Prospect Info: August 2023 - after draft - Red Wings Prospect voting #16

Who is Detroit's #16 prospect ?

  • C - Liam Dower-Nilsson

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • C - Red Savage

    Votes: 9 11.0%
  • C - Theodor Niederbach

    Votes: 5 6.1%
  • W - Dylan James

    Votes: 36 43.9%
  • W - Alexandre Doucet

    Votes: 8 9.8%
  • LD - Brady Cleveland

    Votes: 7 8.5%
  • RD - Antti Tuomisto

    Votes: 4 4.9%
  • RD - Anton Johansson

    Votes: 21 25.6%
  • G - Jan Bednar

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • G - Carter Gylander

    Votes: 2 2.4%
  • F - Noah Dower-Nilsson

    Votes: 17 20.7%

  • Total voters
    82
  • Poll closed .

Henkka

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Shai Buium wins 14th round.

This round was so close, so I fasten this a bit, by giving that #15th spot to Andrew Gibson, who was 2nd on that #14 voting.

#1 LD - Simon Edvinsson 86.8% (6th overall, 1st round, 2021 draft)
#2 C - Marco Kasper 80% (8th overall, 1st round, 2022 draft)
#3 C - Nate Danielson 68.0% (9th overall, 1st round, 2023 draft)
#4 LD - William Wallinder 35.7% (32nd overall, 2nd round 2020 draft)
#5 RD - Axel Sandin Pellikka 43.9% (17th overall, 1st round, 2023 draft)
#6 G - Sebastian Cossa 56,9% (15th overall, 1st round 2021 draft)
#7 RW - Carter Mazur 72.0% (70th overall, 3rd round 2021 draft)
#8 LW - Elmer Söderblom 51.7% (159th overall, 6th round 2019 draft)
#9 C - Amadeus Lombardi 46.5% (113th overall, 4th round 2022 draft)
#10 LD - Albert Johansson 61.3% (60th overall, 2nd round 2019 draft)
#11 W - Dmitri Buchelnikov 62.9% (52nd overall, 2nd round 2022 draft)
#12 G - Trey Augustine 43.4.9% (42nd overall, 2nd round 2023 draft)
#13 W - Cross Hanas 45.7% (55th overall, 2nd round 2020 draft)
#14 LD - Shai Buium 36.8% (36th overall, 2nd round 2021 draft)
#15 RD - Andrew Gibson 26.3% (42th overall, 2nd round 2023 draft)

Difference also is, that now you can give 2 votes.

Top2 will both get a rank like on this round, if the voting is close. If there's a landslide voting, then only 1 gets a rank.
 
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Noah Dower Nilsson was a top 50 player in this last draft IMO. Had him over Augustine, Gibson, and Cleveland.

Reminder that he was a lot more impactful for the Froulunda J20 team than Stenberg who some here wanted in the first round.
 

Henkka

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Most of these are long shots at being any sort of regular contributor at this point in voting but it still does give me a happy feeling that I can see a fair amount getting at least a call up.

Yeah, Stenberg didn't impress at J20 level, but then suddenly looked better than Team USA 1st liners against them.

There was a real reason for the hype, and I would ignore a bit of those lower league statistics.

When you go head-to-head against best in your class, and outplay them, that tells the story more than anything.
 

jaster

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We just skipped #15 because the voting was close? Huh? The separation between Buium and Gibson was the same as between Gibson and James. So if 8 votes is so close, wouldn't you want a poll to pit Gibson vs James?

Also, we've been leaving some polls open longer than needed, but also skipping other polls altogether?

It's amateur hour over here with the lack of logic. I'm triggered.
 

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Mo Seider Less Problems
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Yeah, Stenberg didn't impress at J20 level, but then suddenly looked better than Team USA 1st liners against them.

There was a real reason for the hype, and I would ignore a bit of those lower league statistics.

When you go head-to-head against best in your class, and outplay them, that tells the story more than anything.
I’m assuming you meant to quote me.

I generally prefer a big sample size to a small sample size.

I’m always a little skeptical of guys who dominate in short international tournaments but not their respective league play. Especially if I am drafting that guy in the first round.
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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I picked LDN, but could have gone James or Red Savage. I think all 3 have a reasonable chance at a bottom 6/bottom line role.
 
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izlez

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We just skipped #15 because the voting was close? Huh? The separation between Buium and Gibson was the same as between Gibson and James. So if 8 votes is so close, wouldn't you want a poll to pit Gibson vs James?

Also, we've been leaving some polls open longer than needed, but also skipping other polls altogether?

It's amateur hour over here with the lack of logic. I'm triggered.
Yeah, not sure choosing the top two guys from the last poll really made sense, especially when only voting for one. Shortening the duration of each vote is probably the more accurate way if we want to move things along.

I'm also not sure that it matters or if I care
 

OgeeOgelthorpe

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Why in the world would you pick LDN over NDN?

Because it's early in the morning and I was only half paying attention when I voted. I didn't notice that NDN was still on the board. :help:

EDIT: I actually picked Red Savage. That melatonin really messes you up, man.
 

jaster

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Yeah, not sure choosing the top two guys from the last poll really made sense, especially when only voting for one. Shortening the duration of each vote is probably the more accurate way if we want to move things along.

I'm also not sure that it matters or if I care
It probably doesn't matter, and I only care enough to complain about it because I have OCD when it comes to how data is handled, and Henkka regularly abuses the hell out of it, which is very traumatic for me and now I need my blankey.
 
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Henkka

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Why is Bednar there? Won't ever play an NHL game

Think you can't say anything about a 20-year old goalie.

Where was Alex Lyon as 20-year old?
Where was Reimer as 20-year old?

Bednar is in our system, going probably to Toledo and looked fine at development camp. Not the worst goalie there.
 

Realgud

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With how Anton Johansson is playing in this Hlinka cup thing going on, he is showing he may have to be put up a few spots in our rankings.
Small correction: it's the U20 showcase

The Hlinka is the other tournament going on and it's U18 with undrafted players :)

But yes I also think Johansson should be in the top 20.
 

Detroit Knights

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Small correction: it's the U20 showcase

The Hlinka is the other tournament going on and it's U18 with undrafted players :)

But yes I also think Johansson should be in the top 20.
Ah gotcha. Yeah I wish I knew more about the other tournaments during the summer so I didn't sit here and hate watch the countdown to puck drop from red wings twitter, but here we are.
 
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Rzombo4 prez

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James for sure. His skating makes him very projectible as an NHLer. Johansson also deserves consideration.

 
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lilidk

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Anton Johansson has 3points in 3 games for u20 national team only behind Unger Sorum , of course drafted by Carolina this summer
 

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