Artemii Panarin

[Kshahdoo]

Could he play in NHL, I wonder.

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[SoundAndFury]

He would have to bulk up big time.

 

[m4tt145]

He looked great from the few games I saw with him on the NT. I was very impressed. He certainly got the skills, but as SoundAndFury wrote, he needs to bulk up.

 

[cska78]

He looked great from the few games I saw with him on the NT. I was very impressed. He certainly got the skills, but as SoundAndFury wrote, he needs to bulk up.

and loose his speed and agility....let's just agree, that not everybody is cut out to play this style of hockey

 

[Atas2000]

This coming season will show.

 

[malkinfan]

Has one of the best skill sets in the league. I expect him to be the points leader for SKA this year.

 

[Acallabeth]

I actually think he could play in the NHL, but he'd need a very patient management that could wait and guide him while he'd be adapting to the NHL. And also a good strength coach who could help him improve his lower body and core strength without losing agility.
Panarin, while slim, isn't tiny as well - 5'11, ~170 lbs.

 

[SoundAndFury]

and loose his speed and agility....let's just agree, that not everybody is cut out to play this style of hockey

..if he would be doing it wrong. Someone like Zuccarello has actually become much faster in NA. But overall, keeping in mind how lanky for a professional hockey player Panarin is, I doubt he could successfully adapt his body.

I think Patrick Kane should be his role model since they are pretty similar in stature and Kaner is just 5 kg heavier.

Has one of the best skill sets in the league. I expect him to be the points leader for SKA this year.

Well, he was last year so it wouldn't be too surprising if he did it again. However, looking at that roster, I would still be surprised. Someone like Thoresen or Kovy doesn't miss 15 games every year.

 

[obskyr]

Well, he was last year so it wouldn't be too surprising if he did it again. However, looking at that roster, I would still be surprised. Someone like Thoresen or Kovy doesn't miss 15 games every year.

I don't really expect him to repeat last year's success. He got a huge chunk of those points getting more ice time at the games with low quality competition, he was at his best during the "Far Eastern trip" in particular, when the "bigger guns" were kinda resting. Next year will be different, new coach, new schedule, more games. He certainly is going to be a stable first liner in the future, but with the current over the top stacked roster that's unlikely.

 

[Yakushev72]

I actually think he could play in the NHL, but he'd need a very patient management that could wait and guide him while he'd be adapting to the NHL. And also a good strength coach who could help him improve his lower body and core strength without losing agility.
Panarin, while slim, isn't tiny as well - 5'11, ~170 lbs.

He certainly doesn't play as if he is small. He always seems to play the best when the team really needs the best. I always remember the World Junior Gold Medal game in 2011 when Russia had a 3-goal deficit to Canada starting the 3rd period, and Panarin scored 2 of the 5 goals in the 3rd period to win the game. He just seems to excel in every game that he plays.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Scored 3 goals in 2 games for Russian NT. Hope he'll get an invitation to NHL. Especially if new clubs are added.

 

[mark24]

I actually think he could play in the NHL, but he'd need a very patient management that could wait and guide him while he'd be adapting to the NHL. And also a good strength coach who could help him improve his lower body and core strength without losing agility.
Panarin, while slim, isn't tiny as well - 5'11, ~170 lbs.

5'11" an only 170 lbs. Is absolutely tiny by NHL standards. Needs about 20 lbs. More On that frame.

 

[Kshahdoo]

5'11" an only 170 lbs. Is absolutely tiny by NHL standards. Needs about 20 lbs. More On that frame.

Gaudreau is 5'9, 150. He's already 3+9 after 16 gp.

 

[mark24]

Gaudreau is 5'9, 150. He's already 3+9 after 16 gp.

Of course u can find a smaller player, there are several of them, but with the much more physical game in the NHL the small guys get beat down rather quickly and more and more so as the season progresses . There are a few exceptions, but any way u look at it 170 lbs. is tiny in the NHL.

 

[Gerin]

A year or even less in the AHL to get use NA hockey and he'd be fine of course adding 10-15 would help and if he does it right he should be actually faster with lower body strength it's just finding the right team who he fits with

 

[habsrule4eva3089]

Of course he can play in the NHL, he's got the wheels, the creativity in open ice and vision as well to be effective in a top 9 position. Obviously he would be hard pressed to win lots of battles against stronger opposition below the hashmarks due to his size but players of his size in the NHL are putting up points from 30-60 range and even more and I can see him starting like that at least. And with his one timer he could also put up points on the powerplay.

Someone posted the comparison to Johnny Hockey, he's not as slippery as Johnny Hockey, who was blessed with a unique talent to just slide/spin and avoid any possible contact and stride away from nearly anyone with even more speed off a pivot, Panarin has a good bit of the slipperiness, but not to that ridiculous extent.

I can see him putting up points ala Tyler Ennis if I had to put a points comparable after he gets settled in the league.

 

[hockeey]

How does panarin compare to moses or sekac? Any idea on how likely he is to translate his game to the NHL? Using NHLe, his point totals translated to NHL points is ~79 which is obviously too high but could he be a ~70 point guy?

 

[No1Joker]

A bar better than both. Panarin is elite player offensively on every aspect of the game.

 

[Atas2000]

How does panarin compare to moses or sekac? Any idea on how likely he is to translate his game to the NHL? Using NHLe, his point totals translated to NHL points is ~79 which is obviously too high but could he be a ~70 point guy?

Sekac is a big guy with way less skill. Moses has the benefit of being an American. He learned to play on the small rink. He shouldn't have any transition troubles. Skill wise he is no Panarin either.

I still wouldn't go out and say Panarin is even a 60pt player in the NHL for sure. Time will tell if he really decides to give it a try.

 

[Kshahdoo]

How does panarin compare to moses or sekac? Any idea on how likely he is to translate his game to the NHL? Using NHLe, his point totals translated to NHL points is ~79 which is obviously too high but could he be a ~70 point guy?

I'd say Panarin in the KHL isn't just Panarin by himself. It's more the whole line Panarin - Shipachyov - Dadonov. They all are skillful players who have insane chemistry, and it plays a big enough role in his success.

Now, in the NHL his situation can turn out to be quite different. He can get to a die hard Canadian (or NA) style team where they force him to play the hockey he isn't good in. On the other hand, say, on Pens playing with Malkin or Crosby he can score a lot.

 

[malkinfan]

I'd say Panarin in the KHL isn't just Panarin by himself. It's more the whole line Panarin - Shipachyov - Dadonov. They all are skillful players who have insane chemistry, and it plays a big enough role in his success.

Now, in the NHL his situation can turn out to be quite different. He can get to a die hard Canadian (or NA) style team where they force him to play the hockey he isn't good in. On the other hand, say, on Pens playing with Malkin or Crosby he can score a lot.

Id agree with this, btw most of that lines points comes from the PP. IMO Shipachyov is the best of the 3. Dadonov could probably make a good top 6 NHL player at this point in his carear as well. Just so happens, Panarin's agent opened his mouth about the NHL so there is so much buzz around him. I would bet that most SKA players receive some sort of NHL offers in the summer whether it be 1 or 2-way deals, we will likely never hear about it.

 

[hockeey]

Id agree with this, btw most of that lines points comes from the PP. IMO Shipachyov is the best of the 3. Dadonov could probably make a good top 6 NHL player at this point in his carear as well. Just so happens, Panarin's agent opened his mouth about the NHL so there is so much buzz around him. I would bet that most SKA players receive some sort of NHL offers in the summer whether it be 1 or 2-way deals, we will likely never hear about it.

I do think NHL teams could be more interested in Panarin though because he is still pretty young and will have more time to try to translate his game to the NHL

 

[Chileiceman]

I see a lot of similarities between him and Johnny Gaudreau. I firmly believe he could be a good NHL'er. He'll only be 24 next season so he has that going for him as well.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Id agree with this, btw most of that lines points comes from the PP. IMO Shipachyov is the best of the 3. Dadonov could probably make a good top 6 NHL player at this point in his carear as well. Just so happens, Panarin's agent opened his mouth about the NHL so there is so much buzz around him. I would bet that most SKA players receive some sort of NHL offers in the summer whether it be 1 or 2-way deals, we will likely never hear about it.

Panarin can be signed to 2 years ELC, and it's the main reason he's so popular amongst NHL GMs... of course, other than his skill.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Panarin isn't that small actually.