At What Level Should The Axe Fall?
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GMofOilers
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Mact came in last year saying how impatient he is, made some moves said he was going to make bold moves, and claimed we should be in the running for the playoffs. Epic fail.
This year said we would be a much improved team and so far last in the west lol
This year said we would be a much improved team and so far last in the west lol
Mc5RingsAndABeer
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Lowe, MacT, Chabot, scouting, anyone that has been around since 2007 onwards
Keep Eakins for now
I can't see how anyone can say to axe Eakins without axing MacT. Choosing a coach is one of the duties of a GM.
Keep Eakins for now
I can't see how anyone can say to axe Eakins without axing MacT. Choosing a coach is one of the duties of a GM.
oXo Cube
Power Play Merchant
OilerTyler
Disgruntled
Fire everyone from the top down.
There's no point in firing somebody if you are going to let the loser one rung above them on the ladder hire the replacement.
There's no point in firing somebody if you are going to let the loser one rung above them on the ladder hire the replacement.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
Sometimes I come up with strange idea's, so bare with me.
Seems to me that MacT pretty much set Eakins up for a firing. As MacT went along and added some really decent players, he didn't do quite enough.
At least not enough for Eakins to work with properly (at his level of coaching).
Add some big forwards and a couple of second tier (at lest at this point) goalies. Didn't add a 2nd line C and basically has 2 NHL caliber center men.
Add some better but not so great defensemen to the team.
An experienced coach (Ramsay) would probably do well with the current line up.
Eakins, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have much of a clue (although he is getting better).
Seems to me that Eakins may have dug his own grave getting Ramsay in here.
Sorry it doesn't answer the thread question. Just my thoughts on the matter.
Seems to me that MacT pretty much set Eakins up for a firing. As MacT went along and added some really decent players, he didn't do quite enough.
At least not enough for Eakins to work with properly (at his level of coaching).
Add some big forwards and a couple of second tier (at lest at this point) goalies. Didn't add a 2nd line C and basically has 2 NHL caliber center men.
Add some better but not so great defensemen to the team.
An experienced coach (Ramsay) would probably do well with the current line up.
Eakins, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have much of a clue (although he is getting better).
Seems to me that Eakins may have dug his own grave getting Ramsay in here.
Sorry it doesn't answer the thread question. Just my thoughts on the matter.
McShogun99
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From Kevin Lowe to Joey Moss. A complete organization purge. Let the new management do whatever they want with the players.
Fixed to Ruin
Come wit it now!
All of them.
No former Oilers.
No rookies.
(Notice these go hand in hand)
Only experienced legitimate hockey men allowed.
Basically what Calgary did. Burke, Treliving, Hartley.
No former Oilers.
No rookies.
(Notice these go hand in hand)
Only experienced legitimate hockey men allowed.
Basically what Calgary did. Burke, Treliving, Hartley.
rboomercat90
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My crazy idea is that Mactavish is every bit as lost as Eakins is. My guess is he's terrified that the next coach he hires won't have any more success with this team than his first one has and is going to put it off for as long as he can hoping they get lucky somehow.
The axe has to fall on Lowe and keep chopping until they're all gone. It's way past the time for that. We've been talking about all the reasons for years.
The Nuge
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Eakins and Lowe. MacT has done more to try and make this team competitive than anyone's done in decades. Let him and Howson have some more time to try and turn it around. If they can't, axe them as well
Axe everyone except for MacT, and keep him on a short leash a la Calgary with Feaster. If he stumbles (a la Calgary, with Feaster), send him packing too.
MacT has made some moves, and some have panned out but he started with a terrible team so it's not like he's sent it into a tailspin. #2Cs don't magically appear and we don't have as many quality assets to move as we think, not without leaving a gaping hole. Maybe he should have kept Gagner, maybe not... but I want to give him one more offseason before canning him. Everyone else can go ASAP.
MacT has made some moves, and some have panned out but he started with a terrible team so it's not like he's sent it into a tailspin. #2Cs don't magically appear and we don't have as many quality assets to move as we think, not without leaving a gaping hole. Maybe he should have kept Gagner, maybe not... but I want to give him one more offseason before canning him. Everyone else can go ASAP.
oobga
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Lowe for sure for saying this in April 2013: "The Edmonton Oilers are not where they should be right now and that is unacceptable. We need to get better immediately. That starts today."
And then being super tame because his buddy MacT is GM now before this season:
“We’re in a tough conference, no question; not using that as an excuse. But we should be better than a bunch of teams in our conference and we should be in a pack with a number of teams that are shooting for that seven/eight spot.”
He looks like a fool today on both accounts. He has no clue what he's doing and no vision at all for how to change this team into a winner. He's useless to anyone except for his friends that couldn't get jobs in any respectable NHL organization and continues to drag the Oilers down with bad hires and protecting people that should be fired.
And then being super tame because his buddy MacT is GM now before this season:
“We’re in a tough conference, no question; not using that as an excuse. But we should be better than a bunch of teams in our conference and we should be in a pack with a number of teams that are shooting for that seven/eight spot.”
He looks like a fool today on both accounts. He has no clue what he's doing and no vision at all for how to change this team into a winner. He's useless to anyone except for his friends that couldn't get jobs in any respectable NHL organization and continues to drag the Oilers down with bad hires and protecting people that should be fired.
Sheikyerbouti
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They have literally replaced the entire organization but the people running it and some scouts
New POHO
New GM
New Scouting Director
The Oilers are like the government; they just keep creating more positions, but never get rid of the bosses that **** it all up
New POHO
New GM
New Scouting Director
The Oilers are like the government; they just keep creating more positions, but never get rid of the bosses that **** it all up
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His fandom is damaging the team.
Unfortunately with the new arena and real estate deals in place he won't be leaving anytime soon.
nexttothemoon
and again...
Every head must roll... every single one in management... to the scouting department... to coaching.
Scorched earth and blood in the streets.
Start fresh and let all new blood ascertain what the issues are with this roster and go from there.
In decades? Do you know what that word means. MacT has been in charge for two years and has just seen the team regress. In large part because of the coach he hired prior to interviewing anyone else for the head coach position. This team has gotten substantially worse under MacT. Not better. MacT doesn't just get a mulligan here. He needs to be out the door with Eakins, Lowe and Howson.
Decades ago the Oilers were the class of the NHL. Hell 10 years ago they were a team that made the playoffs on a semi consistent basis.
Decades....
Fire Lowe/Mac T/Eakins/entire scouting staff.
Promote Bob Nicholson as president of hockey ops, at least in the interim.
Hire a seasoned, experienced GM.
Hire Terry Murray as coach.
Gretzky can be an ambassador for the franchise and can go represent the Oilers at the 2015 NHL Draft. I'd keep him around to maybe have a chat with Hall and co. at year end because their patience is probably going to be wearing thin. That's it.
Promote Bob Nicholson as president of hockey ops, at least in the interim.
Hire a seasoned, experienced GM.
Hire Terry Murray as coach.
Gretzky can be an ambassador for the franchise and can go represent the Oilers at the 2015 NHL Draft. I'd keep him around to maybe have a chat with Hall and co. at year end because their patience is probably going to be wearing thin. That's it.
