ATD 2021 Multiple Teams Per GM Poll

[ResilientBeast]

Should we run multiple teams like last year?

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[VanIslander]

Thanks for the poll!

 

[ImporterExporter]

I chose no but that is based on trading being allowed which seems like it will pass easily.

Honestly wouldn't mind a smaller draft this year.

 

[rmartin65]

One of the biggest complaints about the ATD is that it gets stale; changing up the draft size is the cleanest way to combat that.

I vote for 1 team per GM this year, with an eye towards 2 teams per GM next year.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

I think we should wait to do this poll until trading has been decided. Whether trades are allowed may change someone's opinion, as trades can be a lot of extra work, 2 teams with trades may be too much for some GM's, but 2 teams without trades may be fine.


EDIT: Doing it in the reverse order would be fine too (i.e. deciding 2 teams or not first, then deciding on trades)

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Maybe a better idea would be to just have more options, so all polls can be available at the same time. So something like this:

1 or 2 Teams Poll (pick 2)

1 team if no trades
2 teams if no trades
1 team if trades
2 teams if trades

and then something similar for the other poll

 

[ResilientBeast]

Maybe a better idea would be to just have more options, so all polls can be available at the same time. So something like this:

1 or 2 Teams Poll (pick 2)

1 team if no trades
2 teams if no trades
1 team if trades
2 teams if trades

and then something similar for the other poll

I feel once we know if people want trades or/and 2 teams we can discuss how to coordinate that later. I think we need to see where the group leans for the two big questions first.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

I feel once we know if people want trades or/and 2 teams we can discuss how to coordinate that later. I think we need to see where the group leans for the two big questions first.

Fair enough

 

[BenchBrawl]

I think we should wait to do this poll until trading has been decided. Whether trades are allowed may change someone's opinion, as trades can be a lot of extra work, 2 teams with trades may be too much for some GM's, but 2 teams without trades may be fine.


EDIT: Doing it in the reverse order would be fine too (i.e. deciding 2 teams or not first, then deciding on trades)

Trading has already won; it's 8-0.

 

[Habsfan18]

I voted that it doesn’t matter, because I’d be happy either way.

The two team format was so much fun last year, and the drafting & lineup creation aspects are always my favorite. But I also welcome the idea of switching it up every year to keep it feeling fresh.

 

[ResilientBeast]

I voted that it doesn’t matter, because I’d be happy either way.

The two team format was so much fun last year, and the drafting & lineup creation aspects are always my favorite. But I also welcome the idea of switching it up every year to keep it feeling fresh.

Yeah I have a hard time getting motivated to debate....but hours upon hours of lineup construction I'll do in a heartbeat.

 

[Voight]

Never liked this idea. For one, you end up with way too many teams.

I think you end up with more quality and thought-out teams when GMs are focusing on one singular team.

 

[VanIslander]

Do we only have 13 people interested in GMing?

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I'm trying to understand how a "yes" vote here with trades would even work. GMs who have 2 teams can't trade at all?

One no-trade + one trade conference probably won't work, as I assume that all or most of the GMs who only want 1 team will want to be able to trade.

Anyway, only 1 team per GM definitely simplifies things with trading allowed.

 

[VanIslander]

No.

 

[ImporterExporter]

@Habsfan18
@Dreakmur
@ted2019

You 3 all picked "doesn't matter". Do you have a strong preference here? It's 7-4 in favor of keeping this a 1 team per GM draft. You 3 could technically tie it up but I agree with TDMM (and others) that trying to make a full trade draft with some people having 2 teams vs only 1, would be an effort in some madness.

Hoping we can get a pretty clear consensus one way or the other here. It would firm up the 2 biggest questions.

I assume others will show up to participate as we get closer to/after New Years. But I'm not ready, nor do I think we need to start sending out recruitment PM's in large quantities yet.

 

[Habsfan18]

I mean, one “simple” solution to that issue would be to make a separate no-trading conference for GM’s who have 2 clubs. For those GM’s, one of their teams would be placed in a conference with all of the other GM’s who chose to manage two clubs. The trading conference would consist of their other club, plus all of the GM’s who chose to stick with one club only.

But I agree that it would just be much simpler to stick with one team each this year. It keeps things fresh. But I’ll never turn down the chance to draft draft draft.

So I still feel like I’m good either way. I suppose my heart says 2 teams but my head says 1.

 

[ted2019]

@Habsfan18
@Dreakmur
@ted2019

You 3 all picked "doesn't matter". Do you have a strong preference here? It's 7-4 in favor of keeping this a 1 team per GM draft. You 3 could technically tie it up but I agree with TDMM (and others) that trying to make a full trade draft with some people having 2 teams vs only 1, would be an effort in some madness.

Hoping we can get a pretty clear consensus one way or the other here. It would firm up the 2 biggest questions.

I assume others will show up to participate as we get closer to/after New Years. But I'm not ready, nor do I think we need to start sending out recruitment PM's in large quantities yet.

It doesn't matter to me. I only have time to have 1 team.

 

[ImporterExporter]

It's fairly lopsided in favor of this being a 1 team per GM draft, unless the 3 "doesn't matter" folks want to join the 2 team crowd.

I won't start a secondary poll on this unless the 2 team option closes the gap with the singular one.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Please vote here if you haven't already.

Thanks!

 

[BenchBrawl]

2 teams would be the worst idea of all-time at this point. It doesn't fit with the trading draft, and the split-rule by conference idea would make it a logistic nightmare when looking to trade.

 

[ImporterExporter]

2 teams would be the worst idea of all-time at this point. It doesn't fit with the trading draft, and the split-rule by conference idea would make it a logistic nightmare when looking to trade.

Agree 100%.

 

[ImporterExporter]

And honestly it seems like we're going to have a strong turnout so the need to double up is lessened.

We've got at least an outside shot of 30 this year once we get another wave or 2 of PM's sent.

 

[Dreakmur]

@Habsfan18
@Dreakmur
@ted2019

You 3 all picked "doesn't matter". Do you have a strong preference here? It's 7-4 in favor of keeping this a 1 team per GM draft. You 3 could technically tie it up but I agree with TDMM (and others) that trying to make a full trade draft with some people having 2 teams vs only 1, would be an effort in some madness.

Hoping we can get a pretty clear consensus one way or the other here. It would firm up the 2 biggest questions.

I assume others will show up to participate as we get closer to/after New Years. But I'm not ready, nor do I think we need to start sending out recruitment PM's in large quantities yet.

If I were to change my vote, it would be to a NO.

 

[ImporterExporter]

If I were to change my vote, it would be to a NO.

That would put it at 10-4 for the NO camp. Pretty sure we'll end up there at this point.