ATD 2016: Draft Thread III

jarek

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The draft will last 25 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 4 extra picks.

Now in the division quarterfinals.

Voting Schedule:
Assassinations end on Sunday, March 13th at midnight.
Regular season voting starts on Tuesday, March 15th and the deadline to get your votes in will be Sunday, March 20th at midnight.

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.
12 hour clock for the first two rounds, (sending a shortlist to another GM highly encouraged here)
then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-25

One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). Full, unrestricted trading is allowed in this draft according to the following rules:

Link to the trade thread

  • Trading is to be reasonably fair and balanced and lopsided trades will need to be re-worked or dropped. This is at the discretion of the trade committee.
  • Each team may make up to 8 trades.
  • A submitted trade counts towards the maximum, even if it is vetoed (exception - first time GMs). Don't submit lopsided trades.
  • No more than 4 assets per team may be traded at a time.
  • Swapping all positions before the draft doesn't count as a "trade" for the purposes of the above rules.
  • Trading while on the clock is allowed. However, using your entire clock to openly shop a pick annoys your fellow GMs, so do it sparingly. If GMs abuse trading on the clock, a rule could be added against it

4). ADD/DROPS - At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 7 day period for add/drops. All add/drops must be 1-for-1. Dropped players will NOT be eligible to be added by other teams. NO add/drops are allowed while the draft is running.

5). At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 10 day period for lineup assassinations. Assassinations will be divided by division.

6). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM (if the team is co-GM'd) per team. The penalty if not done is a potential lowering in the standings because each GM will rank his own team first. Co-GMs who both vote each get half a vote for the regular season rankings in their own division.

7). The playoffs will work according to the following format:

  • Round 1: 6 and 7 seeds play against each other in a play in round.
  • Round 2: (Division Quarterfinals): 1 and 2 seeds in each division get a bye, 3 vs Round 1 winner, 4 v 5
  • Round 3: (Division Semifinals): Possible reseeding depending on round 2 results. 1 v 4, 2 v 3 in each division
  • Round 4: (Division Finals): Division finalists play against each other
  • Round 5: (Conference Finals): Division winners play against each other
  • Round 6: (League Finals): Conference winners play against each other

8). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

9). PM the next team after you have made your pick. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL!

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ATD 2016 Draft Thread I
ATD 2016 Draft Thread II

GM List (click their name to PM them easily):
87and71
BenchBrawl
BraveCanadian
broad
Dreakmur
Dwight
Hawkey Town 18
Hobnobs
Iceman5
jarek
Johnny Engine
King Forsberg
Leaf Lander
MadArcand
markrander87
monster_bertuzzi
Nalyd Psycho
papershoes
ResilientBeast
rmartin65
Rob Scuderi
Shawked
Stoneberg & bluesfan94
tony d
VanIslander
Velociraptor

ATD 2016 Draft Order:

ROUND 1

1. markrander87 - China Dragon - Bobby Orr, D
2. Dwight - West Island Lions - Wayne Gretzky, C
3. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Gordie Howe, RW
4. broad - Haileybury Comets - Mario Lemieux, C
5. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ray Bourque, D
6. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Doug Harvey, D
7. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Eddie Shore, D
8. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Bobby Hull, LW
9. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Jean Beliveau, C
10. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Nicklas Lidstrom, D
11. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Maurice Richard, RW
12. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Stan Mikita, C
13. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Denis Potvin, D
14. tony d - New York Bobcats - Patrick Roy, G
15. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Red Kelly, D/C
16. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Jaromir Jagr, RW
17. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Mark Messier, C/LW
18. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Bobby Clarke, C
19. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Howie Morenz, C
20. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Viacheslav Fetisov, D
21. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Guy Lafleur, RW
22. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
23. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Dominik Hasek, G
24. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Larry Robinson, D
25. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Chris Chelios, D
26. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Phil Esposito, C

ROUND 2

27. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Brad Park, D
28. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Frank Nighbor, C
29. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Steve Yzerman, C
30. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Bryan Trottier, C
31. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Paul Coffey, D
32. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Jacques Plante, G
33. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Bill Cook, RW
34. tony d - New York Bobcats - Joe Sakic, C
35. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Pierre Pilote, D
36. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Alexander Ovechkin, LW
37. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - King Clancy, D
38. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Sergei Makarov, RW
39. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Sprague Cleghorn, D
40. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Martin Brodeur, G
41. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Mike Bossy, RW
42. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Earl Seibert, D
43. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Ted Lindsay, LW
44. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Al MacInnis, D
45. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Marcel Dionne, C
46. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Newsy Lalonde, C
47. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Frank Boucher, C
48. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Chris Pronger, D
49. broad - Haileybury Comets - Scott Stevens, D
50. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Tim Horton, D
51. Dwight - West Island Lions - Charlie Conacher, RW
52. markrander87 - China Dragon - Henri Richard, C

ROUND 3

53. markrander87 - China Dragon - Bernie Geoffrion, RW
54. Dwight - West Island Lions - Zdeno Chara, D
55. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Sidney Crosby, C
56. broad - Haileybury Comets - Milt Schmidt, C
57. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Peter Forsberg, C
58. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Andy Bathgate, RW
59. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Glenn Hall, G
60. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Brian Leetch, D
61. Hawkey Town - Chicago Shamrocks - Syl Apps Sr., C
62. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Dit Clapper, D/RW
63. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Jari Kurri, RW
64. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Bill Gadsby, D
65. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Sergei Fedorov, C
66. tony d - New York Bobcats - Börje Salming, D
67. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Terry Sawchuk, G
68. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Cy Denneny, LW
69. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
70. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Teemu Selanne, RW
71. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Dickie Moore, LW
72. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Ken Dryden, G
73. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Valeri Vasiliev, D
74. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Aurele Joliat, LW
75. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Bill Quackenbush, D
76. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Frank Mahovlich, LW
77. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Duncan Keith, D
78. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Joe Malone, C/LW (traded to King Forsberg)

ROUND 4

79. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Mark Howe, D
80. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Jarome Iginla, RW
81. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Serge Savard, D
82. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Ted Kennedy, C
83. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Max Bentley, C
84. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Elmer Lach, C
85. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Toe Blake, LW
86. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Boris Mikhailov, RW
87. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Rod Langway, D
88. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Martin St. Louis, RW
89. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Anatoli Firsov, LW
90. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Guy Lapointe, D
91. tony d - New York Bobcats - Doug Bentley, LW/C
92. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Scott Niedermayer, D
93. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Jack Stewart, D
94. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Doug Gilmour, C
95. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Busher Jackson, LW (traded to jarek)
96. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Eddie Gerard, D/LW
97. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Larry Murphy, D
98. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Norm Ullman, C
99. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Brett Hull, RW
100. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Georges Vezina, G
101. broad - Haileybury Comets - Pavel Bure, RW
102. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Sid Abel, C/LW
103. Dwight - West Island Lions - Tommy Phillips, LW
104. markrander87 - China Dragon - Ching Johnson, D

ROUND 5

105. markrander87 - China Dragon - Johnny Bucyk, LW
106. Dwight - West Island Lions - Alexei Kasatonov, D (traded to ResilientBeast)
107. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Rob Blake, D (traded to Dwight)
108. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Vladislav Tretiak, G
109. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ron Francis, C
110. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Bryan Hextall Sr., RW
111. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Alexander Maltsev, C/RW
112. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Rod Gilbert, RW
113. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Marcel Pronovost, D
114. broad - Haileybury Comets - Jean-Claude Tremblay, D
115. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Syd Howe, LW/C
116. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Jacques Laperrière, D
117. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brendan Shanahan, LW
118. tony d - New York Bobcats - Emile "Butch" Bouchard, D
119. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Ebbie Goodfellow, D/C
120. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Alex Delvecchio, C/LW
121. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Shea Weber, D
122. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Michel Goulet, LW
123. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Bill Cowley, C
124. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Sweeney Schriner, LW
125. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Frank Brimsek, G
126. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Hooley Smith, C/RW
127. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Ernie "Moose" Johnson, D
128. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Clint Benedict, G
129. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Luc Robitaille, LW
130. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Hod Stuart, D

ROUND 6

131. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Lionel Conacher, D
132. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Carl Brewer, D
133. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Pavel Datsyuk, C
134. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Babe Siebert, D/LW
135. broad - Haileybury Comets - Henrik Zetterberg, C/LW
136. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Paul Kariya, LW
137. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Georges Boucher, D
138. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Charlie Gardiner, G
139. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Peter Stastny, C
140. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Art Coulter, D
141. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Tom Johnson, D
142. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Nels Stewart, C
143. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Vladimir Martinec, RW
144. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
145. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Joe Thornton, C
146. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Sylvio Mantha, D
147. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Mark Recchi, RW
148. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Eric Lindros, C
149. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Evgeni Malkin, C
150. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Bert Olmstead, LW
151. tony d - New York Bobcats - Cam Neely, RW
152. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - John Leclair, LW
153. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Dave Keon, C
154. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Ed Belfour, G
155. Dwight - West Island Lions - Walter Broda, G
156. markrander87 - China Dragon - Jan Suchy, D

ROUND 7

157. markrander87 - China Dragon - Gilbert Perreault, C
158. Dwight - West Island Lions - Adam Oates, C
159. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - František Pospíšil, D
160. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Ken Reardon, D
161. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Patrick Kane, RW
162. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Marty Barry, C
163. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Doug Wilson, D
164. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Mike Gartner, RW
165. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Jean Ratelle, C
166. broad - Haileybury Comets - Woody Dumart, LW
167. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Mike Modano, C
168. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Harry Cameron, D
169. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Jimmy Thomson, D
170. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Roy Conacher, LW
171. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Ilya Kovalchuk, W
172. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Bill Durnan, G
173. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Lester Patrick, D
174. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Bill White, D
175. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Allan Stanley, D
176. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Reg Noble, LW/D/C
177. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Alexander Yakushev, LW
178. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Fern Flaman, D
179. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Erik Karlsson, D
180. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
181. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bernie Parent, G
182. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Marian Hossa, RW

ROUND 8

183. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Sergei Zubov, D
184. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Mickey Mackay, C
185. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Harvey Pulford, D
186. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Harry Howell, D (traded to King Forsberg)
187. broad - Haileybury Comets - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
188. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Art Ross, D
189. tony d - New York Bobcats - Eric Desjardins, D
190. tony d - New York Bobcats - Vladimir Petrov, C
191. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Clark Gillies, LW
192. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Denis Savard, C
193. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Theoren Fleury, RW
194. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Hap Day, D
195. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Tony Esposito, G
196. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Babe Dye, RW
197. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Herb Gardiner, D (traded to 87and71)
198. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Patrick Elias, LW
199. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Dale Hawerchuk, C
200. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Wayne Cashman, LW
201. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Paul Thompson, LW
202. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Alexander Ragulin, D
203. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Vladimir Krutov, LW
204. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Pat Stapleton, D
205. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Vaclav Nedomansky, C/RW
206. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Johnny Bower, G
207. Dwight - West Island Lions - Rick Martin, LW
208. markrander87 - China Dragon - Roy Worters, G

ROUND 9

209. markrander87 - China Dragon - Rick Middleton, RW
210. Dwight - West Island Lions - Ott Heller, D
211. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Markus Naslund, LW
212. broad - Haileybury Comets - Gary Suter, D
213. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Keith Tkachuk, LW
214. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Frank Foyston, F
215. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Drew Doughty, D
216. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Bun Cook, LW
217. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Jiří Holeček, G
218. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Jack Crawford, D
219. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Bill Barber, LW
220. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - George Hay, LW
221. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Darryl Sittler, C
222. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Billy Smith, G
223. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Mats Sundin, C
224. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Frank Fredrickson, C
225. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Didier Pitre, RW
226. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Punch Broadbent, RW
227. tony d - New York Bobcats - Helmuts Balderis, RW
228. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Duke Keats, C
229. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Red Horner, D
230. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Cecil Dillon, RW
231. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Bob Gainey, LW
232. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Rod Brind'amour, C/LW
233. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Zigmund Palffy, RW
234. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Brian Propp, LW

ROUND 10

235. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Brad McCrimmon, D
236. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Gordie Drillon, RW
237. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Glenn Anderson, RW/LW
238. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Vladimir Lutchenko, D (traded to MadArcand)
239. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Guy Carbonneau, C
240. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Lanny McDonald, RW
241. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Jack Walker, RW/C/LW
242. tony d - New York Bobcats - Lionel Hitchman, D
243. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Jacques Lemaire, C
244. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Igor Larionov, C
245. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Elmer Vasko, D
246. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Doug Mohns, D/LW
247. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Steve Larmer, RW
248. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gus Mortson, D
249. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Claude Provost, RW
250. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bob Pulford, LW/C
251. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Baldy Northcott, LW/D
252. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Dany Heatley, LW/RW
253. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Sergei Gonchar, D
254. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Bill Mosienko, RW
255. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Grant Fuhr, G
256. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Babe Pratt, D (traded to 87and71)
257. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Mike Grant, D
258. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Bobby Rousseau, RW
259. Dwight - West Island Lions - Jim Schoenfeld, D
260. markrander87 - China Dragon - Dean Prentice, LW

ROUND 11

261. markrander87 - China Dragon - Craig Ramsay, LW
262. Dwight - West Island Lions - Larry Aurie, RW
263. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Derian Hatcher, D
264. broad - Haileybury Comets - Jonathan Toews, C
265. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Ryan Getzlaf, C
266. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Bob Goldham, D
267. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Patrice Bergeron, C
268. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Herbie Lewis, LW
269. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Alf Smith, RW
270. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Ace Bailey, RW
271. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Dave Taylor, RW
272. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Henrik Sedin, C
273. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gary Roberts, LW
274. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Ryan Suter, D
275. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Jere Lehtinen, W
276. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Walter Tkaczuk, C
277. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - George Armstrong, RW
278. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Dan Boyle, D
279. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Neil Colville, C/D
280. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Adam Foote, D
281. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Russell Bowie, C
282. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Bernie Morris, C/RW
283. broad - Haileybury Comets - Bob Baun, D
284. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Leo Boivin, D
285. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Anze Kopitar, C
286. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Bobby Bauer, RW

ROUND 12

287. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Jeremy Roenick, C
288. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Art Duncan, D
289. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Scotty Bowman, coach
290. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Marty Pavelich, LW
291. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Cooney Weiland, C
292. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Joe Primeau, C
293. tony d - New York Bobcats - Michael Peca, C
294. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Hugh Lehman, G
295. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Tony Leswick, LW/RW
296. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Joe Hall, D/RW
297. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Tommy Ivan, coach
298. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Milan Novy, C
299. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Cy Wentworth, D
300. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Phil Housley, D
301. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - John Tonelli, LW
302. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jim Neilson, D
303. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Toe Blake, coach
304. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Leo Reise Jr., D
305. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Pat Lafontaine, C
306. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Gordon Roberts, LW
307. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Lester Patrick, coach
308. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Al Arbour, coach
309. broad - Haileybury Comets - Daniel Sedin, LW
310. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Ed Westfall, RW
311. Dwight - West Island Lions - Don Luce, C
312. markrander87 - China Dragon - Barry Beck, D

ROUND 13

313. markrander87 - China Dragon - Pit Lepine, C
314. Dwight - West Island Lions - Joe Klukay, W
315. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Mike Ramsey, D
316. broad - Haileybury Comets - Vyacheslav Starshinov, C
317. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Corey Perry, RW
318. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Jiri Holik, LW
319. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Alexander Mogilny, RW
320. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Steve Shutt, LW
321. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Odie Cleghorn, RW
322. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Hap Day, coach
323. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ralph Backstrom, C
324. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Peter Bondra, RW
325. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Joel Quenneville, coach
326. tony d - New York Bobcats - Kevin Stevens, LW
327. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Eddie Oatman, RW/D
328. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Joe Nieuwendyk, C (traded to broad)
329. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Ken Hodge, RW
330. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Fred Shero, coach
331. tony d - New York Bobcats - Flash Hollett, D
332. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Mike Babcock, coach
333. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Nick Metz, LW
334. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Vic Stasiuk, LW/RW
335. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Smokey Harris, LW
336. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Brian Rafalski, D
337. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Harry Watson, LW
338. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Kevin Lowe, D

ROUND 14

339. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Tommy Gorman, coach
340. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Johnny Gottselig, LW
341. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Don Marcotte, F
342. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Terry Harper, D
343. broad - Haileybury Comets - Joe Mullen, RW
344. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Phil Watson, C
345. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Si Griffis, D
346. tony d - New York Bobcats - Esa Tikkanen, LW
347. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Tiny Thompson, G
348. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Dick Duff, LW (traded to Iceman)
349. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Lennart Svedberg, D
350. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Claude Lemieux, RW/LW
351. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Lloyd Cook, D
352. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Ulf Samuelsson, D
353. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Henrik Lundqvist, G
354. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Shane Doan, RW
355. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Joel Otto, C
356. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Teppo Numminen, D
357. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Glen Sather, coach
358. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Jean-Guy Talbot, D
359. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Bob Nevin, RW
360. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Dino Ciccarelli, RW
361. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Anatoli Tarasov, coach
362. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Joe Simpson, D
363. Dwight - West Island Lions - Frank Patrick, D
364. markrander87 - China Dragon - Frank Finnigan, RW

ROUND 15

365. markrander87 - China Dragon - Red Dutton, D
366. Dwight - West Island Lions - Cecil Hart, coach
367. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Steven Stamkos, C
368. broad - Haileybury Comets - PK Subban, D
369. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Charlie Simmer, LW
370. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Ivan Hlinka, C
371. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Sid Smith, LW
372. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - John Madden, C/LW
373. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Patrick Marleau, LW/C
374. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Don McKenney, C/LW
375. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jimmy Ward, RW
376. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Dick Irvin Sr., coach
377. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Vincent Damphousse, C/LW
378. tony d - New York Bobcats - Jean Pronovost, RW
379. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Pavol Demitra, LW/C
380. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Pete Mahovlich, C
381. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Ted Harris, D
382. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Danny Gare, RW
383. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Sergei Kapustin, LW
384. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Ken Mosdell, C
385. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Vladimir Shadrin, C
386. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Brian Sutter, LW
387. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Frank McGee, C
388. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Kimmo Timonen, D
389. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Fred Stanfield, C/LW
390. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Reed Larson, D

ROUND 16

391. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Red Sullivan, C
392. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Pete Green, coach
393. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Mats Naslund, LW
394. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Kevin Hatcher, D
395. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Vitaly Davydov, D
396. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Gary Bergman, D
397. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Vladimir Vikulov, RW
398. tony d - New York Bobcats - Ted Green, D
399. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Dave Andreychuk, LW/C
400. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Pat Egan, D
401. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Adam Graves, LW
402. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Derek Sanderson, C
403. tony d - New York Bobcats - Phil Goyette, C
404. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Tim Kerr, RW
405. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Marty Walsh, C
406. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Don Marshall, LW/C
407. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Sandis Ozolinsh, D
408. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Doug Jarvis, C
409. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Paul Reinhart, D
410. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Randy Carlyle, D
411. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Dirk Graham, RW
412. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Dustin Byfuglien, D/RW
413. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Pierre Turgeon, C
414. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Bobby Rowe, D
415. Dwight - West Island Lions - Tony Amonte, RW
416. markrander87 - China Dragon - Owen Nolan, RW

ROUND 17

417. markrander87 - China Dragon - Art Ross, coach
418. Dwight - West Island Lions - Jamie Benn, LW
419. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - George Hainsworth, G
420. broad - Haileybury Comets - Pat Burns, coach
421. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Tommy Smith, C/LW
422. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Rusty Crawford, F
423. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Jacques Demers, coach
424. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Marian Gaborik, RW
425. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Bill Hajt, D
426. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Rick Nash, LW (traded to Dreakmur)
427. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Dave Burrows, D
428. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Lars-Erik Sjöberg, D
429. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Wendel Clark, LW
430. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Nikolai Sologubov, D
431. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Eric Nesterenko, RW
432. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Bobby Holik, C
433. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Jerry Toppazzini, RW
434. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Stefan Persson, D
435. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Bruce Stuart, F
436. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Blair Russel, F
437. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Gaye Stewart, LW
438. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Ron Ellis, RW
439. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Claude Giroux, C/RW (traded to King Forsberg)
440. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Reggie Leach, RW
441. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Rob Ramage, D
442. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Bill Guerin, RW

ROUND 18

443. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Dave Balon, LW
444. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Zach Parise, LW
445. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Rick Tocchet, RW
446. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Veniamin Alexandrov, LW
447. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Butch Goring, C
448. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Bob Johnson, coach
449. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Gilles Tremblay, LW
450. tony d - New York Bobcats - Darryl Sutter, coach
451. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Jimmy Watson, D
452. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Barry Trotz, coach
453. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Eric Staal, C
454. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Nicklas Backstrom, C
455. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Bernie Federko, C
456. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Brad Richards, C
457. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Dave Poulin, C (traded to 87and71)
458. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Glen Harmon, D
459. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Eduard Ivanov, D
460. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Harry Lumley, G
461. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Todd Bertuzzi, W
462. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Edgar Laprade, C
463. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Dale Hunter, C
464. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Kirk Muller, C/LW
465. broad - Haileybury Comets - Tom Barrasso, G
466. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Peter Laviolette, coach
467. Dwight - West Island Lions - Keith Magnuson, D (dropped for Dion Phaneuf, D)
468. markrander87 - China Dragon - Thomas Steen, C

ROUND 19

469. markrander87 - China Dragon - Camile Henry, LW
470. Dwight - West Island Lions - Fleming Mackell, C/LW
471. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Gregg Sheppard, C/LW
472. broad - Haileybury Comets - Hap Holmes, G
473. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Taffy Abel, D
474. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Gump Worsley, G
475. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Ed Litzenberger, RW/C
476. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Steve Smith, D
477. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Floyd Curry, RW
478. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Steve Kasper, C
479. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Rod Seiling, D
480. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Mel Bridgman, LW/C
481. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Todd Sloan, C/RW
482. tony d - New York Bobcats - Wilf Paiement, RW
483. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Vic Hadfield, LW
484. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Andrei Markov, D
485. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Bernie Nicholls, C
486. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Dan Bain, C
487. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Pat Quinn, coach
488. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Boris Mayorov, LW
489. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Jack Darragh, RW
490. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Igor Liba, LW
491. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Alain Vigneault, coach (dropped for Claude Julien, coach)
492. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Rejean Houle, F
493. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Gennady Tsygankov, D
494. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Mike Keenan, Coach

ROUND 20

495. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Mario Tremblay, RW
496. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Bruce MacGregor, RW
497. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Kris Draper, C
498. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Ernie Russell, C/RW
499. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Arkady Chernyshev, coach
500. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Jiri Bubla, D
501. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Bert Corbeau, D
502. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Terry O'Reilly, RW
503. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Bob Bourne, F
504. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Jack Marshall, F/D
505. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - John McKenzie, RW
506. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Ken Morrow, D
507. tony d - New York Bobcats - Dave Trottier, LW
508. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - J.P. Parise, LW
509. broad - Haileybury Comets - Ryan Kesler, C/RW
510. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Hamby Shore, D/LW
511. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Curtis Joseph, G
512. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Brian Rolston, F
513. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Ryan Smyth, LW
514. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Tommy Dunderdale, C
515. tony d - New York Bobcats - Carol Vadnais, D
516. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Brent Seabrook, D
517. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Johnny Peirson, RW
518. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - John Maclean, RW
519. Dwight - West Island Lions - Chuck Rayner, G
520. markrander87 - China Dragon - Bob Armstrong, D

ROUND 21

521. markrander87 - China Dragon - Tim Thomas, G
522. Dwight - West Island Lions - Bengt-Ã…ke Gustafsson, RW
523. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Bob Davidson, LW
524. broad - Haileybury Comets - Billy Burch, LW/C/D
525. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - James Patrick, D
526. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Rogie Vachon, G
527. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Ed Sandford, LW
528. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Roberto Luongo, G
529. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Viktor Tikhonov, coach
530. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Jimmy Roberts, RW/D
531. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Fred Lake, D/LW
532. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Yuri Liapkin, D
533. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Wally Stanowski, D
534. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Lorne Chabot, G
535. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Trevor Linden, C/RW
536. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Al Secord, LW (dropped for Simon Gagne, LW)
537. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Ken Randall, RW/D
538. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Bob Nystrom, RW
539. tony d - New York Bobcats - Pat Verbeek, RW
540. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - John Vanbiesbrouck, G
541. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Percy LeSueur, G
542. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Robert Svehla, D
543. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Konstantin Loktev, RW
544. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Red Berenson, C/LW
545. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Miikka Kiprusoff, G
546. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Bobby Smith, C

ROUND 22

547. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Larry Robinson, coach
548. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Ken Hitchcock, coach
549. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Al Arbour, D
550. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Ed Giacomin, G
551. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Lynn Patrick, LW
552. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Harry Westwick, C
553. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Albert Leduc, D
554. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Cully Wilson, RW
555. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Mike Liut, G
556. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Patrick Sharp, F
557. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Doug Weight, C
558. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Alec Connell, G
559. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Dallas Smith, D
560. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Gerry Cheevers, G
561. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - David Backes, C/RW
562. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bill Thoms, C
563. tony d - New York Bobcats - Dennis Hull, LW
564. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Rick MacLeish, C/LW
565. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Jamie Macoun, D (dropped for Jeff Carter, C/RW)
566. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Craig Hartsburg, D
567. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Viktor Kuzkin, D
568. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Jonathan Quick, G
569. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Steve Duchesne, D
570. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Vincent Lecavalier, C
571. Dwight - West Island Lions - Yvon Lambert, LW/C
572. markrander87 - China Dragon - Rick Vaive, RW

ROUND 23

573. markrander87 - China Dragon - Jerry Korab, D
574. Dwight - West Island Lions - Wade Redden, D
575. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Bucko McDonald, D
576. broad - Haileybury Comets - Joe Pavelski, F
577. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Keith Primeau, C
578. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Jack Adams, C/LW
579. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Craig Ludwig, D
580. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Jason Spezza, C
581. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Pud Glass, F
582. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Ray Getliffe, LW/C
583. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Miroslav Satan, W
584. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Zinetula Bilyaletdinov, D
585. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Andrew Ladd, LW
586. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Al Iafrate, D
587. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Pete Muldoon, coach
588. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Mathieu Schneider, D
589. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Willie Mitchell, D
590. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Glen Wesley, D
591. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Goldie Prodger, F/D
592. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Alf Skinner, RW
593. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Vasili Pervukhin, D
594. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Ron Stackhouse, D
595. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Frantisek Tikal, D (dropped for Niklas Kronwall, D)
596. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Vladimir Dzurilla, G
597. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Robyn Regehr, D
598. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Mike Richter, G

ROUND 24

599. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Kris Letang, D
600. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Troy Murray, C
601. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Calle Johansson, D
602. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - Rene Robert, RW
603. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Brent Sutter, C
604. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Alex Tanguay, LW
605. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Ryan Walter, C/LW
606. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Harry Oliver, RW
607. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Georges Mantha, LW/D
608. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Roger Neilson, coach
609. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Jim Pappin, RW
610. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Brent Burns, D/RW
611. tony d - New York Bobcats - Dave Kerr, G
612. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Ed Van Impe, D
613. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Al Rollins, G
614. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bryan McCabe, D
615. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Billy Reay, coach
616. Velociraptor - Tupelo T-Rex - Reggie Fleming, LW/D
617. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Brian Campbell, D
618. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Riley Hern, G
619. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Kent Nilsson, C/RW
620. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Milan Hejduk, RW
621. broad - Haileybury Comets - George McNamara, D
622. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Alex Pietrangelo, D
623. Dwight - West Island Lions - Ken Wharram, RW
624. markrander87 - China Dragon - Cal Gardner, C

ROUND 25

625. markrander87 - China Dragon - Ron Stewart, RW/D
626. Dwight - West Island Lions - Doug Barkley, D
627. BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Carey Price, G
628. broad - Haileybury Comets - Mike Foligno, RW
629. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - John Tavares, C
630. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh Athletic Club - Brendan Morrow, LW
631. VanIslander - Greenville Swamp Rabbits - Harry Hyland, RW
632. Shawked - Kentucky Thoroughblades - Alexei Kovalev, RW (dropped for Phil Kessel, RW)
633. broad - Haileybury Comets - Mike Richards, C
634. Iceman5 - Stockholm Full Throttle - Billy Boucher, RW
635. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Jamie Langenbrunner, RW
636. King Forsberg - Atlantic City Boardwalk Bullies - Jason Arnott, C
637. Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Lorne Carr, RW
638. tony d - New York Bobcats - Dollard St. Laurent, D
639. Nalyd Psycho - Minnesota Fighting Saints - Harry Smith, C/LW
640. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires - Mattias Ohlund, D
641. Dreakmur - Couchiching Terriers - Mike Vernon, G
642. papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Graham Drinkwater, F/D
643. jarek - Home Hardware 2x4s - Albert Kerr, LW
644. ResilientBeast - Colorado Rockies - Dennis Hextall, LW
645. Johnny Engine - The Kingdom of Bohemia - Barney Stanley, RW/D
646. Stoneberg & bluesfan94 - Halifax Citadels - Evgeni Nabokov, G
647. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Pirates - John Ferguson, LW (dropped for Tumba Johansson, C)
648. Hobnobs - Rögle BK - Pit Martin, C/RW
649. BraveCanadian - Guelph Platers - Ray Whitney, LW
650. rmartin65 - Miami Screaming Eagles - Paul Maclean, RW
 
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Theokritos

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Ohh, that does explain a lot. With Firsov on the line, I would imagine they were used roughly the same. Not that Vikulov couldn't hold his own, of course.

Right. The thing to keep in mind is that Kharlamov-Petrov-Mikhailov was a regular line for two separate periods of time: they played together from 1968 to 1971, then they were split up after the 1970-1971 season and then they were reunited in December 1972. The idea of them as the "first line" only really applies to their second stint, after the Summit Series. This is true for CSKA Moscow and even more so for the Soviet national team. For example, I've seen the Firsov line (with Vikulov) referred to as the "first line" at the 1970 World Championship* and then there still was the Starshinov/Maltsev line at least on par with Kharlamov/Petrov/Mikhailov.

*Check out Starshinov's comment on Vikulov.
 

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Greenville selects Randy Carlyle, the 1981 Norris trophy winner who went on to captain the Penguins for three years and play in four all-star games over his 1055-game career, scoring 647 points.

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... hit his stride as a strong defensive leader with offensive talents.

The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1987 said:
... one of the NHL's most efficient defensemen... excellent in close contact situations... almost always gets the upper hand...
 

jarek

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Right. The thing to keep in mind is that Kharlamov-Petrov-Mikhailov was a regular line for two separate periods of time: they played together from 1968 to 1971, then they were split up after the 1970-1971 season and then they were reunited in December 1972. The idea of them as the "first line" only really applies to their second stint, after the Summit Series. This is true for CSKA Moscow and even more so for the Soviet national team. For example, I've seen the Firsov line (with Vikulov) referred to as the "first line" at the 1970 World Championship* and then there still was the Starshinov/Maltsev line at least on par with Kharlamov/Petrov/Mikhailov.

*Check out Starshinov's comment on Vikulov.

Thanks a lot for this! Puts things into perspective.

Nalyd selects.. this guy:

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Dustin Byfuglien, D/RW
 

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So now that he's been taken I can ask: Why is Carlyle ranked so poorly compared to other Norris winners? I assume because it was a weak year and he didn't really come close again. But, there are plenty of other defensemen who went before him who have worse Norris voting records.
 

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Pittsburgh will start our fourth line with a checker who was an excellent penalty killer...Don Marshall, LW/C
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- 2nd Team All-Star (to Bobby Hull) in 1967
- 7 Time All Star Game participant (56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 68).
- Finished second in a 1965 coaches pull (after Bob Pulford) for the Best Penalty Killer in the league. Only Pulford and Marshall received votes. Source
- 3 Times Top 15 in goals (11, 14, 14)
- 2 Times Top 20 in points (15, 17)
-Won 5 Cups in a row as a defensive specialist (56, 57, 58, 59, 60)



The Montreal Gazette - Sep 20, 1960:

The Ottawa Citizen - Feb 16, 1961:

The Ottawa Citizen - Mar 11, 1961:

Montreal Gazette - Mar 26, 1986:

Ripping this quote from Nevin's bio...


TDMM's bio

Another excellent pick. Checking LW who can play C on the PK and chip in some points. What's not to like?

For whatever reason, GMs this draft have been letting Original 6 era checkers drop in favor of less talented checkers from the larger league era.
 

BraveCanadian

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So now that he's been taken I can ask: Why is Carlyle ranked so poorly compared to other Norris winners? I assume because it was a weak year and he didn't really come close again. But, there are plenty of other defensemen who went before him who have worse Norris voting records.

Outside his one big year he doesn't have a lot else as far as voting records go.. and because he played on abysmal teams he ran up a nice run of minuses that people probably give too much weight to.
 

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Another excellent pick. Checking LW who can play C on the PK and chip in some points. What's not to like?

For whatever reason, GMs this draft have been letting Original 6 era checkers drop in favor of less talented checkers from the larger league era.

I think it goes back to what I said earlier about how modern specialists have the advantage when it comes to special-teams spots here because their roles and performance on those units are much better documented.

I mean...between your old profile, the Nevin bio, and the new information Rob's produced about Marshall, I think it's clear that he's on the shortlist of best PKers of the O6 era, but it took a lot of work to get there. It's just a hell of a lot easier to draft a modern guy, point to his Selke voting and PK%, and be done with it.
 

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Time now for the Day 29 review of the 2016 ATD, a day where we saw 15 picks:

- Dirk Graham was picked: Had I gone for the real type checking line Graham would have been my pick ahead of Pronovost, I had Graham in a previous ATD, was very impressed in what he brought to the team.

- Don Marshall was picked: Another solid choice, seems like a prototypical 3rd/4th line player in this.

- Pierre Turgeon was picked: Good pick as well, guy is very under appreciated, sure he's offense only, but surround him with 2 2 way guys and he should be fine.

- Dustin Byfuglien was picked: Massive rise for him this year but he does bring a certain specialty and is the perfect fit for what Nalyd is doing for his team.

- Dave Andreychuk was picked: Was wondering when he'd go, guy is more or less a goal scorer but those are always good to have.

Anyway those are my Day 29 thoughts, looking forward to Day 30.
 

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I think it goes back to what I said earlier about how modern specialists have the advantage when it comes to special-teams spots here because their roles and performance on those units are much better documented.

I mean...between your old profile, the Nevin bio, and the new information Rob's produced about Marshall, I think it's clear that he's on the shortlist of best PKers of the O6 era, but it took a lot of work to get there. It's just a hell of a lot easier to draft a modern guy, point to his Selke voting and PK%, and be done with it.

Then GMs are relying on the PKTOI stats for modern players too much. We've known Marshall was the top PKer for a dynasty for a few years now, and we've had access to the "retro Selke" awards, which are based off quesrionable material, but at least correlate strongly with PKing.

Some of the modern PK specialists wouldn't even have roster spots if the league contracted.
 

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Then GMs are relying on the PKTOI stats for modern players too much. We've known Marshall was the top PKer for a dynasty for a few years now, and we've had access to the "retro Selke" awards, which are based off quesrionable material, but at least correlate strongly with PKing.

Some of the modern PK specialists wouldn't even have roster spots if the league contracted.

I don't get the criticism.

I'm pretty sure that actually PKing (as in recorded PKTOI) correlates pretting strongly with PKing too.

Like I said last time it was brought up in the thread.. I think that the bias is actually the opposite because you can find some backing in articles / quotes from the past and with an older player -- you're done. Modern players you can actually verify.

Not to say we shouldn't prefer to find both kinds of players for our teams, though.
 

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Then GMs are relying on the PKTOI stats for modern players too much. We've known Marshall was the top PKer for a dynasty for a few years now, and we've had access to the "retro Selke" awards, which are based off quesrionable material, but at least correlate strongly with PKing.

Some of the modern PK specialists wouldn't even have roster spots if the league contracted.

Well, it's not really about the marginal modern guys...at least not at this point. I think it's really about the value of quantification, and the gap between the top modern PKers and guys from earlier generations for whom hard statistics are not generally available.

I'll offer an example that may be controversial: I see very little difference between Don Marshall and Craig Ramsay as players. Both were outstanding finesse checkers with good offensive skills, and among the greatest penalty-killers of their respective generations. As far as I can tell, the 150 pick gap between them rests entirely on the quantifiability of Ramsay's performance (both personal and team numbers) as opposed to the more nebulous (though now fairly voluminous) descriptive accounts of Marshall's prowess.
 

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I don't get the criticism.

I'm pretty sure that actually PKing (as in recorded PKTOI) correlates pretting strongly with PKing too.

Like I said last time it was brought up in the thread.. I think that the bias is actually the opposite because you can find some backing in articles / quotes from the past and with an older player -- you're done. Modern players you can actually verify.

Not to say we shouldn't prefer to find both kinds of players for our teams, though.

There is enough information out there to tell that Ken Mosdell and especially Don Marshall were among the most prolific penalty killers of their eras. Less for George Sullivan, but that one coach's poll is a good start.

Just because it's easier to look at a single line of overpass' spreadsheet does not mean that the information isn't out there for at least some older players if you care to look.

And of course, the three players I mentioned have quite a bit more offensive upside than checkers in a larger league. (I don't mean modern two-way players like Brind'amour or Toews for example, I mean checkers).
 

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Alright, I don't want to hold things up anymore. Let's just pick

Jamie Benn, LW

and see what happens :D

I vaulted him into the MLD last year and argued strongly for it. After yet another stellar seasons so far he's worthy of a bottom 6 scoring role as a power forward. And he's not far off from being a legit 2nd line player. If his 2017 is as good as the past 2 years, he'll be there IMO.

FTR, i have him as the 2nd team AS right now at LW behind Ovechkin, who's leading the league in goals, on the best team in the NHL. But it wouldn't surprise me if they flip flop come post season award voting (barring injury of course, knock on wood for both)....
 

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Benn is fine as a 4th line LWer, but whether he's the best option for that type of guy I'm not sure.

He is definitely an ATD 4th liner by now due to his size and physicality.

Really nothing spectacular though.
 

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Ability to understand basic defensive fundamentals?

I think that overstates Hatcher's defensive inabilities, while also implying Timonen was a defensive whiz. Timonen was a solid #1 defenseman for years, but he wasn't saddled with a lot of defensive responsibility.

A lot of coaches gave Hatcher a lot of minutes in all situations, and his teams were quite successful overall.

Where is this treasure trove you speak of? seventies has at least 98% of all hockey history books ever printed, and even he had a hard time finding anything!

LOL

LOL. I bought close to a hundred books from him and at least 15 of them have Walsh references. He is NOT one of the obscure underappreciated greats.

Not a lot about his play, though.

The best stuff I ever found on Walsh was by going through old newspapers.
 

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I think that overstates Hatcher's defensive inabilities, while also implying Timonen was a defensive whiz. Timonen was a solid #1 defenseman for years, but he wasn't saddled with a lot of defensive responsibility.

A lot of coaches gave Hatcher a lot of minutes in all situations, and his teams were quite successful overall.

Timmonen actually was excellent defensively. Except for the little problem of him being so little.

Timmonen is the polar opposite of Hatcher. Hatcher could physically control the play, but had bad reads. Timmonen excelled at reading the play, but could be physically controlled.

They would probably make a good pair.
 

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By the most commonly used measures to evaluate players, Kevin Hatcher looks better than Timonen. Better Norris/All-Star record. More relied on at even stength and especially the penalty kill by better teams.

Hatcher's problem was a tendency to make spectacular mistakes, the kind that are easy to remember. (In a past ATD playoff series, I called him Kevin "whoops" Hatcher).

In the ATD, I expect Timonen to struggle against bigger forwards. Hatcher has no such weakness, but will make spectacular mistakes from time to time. IMO, The overall record shows that Hatcher should be more effective on average, but to each their own
 

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