 million. It is much less.
I'm really pulling for JB here and I want the Coyotes in Hamilton but I just can't see it happening.
and I think this will be JBs last attempt.
In the business world, Jim Balsillie is the equivalent of hockey's energy line player — determined, relentless, persistent.
And that isn't going to change, even if a bankruptcy court judge rules that the BlackBerry boss can't move the Phoenix Coyotes to Hamilton.
"I'm hard-pressed to see a case where I won't carry on," Balsillie said in an interview with The Canadian Press earlier this week. "But you take the facts that come forward and you react to them. Just like the Phoenix situation, that was a situation we reacted to. . . . Would another situation come up? I don't know. I try to be thoughtful in the things I do and have no intention of proceeding cavalierly in anything I do. That's not my nature."
http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=43104
Bettman's interview on CBC for those who haven't seen it.
What happens if the auction goes down? And then we have no bids? The Club will be doomed, I mean just take Balsillie's offer. The Board of Governors have to be foolish right now not to. Balsillie filled out the relocation application, he wants this team badly and are we really going to cry over the loss of the Phoenix Coyotes? Realignment doesn't have to be difficult either. There are many scenarios that can work.
"The club was never in jeopardy and any suggestion that is was is silly."
According to records supplied by Mr. Moyes, the Coyotes averaged a turnstile count - the number of fans who actually enter the arena - of only 10,943 last season.
Their stated average attendance is 14,875 and not 10,943 so does that mean each night 3,932 ticket buyers don't bother to show up? A 26% no show rate? Or was Phoenix buying up huge amounts of tickets to qualify for revenue sharing? Has anyone heard Moyes or anyone else try to explain the massive difference in the publicly declared attendance?
As for my opinion, the team isnt going anywhere, so most if not all the canadians claiming "make it seven" save it, because it wont be the Yotes.
Actual turnstile attendance: 10,942 (people that actually showed up to watch the games)
Actual paid for tickets: 13,075 (which includes no-shows and likely tickets bought by Moyes and associates in an attempt to qualify for more revenue sharing dollars)
I noticed a few things about the copps upgrade rendering.
A: One of the banners says "new faces new places" with the NHL logo on it. Guess he's hoping to make it thirty eventually.
B: A Sidney Crosby banner in a Penguins Jersey is hanging on the outside of the arena. (I thought Balsillie stated that he would not move the Pens at all)
C: He wants the Canadian taxpayer to foot the 150 million bill (why no complaint about subsidies) Why not build a new arena at that price???
D: Are the only hockey fans in Hamilton Women???
http://www.makeitseven.ca/press_coppimages.html
There are four "attendance" figures to consider:
Announced attendance: 14,875 (this is a totally made-up and bogus figure in the 'new' NHL)
Actual turnstile attendance: 10,942 (people that actually showed up to watch the games)
Actual tickets distributed: 13,854 (tickets sold and/or given away for free)
Actual paid for tickets: 13,075 (which includes no-shows and likely tickets bought by Moyes and associates in an attempt to qualify for more revenue sharing dollars)
Does that clear things up?
Link:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/Jhendrix70_/Jets/tickets.jpg
GHOST
What happens if the auction goes down? And then we have no bids? The Club will be doomed, I mean just take Balsillie's offer. The Board of Governors have to be foolish right now not to. Balsillie filled out the relocation application, he wants this team badly and are we really going to cry over the loss of the Phoenix Coyotes? Realignment doesn't have to be difficult either. There are many scenarios that can work.
There are four "attendance" figures to consider:
Announced attendance: 14,875 (this is a totally made-up and bogus figure in the 'new' NHL)
Actual turnstile attendance: 10,942 (people that actually showed up to watch the games)
Actual tickets distributed: 13,854 (tickets sold and/or given away for free)
Actual paid for tickets: 13,075 (which includes no-shows and likely tickets bought by Moyes and associates in an attempt to qualify for more revenue sharing dollars)
Does that clear things up?
Link:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/Jhendrix70_/Jets/tickets.jpg
GHOST
You should do some research before you shoot your mouth off.
No complaints about subsidies by tax payers is because the tax payers OWN Copps.
Don't you think it's in the tax payers best interest to secure a anchor tenant like a NHL team or would you rather have another arena built that is going to compete against you?
Just a bit of a double standard here regarding taxpayer subsidies isn't it? A large number of people on these boards have complained about the taxpayer subsidies given to the Predators and proposed for the Coyotes, yet you say it is okay for the taxpayers of Hamilton to do the same thing.
The taxpayers in Nashville and Glendale also own the arenas. Isn't it in their best interest, too, to secure an anchor tennant like an NHL team?
It's very common in the US for local governments to issue bonds to help raise money to build stadiums for their local pro teams whereas it's always been a tender spot in Canada. Hamilton isn't doing anything unusual.
You should do some research before you shoot your mouth off.
No complaints about subsidies by tax payers is because the tax payers OWN Copps.
Don't you think it's in the tax payers best interest to secure a anchor tenant like a NHL team or would you rather have another arena built that is going to compete against you?
There are four "attendance" figures to consider:
Announced attendance: 14,875 (this is a totally made-up and bogus figure in the 'new' NHL)
Actual turnstile attendance: 10,942 (people that actually showed up to watch the games)
Actual tickets distributed: 13,854 (tickets sold and/or given away for free)
Actual paid for tickets: 13,075 (which includes no-shows and likely tickets bought by Moyes and associates in an attempt to qualify for more revenue sharing dollars)
Does that clear things up?
Link:
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k42/Jhendrix70_/Jets/tickets.jpg
GHOST
I'm not saying that Hamilton is doing anything unusual. Just wondering where the usual outcry against taypayer funded subsidies that always spring up on these boards are this time. Several posters that are usually quite vocal about taxpayer subsidies are being unusually quiet.