Post-Game Talk: At least they tried.

Grate n Colorful Oz

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Looks to me like how I used to react to my ligament giving out all the time. I could walk fine and wore a brace playing sports for years.

My right elbow has been like that since my mid-30's. Have to wear a brace to play basketball or else my elbow gives out when I throw. Getting old sucks, but on the bright side, I'm now an ambi shooter. I can lay-up and shoot from both hands.
 

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"Pour lui, cette défaite crève-cœur fait partie du processus de développement de ses jeunes joueurs."... Except that it was the Edmundson's, the Mathesons, the Armias that did and continue to suck the most. And the goalies. His "processus de developpment" keeps Guhle on the bench on PP and in key game siturations, his young yet best defenseman. So spare us, Marty.
 
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"Pour lui, cette défaite crève-cœur fait partie du processus de développement de ses jeunes joueurs."... Except that it was the Edmundson's, the Mathesons, the Armias that did and continue to suck the most. And the goalies. His "processus de developpment" keeps Guhle on the bench on PP and in key game siturations, he young yes best defenseman. So spare us, Marty.

Marty has bosses. According to @dinodebino, rumors around the Habs is that management wants to pull the reigns a bit to make sure we get a good draft pick. Ok, I extrapolated a bit. What Dino said is that management thought thry were winning a bit too much a bit too fast, or something like that.
 
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Win-now mode is way more fun -- every game is competitive and every loss is devastating.

This is low-stakes pond hockey with the benefit of watching some young players do well out there (Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle, Xekhaj) and give hope for the future. It's fun because losses don't matter. In video game terms it's sandbox mode. Easy mode. Tutorial mode.
It's all the opposite of the last 10 years when Habs have no scorer. It was only dull conservative defensive hockey, a poor replica of the Lemaire's years, without the Cups of '86 and '93. But it was the years of very sound defensive centers like Carbonneau, Plekanec and Danault. Now we are very far from having a center in that kind. We are in a tanking mode anyway so the next defensive genius center can wait two years. But Habs will need that center and a goalie in two years.

At least today we lose, we tank and we have something interresting to watch. How can we ask more?. Maybe lose more to tank more.
 

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It's all the opposite of the last 10 years when Habs have no scorer. It was only dull conservative defensive hockey, a poor replica of the Lemaire's years, without the Cups of '86 and '93. But it was the years of very sound defensive centers like Carbonneau, Plekanec and Danault. Now we are very far from having a center in that kind. We are in a tanking mode anyway so the next defensive genius center can wait two years. But Habs will need that center and a goalie in two years.

At least today we lose, we tank and we have something interresting to watch. How can we ask more?. Maybe lose mose to tank more.
I'm not complaining. It's a bitter pill to have to follow 164 games worth of losing seasons but it's been as entertaining as one could have hoped.

I'm with you on the defensive garbage hockey though. The Bergevin years were brutal -- almost cruel in how unimpressive and boring that hockey was.
 

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looks like it went downhill when Mohanan got injured.
I hope he's not seriously injured. We count on him to land a second 1rst round draft. I was 50/50 thinking we sign him or we trade him. I think he can be too injury prone so better trade him while his value is high. But I like the player and the person, I'll be a bit sad when he will leave us.
 

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"Pour lui, cette défaite crève-cœur fait partie du processus de développement de ses jeunes joueurs."... Except that it was the Edmundson's, the Mathesons, the Armias that did and continue to suck the most. And the goalies. His "processus de developpment" keeps Guhle on the bench on PP and in key game siturations, he young yes best defenseman. So spare us, Marty.
sorry but Harris has been horrendous for a while now, and Wifi is making 2-3 ultra boneheaded plays per game.

Van got back in the game last night due to two foolish icings by The Undertaker - complete unforced errors

I thought Armia had a good game, he’s starting to pick it up and using his size more effectively.

Dach also had a very poor game, he shriveled up as the intensity & physicality picked up last night - played scared had no interest in engaging
 

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I'm not complaining. It's a bitter pill to have to follow 164 games worth of losing seasons but it's been as entertaining as one could have hoped.

I'm with you on the defensive garbage hockey though. The Bergevin years were brutal -- almost cruel in how unimpressive and boring that hockey was.
I made a mistake in my previous post, it was 20 years of boring hockey. The Gainey years were boring too. Not as brutal as the Bergevin years but how many years we missed the PO? How many years we didn't have any player in the top 50? Gainey had Jarvis as the farm team coach and assistant behind the bench. How Jarvis can learn forwards to be creative scorers and not only defensive specialists? The boring hockey started when Leclair, Turgeon and Damphousse were traded. And also when Roy and Keane were traded. Add that Craig Conroy was traded in the Turgeon trade. And Desjardin was traded in the Leclair trade. That was all Houle work. How to kill a team for 25 years.

It took a new owner (Gilette) and a marketting genious (Boivin) to save that franchise. Koivu, Zednik, Souray, Theodore and Markov gave this team something to watch, at least.
 
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I made a mistake in my previous post, it was 20 years of borting hockey. The Gainey years were boring too. Not as brutal as the Bergevin years but how many years we missed the PO? How many years we didn't have any player in the top 50? Gainey had Jarvis as the farm team coach and assistant behind the bench. How Jarvis can learn forwards to be creative scorers and not only defensive specialists? The boring hockey started when Leclair, Turgeon and Damphousse were traded. And also when Roy and Keane were traded. Add that Craig Conroy was traded in the Turgeon trade. And Desjardin was traded in the Leclair trade. That was all Houle work. How to kill a team for 25 years.

It took a new owner (Gilette) and a marketting genious (Boivin) to save that franchise. Koivu, Zednik, Souray, Theodore and Markov gave this team something to watch, at least.
Don Lever was the AHL coach in Hamilton, Jarvis only coached there during the lockout season
 

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I made a mistake in my previous post, it was 20 years of borting hockey. The Gainey years were boring too. Not as brutal as the Bergevin years but how many years we missed the PO? How many years we didn't have any player in the top 50? Gainey had Jarvis as the farm team coach and assistant behind the bench. How Jarvis can learn forwards to be creative scorers and not only defensive specialists? The boring hockey started when Leclair, Turgeon and Damphousse were traded. And also when Roy and Keane were traded. Add that Craig Conroy was traded in the Turgeon trade. And Desjardin was traded in the Leclair trade. That was all Houle work. How to kill a team for 25 years.

It took a new owner (Gilette) and a marketting genious (Boivin) to save that franchise. Koivu, Zednik, Souray, Theodore and Markov gave this team something to watch, at least.

Gainey only missed one year out of 6, by a very thin margin in 2006. His 4th year team (07-08) was a top 5 offense in the league. Kovalev finished in the top 15.
 
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Don Lever was the AHL coach in Hamilton, Jarvis only coached there during the lockout season
And Don Lever was what kind of coach? Creative offensive coach or boring defensive coach?

Gezz I make so much keyboard mistakes, I created a new word : borting. I have to reduce the size of my fingers.
 

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Marty has bosses. According to @dinodebino, rumors around the Habs is that management wants to pull the reigns a bit to make sure we get a good draft pick. Ok, I extrapolated a bit. What Dino said is that management thought thry were winning a bit too much a bit too fast, or something like that.
Ducharme was doing a perfect job at that... although seems like Marty is headed that way too. Don't think there is a need to purposely hold back. I am still not over last night. Still totally pissed. I guess more Matheson and Harris and less Guhle going forward. Sigh.
 
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Ducharme was doing a perfect job at that... although seems like Marty is headed that way too. Don't think there is a need to purposely hold back. I am still not over last night. Still totally pissed. I guess more Matheson and Harris and less Guhle going forward. Sigh.
Ducharme was actively f***ing over Caufield though.
 
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The Real Timo

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We could really use Bedard/Carlsson/Fantelli/Mishkov. Don't be depressed!
We are not going to get any of them. Habs once again will finish in some middle ground position that will provide yet another mediocre first round pick. Life is not THAT nice.

Ducharme was actively f***ing over Caufield though.
He probably was... but the end result is about the same... team still sucks. Nevermind me... I am just super frustrated and pissed off after last night. No amount of logical arguments going to change that.
 

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We are not going to get any of them. Habs once again will finish in some middle ground position that will provide yet another mediocre first round pick. Life is not THAT nice.


Let's see how we do with Monahan out.

His loss may have a pretty big impact on the team. Plus Savard is out. The rookies are showing some fatigue and the goalies are no longer standing on their heads. I'm hopeful for this next stretch without Monahan. Let's see...
 

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It really showed last night. They got too comfortable and forgot to clear the crease. Lucky for them the Canucks stopped trying to generate offense the moment they got the lead. Hope they learned something.
If we didnt blow a 4-0 lead I wouldnt be as salty about the loss today. Overall it was a good learning experience in that they dominated the game, then collasped, then came back late before proceeding to blow it late.

Overall, thats a crap load of experiences from one game :laugh:
 

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