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Award Finalists: General Manager of the Year

GM finalists

  • McPhee

  • Dubas

  • Armstrong

  • Kekäläinen

  • Bergevin

  • Treliving

  • Brisebois

  • Wilson

  • Other (who?)

  • Poile

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MMC

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Glengarry Glencross said:
Treliving has to be one of them
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Other, Yzerman. And yes it’s possible to vote for someone who has stepped down.
 
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Neither Yzerman nor Brisbebois did much to improve their team in the past year because they didn't have to.
 
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mymerlincat said:
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What about that time he traded Hamilton and in return he got a 78 point player a replacement d-man who scored only 6 less points than Dougie? :help:

Team got better, the replacement did just as good as the guy traded and he got a 70 point player in the process.

Went with BriesBois (its like voting for Yzerman and people forget he was Stevie Y's lieutenant for years, aka the #2 guy) Treliving and GMGM.
 
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Voight said:
What about that time he traded Hamilton and in return he got a 78 point player a replacement d-man who scored only 6 less points than Dougie? :help:

Team got better, the replacement did just as good as the guy traded and he got a 70 point player in the process.

Went with BriesBois (its like voting for Yzerman and people forget he was Stevie Y's lieutenant for years, aka the #2 guy) Treliving and GMGM.
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To be the GM of the Year for me, that year can’t really have any f*** ups. Signing the worst contract of UFA that previous offseason is an automatic disqualification for me.
 
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mymerlincat said:
To be the GM of the Year for me, that year can’t really have any **** ups. Signing the worst contract of UFA that previous offseason is an automatic disqualification for me.
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Thats stupid. Nobody is perfect. His team improved by 23 points, his players all had great years even after he switched things up.

His team was one of the best in the league.
 
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Voight said:
Thats stupid. Nobody is perfect. His team improved by 23 points, his players all had great years even after he switched things up.

His team was one of the best in the league.
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You’re welcome to have him as one of your candidates, but that signing disqualifies him for me. There are several GMs who greatly improved their teams without a massive blunder on their year like Treliving has.
 
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McPhee has had multiple massive f***-ups recently. St. Louis signed Bozak to a weirdly big contract and had made up their mind at the beginning of the year that Allen/Johnson was a good goalie tandem, nearly pissing away the season. San Jose failed to address the goaltending issue and as such has by-far-and-away the worst goaltending in the entire NHL.

No GM is without fault.
 

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I only voted for Treliving. No other option is even close

Distant second IMO would be the Washington and NYI GMs
 
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ccman68 said:
Other, Yzerman. And yes it’s possible to vote for someone who has stepped down.
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In that case, I vote Peter Chiarelli, Bob Murray, Jason Botterill.





Oh, wait - this is "best GM?" Sorry, I misread that. Let me try this again.

1. Marc Bergevin, Montreal. Folks, where did you really have the Canadiens penciled in to finish this season? It certainly wasn't 9th in the East at 96 points, 2 out of a playoff spot, and battling into the final day of the season. Bergevin caught all kinds of hell, but his moves panned out so much better than expected. He took a couple big risks, caught hell from everyone for it, and nearly got the Habs into a playoff spot. I don't know how you don't have him high on the list.

2. Don Waddell, Carolina. Again, where did you all have the Hurricanes placing after cutting loose Bill Peters as HC, Ron Francis from the organization, and turning to Rod Brind'Amour as the new HC and making some of the moves they did? Probably safe to say it wasn't "1st wild card in the East, with 99 points, and making a serious run for the division title as they end their 10-year playoff drought." Yeah, Waddell was a giant f***-up in Atlanta, but this season's work goes down right alongside Bergevin - but the Canes were almost certainly picked to finish higher in the standings.

3. Brad Treveling, Calgary. Yeah, the Flames won the Pacific and were 1st in the West. But it's not like some of the pieces weren't there already. Calgary has put up 97 and 94 points in two of the last 4 seasons to make the playoffs, then followed up each season with a downer that saw them miss and not be terribly close. If I look at the Flames roster, yeah there's Lindholm and Ryan and arguably Hanifin but James Neal had a lousy year and Alan Quine spent much of the season in the AHL. And yes, adding Bill Peters from Carolina didn't hurt by any stretch. The question for me: is adding a HC and a couple players more noteworthy than what the guys above did? IMO, no. Worth mentioning, yes - but not more impressive.

Others noted:
  • McPhee, Vegas: since this is a regular season award, it would have been difficult to top last season's work. The playoffs may cause some to want to revisit it, but with the rash of big-name signings the Golden Knights were 16 points off last year's pace. Partly expected, but partly not.
  • Dubas, Toronto: um, no. From the unnecessary drawout of the Nylander situation to putting together a team that purportedly is complete but had mind-numbing stretches of indifference and bad losses, hard to give him consideration for being among the best GMs in the league for what happened this season. [Again, the playoffs are his chance to redeem himself and maybe we revisit it after.]
  • Armstrong, St. Louis: made big trades and big signings in the offseason, and it nearly backfired spectacularly. If not for a rookie goalie coming in and steadying the ship in net - a guy Armstrong had zero trust in - DA's name could be dropping into the list of worst GMs.
  • Kekalainen, Columbus. Guy has guts, went for broke at the trade deadline, nearly failed spectacularly too. See "possible redemption in the playoffs" but I can't reward a guy whose team was at the top of the Metro in December and then nearly failed to get into the postseason despite major acquisitions.
  • Brisebois, Tampa Bay. The guts of this franchise was set by Yzerman, and Cooper has steered it to one of the greatest seasons in NHL history. If he can keep this group together and supplement it and keep it going, then we can discuss.
  • Wilson, San Jose. Um ..... no. In fact, I don't know that I've ever put him into the top half of GMs in the league.
  • Not mentioned, but worthy of discussion: Lou Lamoriello, NY Islanders. Again, who had the Islaes fighting for 2nd in the Metro with the loss of Tavares after they didn't make the playoffs last season? Lou arrived, got Trotz to come over, and put trust into his team and brought a steady hand to the S.S. Islanders. I'd arguably put him into the top-3 over Treliving - and it's not a slight to the Calgary GM, it's just a recognition that other guys did more starting with arguably less and/or lower expectations.
 
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My top 3 would be in no order at least from the options given

1. McPhee
2. Treliving
3. Kekäläinen

I might get flak for my last option, but huge kudos for Kekäläinen actually trying even if risky.
 
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Albus Dumbledore

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In that case, I vote Peter Chiarelli, Bob Murray, Jason Botterill.





Oh, wait - this is "best GM?" Sorry, I misread that. Let me try this again.

1. Marc Bergevin, Montreal. Folks, where did you really have the Canadiens penciled in to finish this season? It certainly wasn't 9th in the East at 96 points, 2 out of a playoff spot, and battling into the final day of the season. Bergevin caught all kinds of hell, but his moves panned out so much better than expected. He took a couple big risks, caught hell from everyone for it, and nearly got the Habs into a playoff spot. I don't know how you don't have him high on the list.

2. Don Waddell, Carolina. Again, where did you all have the Hurricanes placing after cutting loose Bill Peters as HC, Ron Francis from the organization, and turning to Rod Brind'Amour as the new HC and making some of the moves they did? Probably safe to say it wasn't "1st wild card in the East, with 99 points, and making a serious run for the division title as they end their 10-year playoff drought." Yeah, Waddell was a giant ****-up in Atlanta, but this season's work goes down right alongside Bergevin - but the Canes were almost certainly picked to finish higher in the standings.

3. Brad Treveling, Calgary. Yeah, the Flames won the Pacific and were 1st in the West. But it's not like some of the pieces weren't there already. Calgary has put up 97 and 94 points in two of the last 4 seasons to make the playoffs, then followed up each season with a downer that saw them miss and not be terribly close. If I look at the Flames roster, yeah there's Lindholm and Ryan and arguably Hanifin but James Neal had a lousy year and Alan Quine spent much of the season in the AHL. And yes, adding Bill Peters from Carolina didn't hurt by any stretch. The question for me: is adding a HC and a couple players more noteworthy than what the guys above did? IMO, no. Worth mentioning, yes - but not more impressive.

Others noted:
  • McPhee, Vegas: since this is a regular season award, it would have been difficult to top last season's work. The playoffs may cause some to want to revisit it, but with the rash of big-name signings the Golden Knights were 16 points off last year's pace. Partly expected, but partly not.
  • Dubas, Toronto: um, no. From the unnecessary drawout of the Nylander situation to putting together a team that purportedly is complete but had mind-numbing stretches of indifference and bad losses, hard to give him consideration for being among the best GMs in the league for what happened this season. [Again, the playoffs are his chance to redeem himself and maybe we revisit it after.]
  • Armstrong, St. Louis: made big trades and big signings in the offseason, and it nearly backfired spectacularly. If not for a rookie goalie coming in and steadying the ship in net - a guy Armstrong had zero trust in - DA's name could be dropping into the list of worst GMs.
  • Kekalainen, Columbus. Guy has guts, went for broke at the trade deadline, nearly failed spectacularly too. See "possible redemption in the playoffs" but I can't reward a guy whose team was at the top of the Metro in December and then nearly failed to get into the postseason despite major acquisitions.
  • Brisebois, Tampa Bay. The guts of this franchise was set by Yzerman, and Cooper has steered it to one of the greatest seasons in NHL history. If he can keep this group together and supplement it and keep it going, then we can discuss.
  • Wilson, San Jose. Um ..... no. In fact, I don't know that I've ever put him into the top half of GMs in the league.
  • Not mentioned, but worthy of discussion: Lou Lamoriello, NY Islanders. Again, who had the Islaes fighting for 2nd in the Metro with the loss of Tavares after they didn't make the playoffs last season? Lou arrived, got Trotz to come over, and put trust into his team and brought a steady hand to the S.S. Islanders. I'd arguably put him into the top-3 over Treliving - and it's not a slight to the Calgary GM, it's just a recognition that other guys did more starting with arguably less and/or lower expectations.
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although i dont think dubas is even top 5 maybe top 10 he still deserves credit.

its not all on Dubas on the nylander front, it takes two to tango, considering nylander wanted 8-8.5 long term and wasnt budging much he did great.

He still signed tavares and acquired muzzin and got rid of other bad contracts and made great minor deals all year round.
 
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