Confirmed with Link: Avs Hire Oil Kings' Jamie Porter to Join Amateur Scouting Staff

[The Merchant]

Anyone have any deets on this guy?

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[dahrougem2]

He worked for Swift Current. That's all we need to know about why he was hired lol.

 

[McMetal]

Sounds like Klip is starting to remake the amateur scouting staff. That room needs fresh voices, especially for the CHL region, so I'll be cautiously optimistic not knowing anything else about him.

 

[henchman21]

Sounds like Klip is starting to remake the amateur scouting staff. That room needs fresh voices, especially for the CHL region, so I'll be cautiously optimistic not knowing anything else about him.

He's the replacement for Klip since he can't focus on the Dub anymore.

Porter has been around forever in the Dub and been a part of building some great teams.

 

[Ararana]

This is not the Confirmed With Link I wanted to see...

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Welcome aboard “Jamie” if that is your real name.

We will crucify you for any failed pick coming out of the West.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Welcome aboard “Jamie” if that is your real name.

We will crucify you for any failed pick coming out of the West.

Already preparing my, ‘this is on Porter’ posts.

 

[tigervixxxen]

He's the replacement for Klip since he can't focus on the Dub anymore.

Porter has been around forever in the Dub and been a part of building some great teams.

There’s a good Q&A with him on YT, seems like he knows what he’s talking about. Any thoughts on his preferences?

 

[henchman21]

There’s a good Q&A with him on YT, seems like he knows what he’s talking about. Any thoughts on his preferences?

I don't know a ton just beyond who he's developed. In that way, he's the typical western Canadian sort of scout. Likes big farm boys and physical games. NHLers that have flowed through his orgs are Eakin, Lowry, Heatherington, DeBrusk, Lajoie, and soon to be Guenther.

 

[The Merchant]

This is not the Confirmed With Link I wanted to see...

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

He is an unbelievable guy.. such a nice person and always busted his ass travelling and watching bantam/midget games... was very well liked amongst other scouts and other team management.

Great hiring for you guys

I always figured the past few years that it was only a matter of time until he's in the NHL

 

[Metallo]

I don't know a ton just beyond who he's developed. In that way, he's the typical western Canadian sort of scout. Likes big farm boys and physical games. NHLers that have flowed through his orgs are Eakin, Lowry, Heatherington, DeBrusk, Lajoie, and soon to be Guenther.

That does not sound that great...

Shouldn’t we hire an NHL guy that is scouting junior and not a junior guy scouting midgets?

 

[henchman21]

That does not sound that great...

Shouldn’t we hire an NHL guy that is scouting junior and not a junior guy scouting midgets?

Pretty normal progression for scouts

 

[Metallo]

Pretty normal progression for scouts

Sure but it would have been nice to poach a vet instead of getting a roookie.

 

[Foppa2118]

Sure but it would have been nice to poach a vet instead of getting a roookie.

He's not really a rookie though. He's been a scout since 2003-04.

Also been Director of Player Personnel, Assistant GM, Director of Hockey Ops, and Director of Scouting in the WHL.

Jamie Porter at eliteprospects.com

 

[S E P H]

I'm with hench that he's a prototypical prairie player type of scout (considering he's from farm country), but I really like this hire and I think he's got a good eye. Just don't allow him to have free reigns and draft all the McIlraths' and we should be okay with his scout selection.

I still think Avs should hire at least two more European scouts. You can get away with very limited scouts if you're like the Senators and hit many different prospects in many different rounds. Avs with their insanely average to below-average scouting team needs all the help they can get.

 

[PAZ]

I'm with hench that he's a prototypical prairie player type of scout (considering he's from farm country), but I really like this hire and I think he's got a good eye. Just don't allow him to have free reigns and draft all the McIlraths' and we should be okay with his scout selection.

I still think Avs should hire at least two more European scouts. You can get away with very limited scouts if you're like the Senators and hit many different prospects in many different rounds. Avs with their insanely average to below-average scouting team needs all the help they can get.

Doesn't do any good if the Avs don't have a good system to combine the scouting reports and make an accurate list.

At this point, it's hard to say if it's the lack of scouts or their organization.

 

[Metallo]

He's not really a rookie though. He's been a scout since 2003-04.

Also been Director of Player Personnel, Assistant GM, Director of Hockey Ops, and Director of Scouting in the WHL.

Jamie Porter at eliteprospects.com

He’s a rookie at drafting for the NHL.

 

[Foppa2118]

He’s a rookie at drafting for the NHL.

I see. It seems like most of the new hires in scouting come from junior anyway though.

The older guys reputation probably isn't as strong, since they spent most of their career scouting for a fairly different NHL than the one now.

The guys that have spent time scouting junior have spent most of their time scouting the modern style of hockey and probably spent more time working with analytics than the older guys.

Also if you're bringing in a new guy from junior, he's probably already well versed in the prospects for the next 3-4 years.

 

[Metallo]

I see. It seems like most of the new hires in scouting come from junior anyway though.

The older guys reputation probably isn't as strong, since they spent most of their career scouting for a fairly different NHL than the one now.

The guys that have spent time scouting junior have spent most of their time scouting the modern style of hockey and probably spent more time working with analytics than the older guys.

Also if you're bringing in a new guy from junior, he's probably already well versed in the prospects for the next 3-4 years.

You make valid and interesting points, thanks for the input.

 

[Pokecheque]

That does not sound that great...

Shouldn’t we hire an NHL guy that is scouting junior and not a junior guy scouting midgets?

Geez, it's one, single, solitary major junior team. How much top-end talent do they have to produce for the NHL?

 

[henchman21]

Geez, it's one, single, solitary major junior team. How much top-end talent do they have to produce for the NHL?

He's got that with a top 5 pick this year! (we'll ignore he didn't draft him)

 

[Metallo]

Geez, it's one, single, solitary major junior team. How much top-end talent do they have to produce for the NHL?

It’s not like it’s a who’s who of NHL talent.

 

[Pokecheque]

It’s not like it’s a who’s who of NHL talent.

Again, it's ONE team. Your expectations seem a tad outta whack. I'm sure some prominent junior teams like the London Knights or some Q teams have produced some future stars at a semi-regular clip but that can't be the case with every single one. There's tons of them, and landing a big star takes as much dumb luck and, well, good connections as anything else. The fact that they took some unheralded players and developed them into worthwhile NHL players is notable in and of itself. Do they need to spit out a Connor McDavid or two?

This is like saying "Yeah, DU has won a few national titles, but man, they've only produced guys like Matt Carle and Tyler Bozak."

 

[McMetal]

At the very least, he'll bring a ton of knowledge about the WHL as a whole. He will have been watching many of these kids since they were 14, and probably already has notes on kids who are 3-4 years out from their draft years, too.