ATD 2014 Draft Thread I

[Sturminator]

1). The draft will last 25 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 4 extra picks.

Now on a 10 hour clock.

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.

• 12 hour clock for the first two rounds, (sending a shortlist to another GM highly encouraged here)
• then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
• then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
• then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
• then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-25

One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). Trades - No trades!

• Swapping your entire set of draft picks with another GM before either of you has made a single pick is allowed, however.

4). ADD/DROPS - At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 7 day period for add/drops. All add/drops must be 1-for-1. Dropped players will NOT be eligible to be added by other teams.

5). At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 10 day period for lineup assassinations. Assassinations will be divided by division.

6). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM (if the team is co-GM'd) per team. The penalty if not done is a potential lowering in the standings because each GM will rank his own team first. Co-GMs who both vote each get half a vote for the regular season rankings in their own division.

GMs who vote in every round of the playoffs will get preference of their draft positions in the following draft.

7). All Teams make the playoffs. The conferences will be divided into two divisions of 7 each, with the regular season divisional winner getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs. The first round of the playoffs will feature three intra-divisional matchups in each division, after which the remaining teams will compete in divisional semifinals (standard high vs. low seed) and divisional finals rounds. Winners of the divisions will meet in the conference finals, and winners of the conference will meet in the draft finals.

8). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

9). PM the next team after you have made your pick. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL!

The 2014 Draft Order:

Round 1:

1. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers: Bobby Orr, D
2. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers: Wayne Gretzky, C
3. SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles: Gordie Howe, RW
4. tony_d - Indianapolis Racers: Doug Harvey, D
5. chaosrevolver & Dreakmur: Montreal Shamrocks: Ray Bourque, D
6. ted1971 - As de Québec: Maurice Richard, RW
7. Hobnobs - Rögle BK: Nicklas Lidstrom, D
8. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks: Mario Lemieux, C
9. Stoneberg - Halifax Citadels: Eddie Shore, D
10. BillyShoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers: Bobby Hull, LW
11. markrander87 - Victoria Salsa: Jean Beliveau, C
12. Johnny Engine - Buchans Miners: Patrick Roy, G
13. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Eskimos: Stan Mikita, C
14. bluesfan94 & Nalyd Psycho - Kansas City Scouts: Denis Potvin, D
15. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils: Red Kelly, D/C
16. Jafar - Montreal Canadiens: Howie Morenz, C
17. King Forsberg - Modo Hockey: Jaromir Jagr, RW
18. Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings: Dominik Hasek, G
19. Velociraptor - Belfast Giants: Bobby Clarke, C
20. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires: Mark Messier, C/LW
21. Dwight - West Island Lions: Bryan Trottier, C
22. papershoes - Kenora Thistles: Larry Robinson, D
23. Modo - Eishockeyclub München e.V.: Steve Yzerman, C
24. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers: Guy Lafleur, RW
25. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh AC: Slava Fetisov, D
26. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Hornets: Mike Bossy, RW
27. LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs: Chris Chelios, D
28. Hedberg & VanIslander - New York Rangers: Joe Sakic, C

Round 2:

29. Hedberg & VanIslander - New York Rangers: Brad Park, D
30. LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs: Phil Esposito, C
31. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Hornets: Ted Lindsay, LW
32. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh AC: Frank Nighbor, C/LW
33. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers: Jacques Plante, G
34. Modo - Eishockeyclub München e.V.: Valeri Kharlamov, LW
35. papershoes - Kenora Thistles: Cyclone Taylor, C/D
36. Dwight - West Island Lions: Pierre Pilote, D
37. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires: King Clancy, D
38. Velociraptor - Belfast Giants: Paul Coffey, D
39. Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings: Scott Stevens, D
40. King Forsberg - Modo Hockey: Chris Pronger, D
41. Jafar - Montreal Canadiens: Sprague Cleghorn, D
42. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils: Bill Cook, RW
43. bluesfan94 & Nalyd Psycho - Kansas City Scouts: Milt Schmidt, C
44. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Eskimos: Tim Horton, D
45. Johnny Engine - Buchans Miners: Al MacInnis, D
46. markrander87 - Victoria Salsa: Earl Seibert, D
47. BillyShoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers: Glenn Hall, G
48. Stoneberg - Halifax Citadels: Terry Sawchuk, G
49. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks: Bill Gadsby, D
50. Hobnobs - Rögle BK: Frank Boucher, C
51. ted1971 - As de Québec: Alexander Ovechkin, LW
52. chaosrevolver & Dreakmur: Montreal Shamrocks: Frank Mahovlich, LW
53. tony_d - Indianapolis Racers: Newsy Lalonde, C
54. SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles: Ken Dryden, G
55. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers: Jari Kurri, RW
56. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers: Syl Apps, C

Round 3:

57. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers: Zdeno Chara, D
58. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers: Brian Leetch, D
59. SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles: Henri Richard, C
60. tony_d - Indianapolis Racers: Sergei Makarov, RW
61. chaosrevolver & Dreakmur - Montreal Shamrocks: Andy Bathgate, RW
62. ted1971 - As de Québec: Dit Clapper, D/RW
63. Hobnobs - Rögle BK: Bernie Geoffrion, RW
64. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks: Charlie Conacher, RW
65. Stoneberg - Halifax Citadels: Marcel Dionne, C
66. BillyShoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers: Borje Salming, D
67. markrander87 - Victoria Salsa: Martin Brodeur, G
68. Johnny Engine - Buchans Miners: Dickie Moore, LW
69. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Eskimos: Bill Quackenbush, D
70. bluesfan94 & Nalyd Psycho - Kansas City Scouts: Ted Kennedy, C
71. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils: Peter Forsberg, C
72. Jafar - Montreal Canadiens: Boris Mikhailov, RW
73. King Forsberg - Modo Hockey: Sidney Crosby, C
74. Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings: Sergei Fedorov, C
75. Velociraptor - Belfast Giants: Teemu Selanne, RW
76. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires: Mark Howe, D
77. Dwight - West Island Lions: Cy Denneny, LW
78. papershoes - Kenora Thistles: Sid Abel, C/LW
79. Modo - Eishockeyclub München e.V.: Brett Hull, RW
80. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers: Elmer Lach, C
81. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh AC: Valeri Vasiliev, D
82. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Hornets: Scott Niedermayer, D
83. LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs: Guy Lapointe, D
84. Hedberg & VanIslander - New York Rangers: Aurel Joliat, LW

Round 4:

85. Hedberg & VanIslander - New York Rangers: Rod Langway, D
86. LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs: Vladislav Tretiak, G
87. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Hornets: Serge Savard, D
88. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh AC: Max Bentley, C
89. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers: J.C. Tremblay, D
90. Modo - Eishockeyclub München e.V.: "Black" Jack Stewart, D
91. papershoes - Kenora Thistles: Jarome Iginla, RW
92. Dwight - West Island Lions: Eddie Gerard, D/LW
93. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires: Joe Malone, C/LW
94. Velociraptor - Belfast Giants: Doug Bentley, LW/C
95. Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings: Norm Ullman, C
96. King Forsberg - Modo Hockey: Anatoli Firsov, LW
97. Jafar - Montreal Canadiens: Frank Brimsek, G
98. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils: Toe Blake, LW
99. bluesfan94 & Nalyd Psycho - Kansas City Scouts: Pavel Bure, RW
100. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Eskimos: Cam Neely, RW
101. Johnny Engine - Buchans Miners: Doug Gilmour, C
102. markrander87 - Victoria Salsa: Alex Delvecchio, C/LW
103. BillyShoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
104. Stoneberg - Halifax Citadels
105. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
106. Hobnobs - Rögle BK
107. ted1971 - As de Québec
108. chaosrevolver & Dreakmur - Montreal Shamrocks
109. tony_d - Indianapolis Racers
110. SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles
111. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
112. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 5:

113. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
114. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
115. SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles
116. tony_d - Indianapolis Racers
117. chaosrevolver & Dreakmur - Montreal Shamrocks
118. ted1971 - As de Québec
119. Hobnobs - Rögle BK
120. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
121. Stoneberg - Halifax Citadels
122. BillyShoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
123. markrander87 - Victoria Salsa
124. Johnny Engine - Buchans Miners
125. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Eskimos
126. bluesfan94 & Nalyd Psycho - Kansas City Scouts
127. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
128. Jafar - Montreal Canadiens
129. King Forsberg - Modo Hockey
130. Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings
131. Velociraptor - Belfast Giants
132. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
133. Dwight - West Island Lions
134. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
135. Modo - Eishockeyclub München e.V.
136. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
137. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh AC
138. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Hornets
139. LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs
140. Hedberg & VanIslander - New York Rangers

Round 6:

141. Hedberg & VanIslander - New York Rangers
142. LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs
143. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Hornets
144. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh AC
145. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
146. Modo - Eishockeyclub München e.V.
147. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
148. Dwight - West Island Lions
149. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
150. Velociraptor - Belfast Giants
151. Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings
152. King Forsberg - Modo Hockey
153. Jafar - Montreal Canadiens
154. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
155. bluesfan94 & Nalyd Psycho - Kansas City Scouts
156. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Eskimos
157. Johnny Engine - Buchans Miners
158. markrander87 - Victoria Salsa
159. BillyShoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
160. Stoneberg - Halifax Citadels
161. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
162. Hobnobs - Rögle BK
163. ted1971 - As de Québec
164. chaosrevolver & Dreakmur - Montreal Shamrocks
165. tony_d - Indianapolis Racers
166. SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles
167. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
168. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

Round 7:

169. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers
170. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
171. SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles
172. tony_d - Indianapolis Racers
173. chaosrevolver & Dreakmur - Montreal Shamrocks
174. ted1971 - As de Québec
175. Hobnobs - Rögle BK
176. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
177. Stoneberg - Halifax Citadels
178. BillyShoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
179. markrander87 - Victoria Salsa
180. Johnny Engine - Buchans Miners
181. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Eskimos
182. bluesfan94 & Nalyd Psycho - Kansas City Scouts
183. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
184. Jafar - Montreal Canadiens
185. King Forsberg - Modo Hockey
186. Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings
187. Velociraptor - Belfast Giants
188. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
189. Dwight - West Island Lions
190. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
191. Modo - Eishockeyclub München e.V.
192. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
193. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh AC
194. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Hornets
195. LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs
196. Hedberg & VanIslander - New York Rangers

Round 8:

197. Hedberg & VanIslander - New York Rangers
198. LeafLander - Toronto Maple Leafs
199. 87and71 - Pittsburgh Hornets
200. Rob Scuderi - Pittsburgh AC
201. JFA87-66-99 - Pittsburgh Bankers
202. Modo - Eishockeyclub München e.V.
203. papershoes - Kenora Thistles
204. Dwight - West Island Lions
205. monster_bertuzzi - Vancouver Millionaires
206. Velociraptor - Belfast Giants
207. Reds4Life - Detroit Red Wings
208. King Forsberg - Modo Hockey
209. Jafar - Montreal Canadiens
210. TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils
211. bluesfan94 & Nalyd Psycho - Kansas City Scouts
212. ResilientBeast - Edmonton Eskimos
213. Johnny Engine - Buchans Miners
214. markrander87 - Victoria Salsa
215. BillyShoe1721 - Philadelphia Flyers
216. Stoneberg - Halifax Citadels
217. Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks
218. Hobnobs - Rögle BK
219. ted1971 - As de Québec
220. chaosrevolver & Dreakmur - Montreal Shamrocks
221. tony_d - Indianapolis Racers
222. SchultzSquared - Salt Lake Golden Eagles
223. MadArcand - Hartford Whalers
224. Brave Canadian - Guelph Platers

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[Sturminator]

A few administrative bits:

- the draft will officially start in 48 hours - that is, at 03:00 Wednesday morning, Eastern Standard Time.

- teams at the top of the draft may begin selecting immediately (this means you're up, BC).

- Reds4Life: if you have posted a team name, I haven't seen it. Please PM me, and I will add your team name in the thread.

Thanks, and good luck everybody.

 

[BenchBrawl]

 

[Sturminator]

Oh, I don't believe we had a clear consensus on how to proceed with the playoffs at 28 teams, so this is what I'm going with for now:

All Teams make the playoffs. The conferences will be divided into two divisions of 7, with the winner of each division getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs. The first round of the playoffs will feature three intra-divisional matchups in each division, after which the remaining 8 teams in each conference will be re-seeded based on regular season record, and matched according to seed: 1 vs. 8, 2 vs. 7, etc.

If anyone has objections or suggestions with regards to playoff format, now is the time.

 

[King Forsberg]

Thanks again for putting in so much work on this Sturm even though you're not participating. It is greatly appreciated.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I'm actually curious about who BC is going to pick at 1st overall.

 

[VanIslander]

I'm 99% sure Reds4Life will manage the Detroit Red Wings once again!

 

[VanIslander]

duh...

 

[BenchBrawl]

4 divisions of 8 teams each with 1st vs. 8th, 2nd vs. 7th, etc. THAT is how a 28-team playoff ideally is run!

4 x 8 = 32 , not 28.

 

[BraveCanadian]

I'm actually curious about who BC is going to pick at 1st overall.

I'd love to buck the trend but the relative value of defensemen around here makes it a no-brainer unfortunately:

Bobby Orr

 

[MadArcand]

The Whalers select a true biker legend, Wayne Gretzky:

 

[VanIslander]

Bobby Orr

Too bad he only had 8-9 truly great seasons and 2-3 top-level playoffs. His 6-year peak is unbelieveable. If he had less injury problems he would not be "arguably" the greatest player ever but in fact undoubtably would have been. But, then again, I guess Gretz's prime was pretty otherworldly as well, with surprising career length effectiveness as a passer.

I'd love to buck the trend but the relative value of defensemen around here makes it a no-brainer unfortunately

Yeah, even if you would discount his career length and put him 3rd all time, what he brings to a tream when healthy from the blueline is too valuable to pass up. Gretzky plays center, easily the DEEPEST position in this draft, bar none (er,... other than maybe coach).

That said, in the nearly ten years I've been doing ATDs on HfBoards, Orr has never won the ATD. Perhaps the 16th time is the charm?

 

[BraveCanadian]

Too bad he only had 8-9 truly great seasons and 2-3 top-level playoffs. His 6-year peak is unbelieveable. If he had less injury problems he would not be "arguably" the greatest player ever but in fact undoubtably would have been.

There is a good chance you're right. If he had kept up playing even close to as well in his 30s he would have filled the trophy case.

The good news for me is that he didn't miss many games in seasons he did play. I usually tend to shy away from injury prone players that miss a bunch of games at random.

But, then again, I guess Gretz's prime was pretty otherworldly as well, with surprising career length effectiveness as a passer.

True and as always the best argument for Gretzky is that he did it. No what ifs or maybes.

Gretzky plays center, easily the DEEPEST position in this draft, bar none (er,... other than maybe coach).

Yup. He is the best one but there are more good ones out there.

That said, in the nearly ten years I've been doing ATDs on HfBoards, Orr has never won the ATD. Perhaps the 16th time is the charm?

I volunteer to right this wrong.

 

[Hawkey Town 18]

Note: Even though the draft clock has not officially started GMs are still required to PM the next guy up after they pick


If for some reason you cannot send a PM please let everyone know with a post in the draft thread (this should not be a a regular thing but rather a special exception)

 

[VanIslander]

And: dropping two names and one pic is a bad precedent to set for level of info provided with each pick.

Update, pimp-up or at least make specific reference to bios.... to help raise rather than lower the bar set by those who have gone before ya! (though a young Gretz on a bike is news to me! and the sole highlight of the draft so far)

 

[BraveCanadian]

And: dropping two names and one pic is a bad precedent to set for level of info provided with each pick.

Update, pimp-up or at least make specific reference to bios.... to help raise rather than lower the bar set by those who have gone before ya! (though a young Gretz on a bike is news to me! and the sole highlight of the draft so far)

I was eating my breakfast and getting to work.

 

[VanIslander]

I was eating my breakfast and getting to work.

More coming then,... cool.

 

[MadArcand]

I was eating my breakfast and getting to work.

I am at work.

Though TBH bioing Gretzky (or Orr) kinda seems excessive/unnecessary.

 

[VanIslander]

I am at work.

Though TBH bioing Gretzky (or Orr) kinda seems excessive/unnecessary.

Yeah, let's name drop the first two hundred names. (Don't bore us with details. We know every interesting aspect of their careers, aside from the bikes they rode).... TBH...

 

[ResilientBeast]

Yeah, let's name drop the first two hundred names. (Don't bore us with details. We know every interesting aspect of their careers, aside from the bikes they rode).... TBH...

Wow

 

[Dwight]

Yeah, let's name drop the first two hundred names. (Don't bore us with details. We know every interesting aspect of their careers, aside from the bikes they rode).... TBH...

Bios are great, I agree, but by no means are they (or have they ever been) mandatory. I have no problems doing research and finding quotes during assassinations/playoffs, but sometimes, I'm on my phone and all I really have time to do is to drop a name.

 

[tony d]

I enjoy doing bios as well but dont think they should be mandatory. Stats and a pic should always be included with your pick but not a full out bio. Ill do a bio of my top 12 forwards top 6 defensemen 2 goalies and coach but not my bench guys. Also will volunteer my services now to any gm who wont be around and would like to leave a list. Im around most of the day and dont mind helping anyone out if theyre going to be gone. Anyway rearing to pick now. Pretty sure of who ill pick at #4.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I added the other rules we agreed to in the planning thread to the OP.

Sturm had added this line "GMs who vote in every round of the playoffs will get preference of their draft positions in the following draft." Go to the planning thread if you wish to discuss whether we are doing this again.

7). All Teams make the playoffs. The conferences will be divided into two divisions of 7, with the winner of each division getting a 1st round bye in the playoffs. The first round of the playoffs will feature three intra-divisional matchups in each division, after which the remaining 8 teams in each conference will be re-seeded based on regular season record, and matched according to seed: 1 vs. 8, 2 vs. 7, etc.

I just read this again - is this cross-divisional playoffs? DO NOT WANT. I thought that going back to divisional playoffs like we used to do was one of the first decisions we made.

 

[Sturminator]

I just read this again - is this cross-divisional playoffs? DO NOT WANT. I thought that going back to divisional playoffs like we used to do was one of the first decisions we made.

Was it? My plan is not actually to have set cross-divisional playoffs, but simply re-seeding after the opening round, which doesn't automatically mean that teams will play cross-divisional opponents. I think this method is the best way to prevent some great teams from going out too early. Conference-wide seeding of eight teams also feels more natural to me, as that is the way the real NHL does it. But if the group decided that we want to go back to divisional playoffs, I'm fine with that, too.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Ole Schultz was on for a while and is gone

Must be torn between 2 fellas.